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26Th Feb Was A Test Run By IAF To Check The Fight In The Paf:---

You are 100% right... Our response were not good, we should destroy that BHQ and all the targets which intentionally missed... They were surprised the way we replied them, they never expected that pak will simply warn us & they dont have guts to bomb our military targets.. So they played kashmir card.. They are still 100% sure that pak mili will never attack india for the sack of Kashmir... Pak mili is now not mili but an industry, if we had killed there 2k troops in 27 feb bombing they would not even think about merger of Kashmir with india...
Situation is still in our favor, we can only need to hit back them hard at one area of our choosing, we should use everything what we have, capture Kargil again.. Put there all IAF on the mercy of AMRAAMS, while keep pounding them at IB & LOC. Sink dozens of there Ships if u want world to solve kashmir matter once for all
and what would that achive other then already breathing down on our necks UNSC and FATF both jump the gun. when hitler occupied poland no one gives fling fcuk but when they attack france all hell broke loose.
 
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The indians got their answers loud and clear---Paf does not have the ballz to take out what was offered on a platter---.

Please do not disrespect the guys who risk everything, you say PAF did not have the ballz, i say they had exactly the ballz to carry out what was tasked to them. PAF wasnt the only one in decision making, it was the PM, his cabinet, the army chief, all involved in the process of decision making and agreed towards a calculated response to IAF aggression. When PAF and IAF met, IAF got its *** handed over to it. As for Su-30s not being able to lock on, i suggest you read on the official statements by the experts worldwide. Even though they had the radar coverage, the R-77 lacked the range to target PAF jets while PAF equipped with AMRAAMs was able to lock on and score a hit.
Here:
"What troubles the Indian Air Force was that Pakistan was able to destroy an Indian jet from long range. “Among the Indian Air Force's fighters which were targeted were two Sukhoi-30s which managed to evade the AMRAAMs which were fired at close to their maximum range of 100 kilometers [62 miles],” according to NDTV. “Fully defensive and desperate to escape the incoming AMRAAMs, the IAF Sukhoi-30s escaped being shot down but were unable to retaliate the F-16s because they were out of position and their own missiles, the Russian R-77s, did not have the range to realistically engage the Pakistani fighters. IAF sources told NDTV that the Russian missiles do not match its advertised range and cannot engage targets which are more than 80 kilometers [50 miles] away.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/why-india-doesn’t-its-russian-made-missiles-63931

This is the reality. If they could they would had done it and shove it right to our faces. There are no two ways about it. May i suggest you to have a grip. You need to be objective in your criticism.
 
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Hi,

The test run of the Thaad anti missile defense system in israel and then installation of the system right after 27th feb in israel was no coincidence---. There was a reason behind it---. What retaliation were the americans fearing---and where would that retaliation be coming from---.
That might be true or not but what I disagree is that you're fixing responsibility on PAF which I find unfair.
 
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Hi

The 26th was the test run by india to see the reaction of the Paf---.

Why do you think they planted that French Scorpene submarine in pakistani waters---why did they have their aircraft carrier planted in pakistani waters---.

Why did they have so many SU30---in the air and none fired a missile at Paf aircraft---.

It was all a pre-planned test run by the indians to see pakistani air force reaction---how far the Paf will go---.

That what that fake smart bomb strike by the iaf aircraft was on trees---.

It was all staged as a precursor for the main act to follow on a different date---.

The indians got their answers loud and clear---Paf does not have the ballz to take out what was offered on a platter---.

Paf backed out to take out all that were put right in front of them---.

That was the answer India wanted to know---how far they would go---.

If the Paf had taken all that was presented---india would not have had the ballz to do what it did with kashmir---.

They were just testing the level of craziness in the Paf---which just deflated like a balloon that had sprung a leak---.

@Khafee @Irfan Baloch @Mangus Ortus Novem
Now to look at it from a different perspective, PAF did the smart thing and NEVER went all out to expose all its strengths and weaknesses. They understood it was a "test run" and thus decided not to show their cards. How about that??
 
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Hi

The 26th was the test run by india to see the reaction of the Paf---.

Why do you think they planted that French Scorpene submarine in pakistani waters---why did they have their aircraft carrier planted in pakistani waters---.

Why did they have so many SU30---in the air and none fired a missile at Paf aircraft---.

It was all a pre-planned test run by the indians to see pakistani air force reaction---how far the Paf will go---.

That what that fake smart bomb strike by the iaf aircraft was on trees---.

It was all staged as a precursor for the main act to follow on a different date---.

The indians got their answers loud and clear---Paf does not have the ballz to take out what was offered on a platter---.

Paf backed out to take out all that were put right in front of them---.

That was the answer India wanted to know---how far they would go---.

If the Paf had taken all that was presented---india would not have had the ballz to do what it did with kashmir---.

They were just testing the level of craziness in the Paf---which just deflated like a balloon that had sprung a leak---.

@Khafee @Irfan Baloch @Mangus Ortus Novem


So in short you are saying that IAF intentionally gave us their aircraft to shot down, of course they wanted to find out how many of their aircrafts can PAF shoot down.
I am speechless at your deduction skills.
 
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Hi

The 26th was the test run by india to see the reaction of the Paf---.

Why do you think they planted that French Scorpene submarine in pakistani waters---why did they have their aircraft carrier planted in pakistani waters---.

Why did they have so many SU30---in the air and none fired a missile at Paf aircraft---.

It was all a pre-planned test run by the indians to see pakistani air force reaction---how far the Paf will go---.

That what that fake smart bomb strike by the iaf aircraft was on trees---.

It was all staged as a precursor for the main act to follow on a different date---.

The indians got their answers loud and clear---Paf does not have the ballz to take out what was offered on a platter---.

Paf backed out to take out all that were put right in front of them---.

That was the answer India wanted to know---how far they would go---.

If the Paf had taken all that was presented---india would not have had the ballz to do what it did with kashmir---.

They were just testing the level of craziness in the Paf---which just deflated like a balloon that had sprung a leak---.

@Khafee @Irfan Baloch @Mangus Ortus Novem
Scorpene and other nuclear sub was therr to look out for Pakistani sub which suddenly disappeared. You can check articles where Indians themselves admitted
 
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Hi,

The test run of the Thaad anti missile defense system in israel and then installation of the system right after 27th feb in israel was no coincidence---. There was a reason behind it---. What retaliation were the americans fearing---and where would that retaliation be coming from---.

Any deduction/analysis needs to be based on sound reasoning. Thaad deployment in Israel had more to do with Iran situation then Pak-Ind situation.
Even if I accept that what you are saying holds some water then this post of yours contradicts your first post. I mean how it can be that on one hand we "restrict" PAF but at the same time threaten Israel so that USA deploys Thaad.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
 
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They didn't crossed the LoC even if they did it was for few minutes and returned, fired the missiles which landed on trees and their media gone nuts over it

PAF didn't respond much cause we wanted to show the false attack of what Indians claimed and show the world it's them that are escalating things not us and we responded next day as a retaliation and downed their 2 jets and showed them what PAF is capable of by jamming their communication showing them we can hit them with BVR tested our JF-17 which successfully downed their jet with SD-10

As a result India started de-escalation and is now running to Russia and Israel to buy stuff so that they can counter PAF

About removing article 370 and 35-A from Kashmir its was already mentioned in the manifesto of BJP before General Elections
 
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Hi

The 26th was the test run by india to see the reaction of the Paf---.

Why do you think they planted that French Scorpene submarine in pakistani waters---why did they have their aircraft carrier planted in pakistani waters---.

Why did they have so many SU30---in the air and none fired a missile at Paf aircraft---.

It was all a pre-planned test run by the indians to see pakistani air force reaction---how far the Paf will go---.

That what that fake smart bomb strike by the iaf aircraft was on trees---.

It was all staged as a precursor for the main act to follow on a different date---.

The indians got their answers loud and clear---Paf does not have the ballz to take out what was offered on a platter---.

Paf backed out to take out all that were put right in front of them---.

That was the answer India wanted to know---how far they would go---.

If the Paf had taken all that was presented---india would not have had the ballz to do what it did with kashmir---.

They were just testing the level of craziness in the Paf---which just deflated like a balloon that had sprung a leak---.

@Khafee @Irfan Baloch @Mangus Ortus Novem

Not again..... :buba_phone:
 
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Sir @MastanKhan;

If Pulwama had not happened then what you are saying was a possibility. Pulwama was staged because Modi wanted to take some visible revenge - to earn bravado so it could gain election success. Recalling how Modi lost in 5 state elections before Pulwama and came out victorious after 27th February.

As a result of this misadventure, IAF must have learned a few bone-shattering lessons. They've learned how incapable they are and what PAF can do to them in response. IAF didn't deliberately let PAF aircraft come bomb it and go nor they did they showed restraint in firing BVRs. If that was the case, they would not have fabricated downing of an F-16 which they felt was needed to save their face. Once they understood how badly they've acted, they had to fire their air chief.

You have put forth an interesting analysis and I find we have reasons to safely say India made a mistake in its madness and got punished for real. It doesn't seem like a rehearsal.
 
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Someone writing all of this shows the damage PAF did in Feb
Not only IAF cried in India but some people cried in Pakistan
 
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So in short you are saying that IAF intentionally gave us their aircraft to shot down, of course they wanted to find out how many of their aircrafts can PAF shoot down.
I am speechless at your deduction skills.

I remember listening few years ago an israeli army officer saying that sometimes to win a war you have to sacrifice few of your own assets.

Agreed it won’t work for small armies, with limited equipments.
 
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