22-year-old martyred Kashmiri Army officer's first leave became his last

[DESERT FIGHTER]

A country run by military and FF

FF is a private wellfare entity run by civilians and former/retired officers,soldiers... similiar orgs are found in several countries including US.

where ex generals hold positions of CEO, MD etc in PSU and fertilizer companies,

So? Any law which bars retired officers from joining private corporate companies?

banks and hospitals,

And im sure indian army doesnt have military hospitals? or any mil in the world right???

Which bank is owned by army>?

where army infiltrates into civic body through CSS to mould the public opinion by implementing an invisible subversion of the society cannot even come close to dictating India right of determination.

Im sorry shyt for brains, but CSS is an exam and candidates are selected..and not from the military..

Mil used to have short termed deputation of officers to police... not civ buearucrary .

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

We Khalsa never forget and never forgive we just need time and space to settle the score.

You people are following a dead dream. It will only lead you to grave. BKI is already dead. Rest will be taken care by Indian Agencies.

Interestingly only Sikh in Canada, US, Australia etc have this sickness. Sikh in India give a damn about this stupidity. Keep on feeding yourself this lie. BTW, dare getting Nanak Saheb's birthplace from Pakistan?

 

[The Eagle]

Nothing is going to hurt the IA. We are playing this game since decades and are really Good at it

Yeah, because a young man lost his life that is actually a game for you or it was told by CO. By the way, the day IA realized that, in Kashmir, you are hurting yourself by both ways as 1 by applying force against Kashmiris that India use to call own people or 2 by loss of lives like this jawan while serving the country, will solve the problem and not that loves to play such game.

 

[Dhara]

Only Sikhs can help their cause whatever it may be. You guys are economically strong but you are still not able to get justice for 84 massacre.

We managed to kill and harm everybody involved in operation blue star but since Pakistan provided lists of freedom fighters with their addresses we can't do anything, arms supplies stopped, leaders killed many exiled remaining went to hiding what we could do tell me. You people betrayed us but days are numbered soon there will be a new struggle either you support us or not.

 

[jetray]

Interestingly only Sikh in Canada, US, Australia etc have this sickness. Sikh in India give a damn about this stupidity. Keep on feeding yourself this lie. BTW, dare getting Nanak Saheb's birthplace from Pakistan?

fakes wont have answer to that. dont bother entertaining such ppl.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

Yeah, because a young man lost his life that is actually a game for you or it was told by CO. By the way, the day IA realized that, in Kashmir, you are hurting yourself by both ways as 1 by applying force against Kashmiris that India use to call own people or 2 by loss of lives like this jawan while serving the country, will solve the problem and not that loves to play such game.

The problem is much more involved. There are people in Jammu who want no part of separatist movement. There are Laddhakis who want no part of Separatist movement. Then even in Kashmir, many districts have people who do not want to be any part of this trouble. They want a decent paying jobs and no interference of Army. Thats all.

 

[Dhara]

You people are following a dead dream. It will only lead you to grave. BKI is already dead. Rest will be taken care by Indian Agencies.

Interestingly only Sikh in Canada, US, Australia etc have this sickness. Sikh in India give a damn about this stupidity. Keep on feeding yourself this lie. BTW, dare getting Nanak Saheb's birthplace from Pakistan?

Kid,
I said Modi is our friend we are in hibernate state not dead just waiting for the right time.

 

[jetray]

Yeah, because a young man lost his life that is actually a game for you or it was told by CO. By the way, the day IA realized that, in Kashmir, you are hurting yourself by both ways as 1 by applying force against Kashmiris that India use to call own people or 2 by loss of lives like this jawan while serving the country, will solve the problem and not that loves to play such game.

Well army was not there in the first place and they came in only when pandits became refugees in their own country during 1987.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

Kid,
I said Modi is our friend we are in hibernate state not dead just waiting for the right time.

You are more like dinosaurs. Dead and fossilized. You folks look good only in museums. I have a question, are you living in Punjab? You and your buddies in which ever country are basically ghosts of 84. You have frozen the time for yourself but rest of Punjab and world have moved ahead. As such your movement has no future.

BTW, I have lived extensively in Punjab. In Gurudaspur, in Ludhiyana, in Chandigarh, even in border villages like Beni Main Khan. None of the folks over there have this fascination with Khalistan. Heck they contribute maximum to the Indian Army. I know villages where each family has given one or two members to Army. Sikhs are so well integrated into the very soul of India that it is impossible to separate Sikhs from India. There is no state which hasn't got Sikh communities.

 

[The Eagle]

The problem is much more involved. There are people in Jammu who want no part of separatist movement. There are Laddhakis who want no part of Separatist movement. Then even in Kashmir, many districts have people who do not want to be any part of this trouble. They want a decent paying jobs and no interference of Army. Thats all.

Is that the reason for deployment of such large number of troops yet downplaying the real cause. This is not that simple and for an understanding, just read few posts here to have an idea if you can that how such games are played either by losses on other or own side.

Well army was not there in the first place and they came in only when pandits became refugees in their own country during 1987.

I am really surprised to read a new history however, problem was there since start and wasn't new as you are trying to employ here. The idea of double cross, Intel-Ops, propaganda and something like dress code mujahideen is not always made public nor media shares at all. The real problem and issue will only be understood, once the outside world has access to IoK.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

Is that the reason for deployment of such large number of troops yet downplaying the real cause.

The real cause is simple. India and Pakistan are at war for claim of Kashmir. LoC is just that, armies facing each other and controlling portions behind a line. Kashmir is a warzone and hence a large number of troops. As any war, there are no absolute right or wrongs. Both side have their own interests.

 

[jetray]

am really surprised to read a new history however, problem was there since start and wasn't new as you are trying to employ here. The idea of double cross, Intel-Ops, propaganda and something like dress code mujahideen is not always made public nor media shares at all. The real problem and issue will only be understood, once the outside world has access to IoK.

You are not answering the question but instead diverting away. Your point was army is harassing ppl but you fail to acknowledge the real reason why army is there in the first place. The world is getting to know what is happening in kashmir bcos of media having access.

 

[The Eagle]

The real cause is simple. India and Pakistan are at war for claim of Kashmir. LoC is just that, armies facing each other and controlling portions behind a line. Kashmir is a warzone and hence a large number of troops. As any war, there are no absolute right or wrongs. Both side have their own interests.

Pakistan supports the Kashmir cause and it's right of self determination only. The war in Kashmir is between the residents of Kashmir and occupying force. For India, it would be like what you said but the case is different from our side.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

Pakistan supports the Kashmir cause and it's right of self determination only. The war in Kashmir is between the residents of Kashmir and occupying force. For India, it would be like what you said but the case is different from our side.

Well then why Azad Kashmir and GB are not separate country(ies) then? You had them 'liberated' in '47. If you are truely supporting Kashmiri cause, make AJK and GB independent first.

BTW I heard there is a proposal to convert AJK and GB into proper provinces of Pakistan.

 

[The Eagle]

You are not answering the question but instead diverting away. Your point was army is harassing ppl but you fail to acknowledge the real reason why army is there in the first place. The world is getting to know what is happening in kashmir bcos of media having access.

You are merely replying for the sake of reply rather realizing that you did not ask any question yet my post was another side of the coin that you deliberately diverted. Which independent media is reporting from IoK. Media aside, even India denied access to UN in IoK.

Well then why Azad Kashmir and GB are not separate country(ies) then? You had them 'liberated' in '47. If you are truely supporting Kashmiri cause, make AJK and GB independent first.

BTW I heard there is a proposal to convert AJK and GB into proper provinces of Pakistan.

A proposal was made by GB to GoP. Azad means Independent and it is Azad Kashmir with their own Assembly etc.