2019-2020 An Impactful year for Pakistan Navy

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

While 2019-2020 has seen news mostly negative sense around the Globe , for Pakistan Navy it has been a Generally a good year. Pakistan Navy continued it's Modernization Drive to Further Boost National Defense by Inducting Few Ships

All the Ships will carry Anti Ship Missiles so it would offer great defensive presence out in ocean

Addition of 4th Fast Attack Stealth Missile Ship

The Twin Induction for Tabouk / Yarkouk
Together with Turkish Radar System

The Ships will ensure Pakistan can monitor it's near shore Trade routes and protect the assets
Hard to imagine just 4-5 years ago people used to state Pakistan Navy is in bad shape but due to the dedicated planning by Navy Officers and Military , The Navy is getting the necessary attention it needs


Since December 2020 is right around corner , likely the Chinese Heavier , Frigates won't be here but 2021 would certainly bring some good news about these Bigger Heavy Duty Enforces which can knock enemy's teeth


With these brand new ships remains to be seen which Helicopters will be used by these ships (the opv)

 

[KaiserX]

PN needs the following-

-20 Stealth Fast Attack Crafts
- 4 Milgem Corvettes
-4 Other stealth Corvettes
-4 F-22Ps Frigates
-8 Type 54A/B Frigates
- 6 Type 52A/B Destroyers
- 8 S20 Submarines
-3 Agosta 90B Submarines
- 10 Midget Submarines
- 3 Nuclear Submarines

So far it seems all are on order/construction other than 4 Type 054B frigates and 6 Type 052B Destroyers (Would be a dream come true and huge force multiplier for the PN). In all PN would easily have a minimum of 28 platforms (Submarines+ Destroyers+ Heavy Frigates) capable of launch Land attack cruise missiles (Babur 3) on Indian land/naval target from well within Pakistans sea waters.

Hundreds of missiles can be used pre-emptively to strike Indian military targets while the same platforms will be able to fight indian naval forces in the indian ocean without having to refit weapons or redock. A truly multi mission fleet.

Inshallah once the Type 052B destroyers/S20 subs are acquired PN can go for Helipad Shits or even a Chinese Aircraft Carrier to project forces deep into the Indian Ocean. Imagine a PN aircraft carrier strike group consisting of an Aircraft carrier with FC-31s, Type 052, Type 54s, and S-20 subs :O

Quite remarkable that in a decade we went from dreaming about heavy frigates and new subs to now dreaming about an Aircraft carrier in the next decade or so. PN seems to really have its act together with procurement/fleet planning, which the other services especially the PAF could learn from.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Original orders were for 4 OPV's; 2 Damen and 2 Swiftships. I foresee a further order for 2 more OPV's.

PN needs the following-

-20 Stealth Fast Attack Crafts
- 4 Milgem Corvettes
-4 Other stealth Corvettes
-4 F-22Ps Frigates
-8 Type 54A/B Frigates
- 6 Type 52A/B Destroyers
- 8 S20 Submarines
-3 Agosta 90B Submarines
- 10 Midget Submarines
- 3 Nuclear Submarines

As I see it PN 50 Ship fleet will look like this:

4 x F22P (Will go for an upgrade)
4+(2) x Type 54A (SIPRI Reports 4 ordered with an option for 2 more)
4 x Milgem/Jinnah Flight I (Milgem with VLS)
(2) x Jinnah Class Flight II Frigates (Larger design with enhanced number of VLS)
2+(2) x OPV's (Original plans were for 4 OPV's only two ordered. Swiftship order cancelled due to Uncle Sam)

3 x A-90 Class Subs (Going through upgrades)
8 x Yuan Class Subs

4 x Azmat Class
(6) x Modified Azmat Class (Need more littoral patrol options)

3 x MCMV (Munsif Class)
(3) x MCMV (Class ?) (Need atleast two for each port. They are more effective when they sweep in pairs)

2+(1) x Fleet Replenishment Ships (Need to add another FRS to support 3 Surface Task Groups)

1 x Hydro-graphic Survey Vessel

1 x Submarine Rescue Vessel

51 Major units not counting the 1 x Tall Ship and smaller patrol vessels and auxiliaries.

 

[monitor]

Original orders were for 4 OPV's; 2 Damen and 2 Swiftships. I foresee a further order for 2 more OPV's.

As swiptcraft order were not materialize Pakistan should complet the order by building another two Damen OPV.

 

[KaiserX]

Original orders were for 4 OPV's; 2 Damen and 2 Swiftships. I foresee a further order for 2 more OPV's.


As I see it PN 50 Ship fleet will look like this:

4 x F22P (Will go for an upgrade)
4+(2) x Type 54A (SIPRI Reports 4 ordered with an option for 2 more)
4 x Milgem/Jinnah Flight I (Milgem with VLS)
(2) x Jinnah Class Flight II Frigates (Larger design with enhanced number of VLS)
2+(2) x OPV's (Original plans were for 4 OPV's only two ordered. Swiftship order cancelled due to Uncle Sam)

3 x A-90 Class Subs (Going through upgrades)
8 x Yuan Class Subs

4 x Azmat Class
(6) x Modified Azmat Class (Need more littoral patrol options)

3 x MCMV (Munsif Class)
(3) x MCMV (Class ?) (Need atleast two for each port. They are more effective when they sweep in pairs)

2+(1) x Fleet Replenishment Ships (Need to add another FRS to support 3 Surface Task Groups)

1 x Hydro-graphic Survey Vessel

1 x Submarine Rescue Vessel

51 Major units not counting the 1 x Tall Ship and smaller patrol vessels and auxiliaries.

Agreed but PN will more than likely end up also going for Type 052Ds within the next 5 years and also focus on building a nuclear submarine line. May take close to a decade to see the first ships/subs but this seems to be PN natural line of upgrades.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Any reason why Italian Ship makers have not been engaged for few ships considering we buy Helicopters and Radars from Italy

 

[Tipu7]

PN needs the following-

-20 Stealth Fast Attack Crafts
- 4 Milgem Corvettes
-4 Other stealth Corvettes
-4 F-22Ps Frigates
-8 Type 54A/B Frigates
- 6 Type 52A/B Destroyers
- 8 S20 Submarines
-3 Agosta 90B Submarines
- 10 Midget Submarines
- 3 Nuclear Submarines

So far it seems all are on order/construction other than 4 Type 054B frigates and 6 Type 052B Destroyers (Would be a dream come true and huge force multiplier for the PN). In all PN would easily have a minimum of 28 platforms (Submarines+ Destroyers+ Heavy Frigates) capable of launch Land attack cruise missiles (Babur 3) on Indian land/naval target from well within Pakistans sea waters.

Hundreds of missiles can be used pre-emptively to strike Indian military targets while the same platforms will be able to fight indian naval forces in the indian ocean without having to refit weapons or redock. A truly multi mission fleet.

Inshallah once the Type 052B destroyers/S20 subs are acquired PN can go for Helipad Shits or even a Chinese Aircraft Carrier to project forces deep into the Indian Ocean. Imagine a PN aircraft carrier strike group consisting of an Aircraft carrier with FC-31s, Type 052, Type 54s, and S-20 subs :O

Quite remarkable that in a decade we went from dreaming about heavy frigates and new subs to now dreaming about an Aircraft carrier in the next decade or so. PN seems to really have its act together with procurement/fleet planning, which the other services especially the PAF could learn from.

PN is not intresred in Type 52 A/B DDGs.

Additional batches of Corvettes from Damen and Type-54AP from China are plausible.
Rest, FAC and FACM combined total will exceed 20 figure.

 

[Zarvan]

PN is not intresred in Type 52 A/B DDGs.

Additional batches of Corvettes from Damen and Type-54AP from China are plausible.
Rest, FAC and FACM combined total will exceed 20 figure.

I am waiting for Pakistan to reveal the ballistic missile it is developing, which can be fired from surface ships, as well as submarines. If it turns out to be a ballistic with a range of few thousand kilometers, than we can expect to see destroyers in Pakistan Navy also. That would also than show what former Naval Chief meant by 20 major vessels.

 

[Tipu7]

I am waiting for Pakistan to reveal the ballistic missile it is developing, which can be fired from surface ships, as well as submarines. If it turns out to be a ballistic with a range of few thousand kilometers, than we can expect to see destroyers in Pakistan Navy also. That would also than show what former Naval Chief meant by 20 major vessels.

If it's a ship borne silo based Ballistic Missile, then it's range will be in hundreds not thousands.

 

[Zarvan]

If it's a ship borne silo based Ballistic Missile, then it's range will be in hundreds not thousands.

That is why I am hoping it turns out to be the missile which requires VLS to carry and fire it. Also the number twenty doesn't make sense at all.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I am waiting for Pakistan to reveal the ballistic missile it is developing, which can be fired from surface ships, as well as submarines. If it turns out to be a ballistic with a range of few thousand kilometers, than we can expect to see destroyers in Pakistan Navy also. That would also than show what former Naval Chief meant by 20 major vessels.

Ballistic Missile launch from a Corvette would be difficult as the ships are not designed to hold that kind of large missile , Ship to Ship missiles are relatively smaller

OPV I think are mostly for close range threats or near shore missions

 

[KaiserX]

PN is not intresred in Type 52 A/B DDGs.

Additional batches of Corvettes from Damen and Type-54AP from China are plausible.
Rest, FAC and FACM combined total will exceed 20 figure.

Im sorry didnt know your the PN spokeman here.... PN is developing long range land attack cruise missiles, it also reveal publically that it is developing hypersonic anti shit ballistic missiles. It would not make sense to develop long range land attack cruise missiles soley for the S20 subs being made since they are small and can only carry upto 10-12 max. Also in the last decade the tonneage of the PNs new acquisitions have steadily increased. Next in line for sure will be Type 052D even if it is an initial order for 2.

 

[Tipu7]

Im sorry didnt know your the PN spokeman here.... PN is developing long range land attack cruise missiles, it also reveal publically that it is developing hypersonic anti shit ballistic missiles. It would not make sense to develop long range land attack cruise missiles soley for the S20 subs being made since they are small and can only carry upto 10-12 max. Also in the last decade the tonneage of the PNs new acquisitions have steadily increased. Next in line for sure will be Type 052D even if it is an initial order for 2.

Thanks for such precious information.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

As far as my logic goes, Ballistic missile, if ever mounted on PN vessels, would be mounted on Subs. A destroyer with Ballistic missiles would be in a compromised position and easier to detect and destroy as compared to a sub.

My guess would be that out of 8 subs, two would be slightly modified to carry a bigger weapons load of longer range cruise missiles of supersonic kind. The rest would be of hunter/killer configuration.