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New Before We start This discussion TO All every 1 specly Indians Its a a discussion just relted to Muslims and Pakistan So plz Dont post Anything Cz i dont hate any religion and And i dont interfere in others business

So now its up 2 u believe or not no 1 can force U just tell u r opinion
Note: This is only specualtion, nobody knows when until Allah wills it. But we have been given signs so that we are not misled. In this thread I will attempt to shed some light on the whole issue. I will use hadith not to prove that 2012 was mentioned, but its too great to be a coincidence. I believe the zionists know about this so they prepared.

2012: Coincidence Or Foretold?




More and more people are hearing about 2012 with someone pointing out the Mayans, it shines in this current political and financial crises. Most of the time its about the world ending, as in self-destruct. But we know that’s not how it ends, and we refer to the Quran and Ahlulbate for evidence regarding this matter.

Prophet Muhammad said: Even if only a day remains for Qiyamah to come, yet Allah will surely send a man from my family who will fill this world with such justice and fairness, just as it initially was filled with oppression.

This means that no matter what happens to the world, whether its a nuclear world war 3 or an economic collapse or global meltdown, even if the earth splits in half, Allah will send the Mahdi at the end. Meaning that whatever happens in 2012 or in the future will not shake our belief. Only Allah knows the end.

Mas'adah relates from Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq (A.S.) that he said: "The Qa'im will be born of Hasan (the 11th Imam, Hazrat Imam Hasan al-'Askari), and Hasan will be son of 'Ali (the tenth Imam, Hazrat Imam 'Ali al-Naqi), and 'Ali will be son of Muhammad (the ninth Imam, Hazrat Imam Muhammad at-Taqi), and Muhammad will be born of 'Ali (the eighth Imam, Hazrat 'Ali ibn Musa ar-Rida) and 'Ali will be son of this child (he pointed to Hazrat Musa ibn Ja'far, the seventh Imam). We are twelve Imams, all pure and of a noble birth. I swear by Allah, if there remains of the world no more than one day, Allah will make that day so long that the Qa'im of us, the Household of the Prophet (S.A.), will appear."

So what is significant about the year 2012?

"According to modern day researchers, the Long Count calendar system was established by the Maya in ancient times to forecast or mark out the very transition points between world ages."

It revolves around astronomy and the long count Mayan calendar, which is used to signal the new ages through the collapse of the old ones. The calendar doesn’t end, and you can research Mayan sources first hand; they do not claim the world will end at any point. On December 21 2012, the calendar resets, thus signalling the beginning of a new age. During the transition it is believed by the Mayans that there will be a shift of consciousness, there will be 3 stages of collapse, revival, and then recovery. During the transition all the evils will be washed away by huge catastrophic natural disaster, all the materialism and impurities will be destroyed thus the earth cleanses itself and starts anew.

"Their only "prediction" is that each of these ages ends in a certain way. The age we are now in is called the age of the jaguar. When the jaguar dies, it's body will shiver and quake. This would be a reference to the Earth experiencing earthquakes and possibly volcanic activity."

Some claim there will be some kind of alignment between the earth, the sun and the milky way and that the Mayan spoke about a 'galactic alignment';

"Considering then the significance of the 2012 date in the Mayan calendar, it has been discovered that this year specifically points to a period of time when the December Solstice Sun aligns with and arises out from the backdrop of the dark rift, the "Galactic Birth Canal" in the central bulge. It's as if the Sun is actually being birthed anew from the Galactic Womb."
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Some claim this specific alignment will cause some kind of shift or reverse in the earths poles, causing a pole shift. A pole shift is possible and it is currently happening, but at a slow rate. Picture the map below, if the centre moves more towards Russia, then it will get cooler in Arabia, in fact this event can cause Arabia to become green, it can make the forest a desert and vice versa. This event will change the weather across the globe. Good article: The Magnetic North Pole Shift is Sprinting to Russia.
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So now we know the following;
1. The Mayan calendar does NOT end on dec 21 2012, it merely resets and begins another 5,125 year cycle.
2. The Mayans believe that first comes collapse and destruction, TRANSIST to revival, peace and harmony.
3. The Jaguar shivers when it dies, (destruction period/pole shift).

Because of that, the subject '2012' has managed to attract all the dajjals, false prophets, doomsayers, new agers, palm readers and extra-terrestrial believers to invest and manipulate the topic to suit their own agenda.

Regardless, more and more discoveries are being made about other civilizations that also point to 2012.

The ancient Egyptians, Aztecs, Cherokees, Tibetans all have calendars that reset in 2012, and all see a global catastrophe as the start of the next age. Some see the Age of Aquarius, whilst others predict the coming of a world teacher. The Muslims wait for the Mahdi, the Christians wait for Jesus, the Jews wait for messiah, the Hindus wait for kalki, the Buddhist are waiting for Buddha, the Baha’is are waiting for maitreya and the Tibetans waiting for Jampa.

Kalki of Hindusim
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Everybody is waiting for someone, we know all the previous prophets warned their people about the Dajjal, but they also gave hope of that rightly guided person who will redeem the right and restore good and I believe they were all foretelling Sahb Al Zaman. But people corrupted the message and changed the religions over thousands of years; most recent corruption for example, is the Sunni belief that the Mahdi will be born/normal/not ma’soom. Now imagine there was no Karbala, and the true belief ended there through Kaffir governments, eventually Islam would only become a symbol like Christianity. It would be here but no one will follow it. In fact it is almost like this today, so if it wasn’t for karbala Islam would have perished, the Sunni Islam remained only because of the Shia, because the shia were getting stronger every century which forced the Sunni to maintain religion and counter the threat of shia. So ahlul Sunnah should thank Imam Hussein and his companions that they still have a chance to enter heaven!

Regarding the Dajjal

We said: Allah's Apostle (P.B.U.H), how long will he stay on Earth?
He said: For forty days, one day like a year, one day like a month, one day like a week, and the rest of the days will be like your days.
We said: Allah's Apostle (P.B.U.H) will one day's prayer suffice for the prayers of the day equal to one year?
Thereupon he (P.B.U.H) said: No, but you must make an estimate of the time (and then observe prayer).

In Allah book we can relate and understand what the prophet was explaining

Surah 22:47 “Yet they ask thee to hasten on the Punishment! But God will not fail in His Promise. Verily a Day in the sight of thy Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning.”

Surah 32:5 "He regulates the affair from the heaven to the earth; then shall it ascend to Him in a day/period the measure of which is a thousand years of what you count.”

40 days,

1 day like a year = 1000 divided by 1 = 1000 years
1 day like a month = 1000 divided by 12 = 83.3 years (to find the month we divide the year, which is 1000 by 12, for 12 months, each month is equivalent to 83 years)
1 day like a week = 1000 divided by 52 = 19 years (to find the week, we divide the year which is 1000 by 52 weeks. So each week is equivalent to 19 years)

the other 37 days will be like our normal days, meaning this is when the dajjal personally appears.

Shiek Imran Hosein did great work on the topic of dajjal and I will use his opinion about the matter.

The 1 day like a year was when Britain was the ruling state of the world. We had the British Empire which at its peak lasted for over a hundred years, but the idea started in the 9th century through the illuminati. They spent the next hundred years building the foundation in Britain, building masonic temples; create projects on Lucifer’s order, to control the money, to control the world. This took them hundreds of years, the mega expansion didn’t begin until 14th century, during this time we saw colonization, slavery, and later the industrial revolution once everything was set. From the 9th century until the 19th is a thousand years.

'Wiki' "Between 1815 and 1914, a period referred to as Britain's "imperial century" by some historians, around 10,000,000 square miles (26,000,000 km2) of territory and roughly 400 million people were added to the British Empire. Victory over Napoleon left Britain without any serious international rival, other than Russia in central Asia. Unchallenged at sea, Britain adopted the role of global policeman, a state of affairs later known as the Pax Britannica, and a foreign policy of "splendid isolation". Alongside the formal control it exerted over its own colonies, Britain's dominant position in world trade meant that it effectively controlled the economies of many countries, such as China, Argentina and Siam, which has been characterised by some historians as "informal empire"."

Then World War 1 began in 1914, in which we saw the transition of power from the UK to the yet 300 year old USA. world war 1 ended in 1918. The USA was now the power house and leading state. The UK was still fading as it slowly transfers its affair to America. So began Pax Americana.

From 1918 to 2001 the US was calling the shots and policing the world, whilst dominating the economy and all media outlets. This was83 years.

The period of 1997-2001 saw the transition of power, Israel began its rule as the last and final state, it began in 2001 with 9/11, dubbed war on terror, it was war on islam as the time of dajjal nears.

Note* every year gets shorter, but more intense. So what the UK did in 1000 years, the USA did in 83, and whatever the US did in 83 years, Israel will do as much in 19 years. And the dajjal will combine that whole time in only 37 days.

Israel will rule for 1 day like a week, for 19 years starting from 2001 ending in 2020 timeframe, so between 2017-2026.

Based on the calculations above, people can estimate the appearance of the Mahdi. Sahb Al zaman will rule for 7 years, and then at the end of the 7 years the dajjal will appear and spread his false religion for 37 days.

Hadhrat Abu Saeed Khudri (R.A.) relates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, "Al Mahdi will be from my progeny. His forehead will be broad and his nose will be high. He will fill the world with justice and fairness at a time when the world will be filled with oppression. He will rule for seven years."

If the calculations are correct, and the dajjal will appear in the 2020 timeframe, then the Mahdi needs to appear 7 years before that. And so 2020 - 7 = 2013 timeframe.

Then we observe the matter closely, and search for more details, for we have been warned of this period because it holds so much importance. It is so important it deals with the whole reason behind our existence. Allah has emerged ahlulbayte with the reason behind our existence. Allah has chosen Muhammed and his Progney (PBUT) to execute his plan for mankind on earth. Allah accomplishes his goal through them. They are our guide, and the best example of people who truly, and fully submitted to Allah. Ahlulbayte (A.S) said NO to all the desires of this world. Satan could not tempt them in any way shape or form. Allah has showed us through them the qualities of which we all must seek. Because if Satan couldn’t tempt you in this world, then Satan wouldn’t be able to tempt you in heaven, meaning that you would have passed the test and not have been lured to eat the apple from the cursed tree.

This is a statement to Satan(iblis), who argued, that man was inferior to him, he was light and man was clay, and that he(satan) has worshipped Allah more this man, he argued that this imperfect being(man) doesn’t deserve me(the light/lucifer) to bow to him.

Lucifer or Satan has free will, but does not have desires. So he worshipped Allah, he did well and was sincere; until he was tested.

After refusing to bow, Allah cast Satan out of heaven along with those who rebelled (jinn).

Satan 'vowed' that he will prove to Allah that the humans are truly NOT worthy of the status Allah has given them in heaven.

And so he tempted Adam to eat out of the prohibited tree.

Since that time there has been a war that rages on today.

Allah has already shown that it is possible for anyone to enter heaven, so satan already lost.

Those who fought alongside the prophet Mohammed peace be upon him, they were normal people and we know according to the prophet that they earned paradise for their jihad.

Who can forget malik al ashtar and his bravery/loyalty? Or better yet Hurr who switched sides and join Imam Hussein(as) on Karbala, Heaven is for those who cant be tempted, those who submit with faith, for truth!

now all Satan wants to do is drag as many people with him to hellfire.

Allah wills this, because Allah wants to test the rest of us now, are we worthy for heaven? Can we control our desires on this earth? When satan offers us the apple in this life do we eat it? If you do then you will have a problem in heaven. You will not be qualified to enter heaven. And so you should think about all your actions, and strive to not allow desire or hypocrisy to control you.

The Friday and Ramadan of 2012.

Fridays of the Month of Ramazan
Imam Baqir (A.S.) has said: Surely, the Fridays of the month of Ramazan possess an excellence over the Fridays of the other months, just as Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him and his progeny) possesses an excellence over the other prophets. Bihar al-Anwar, vol. 69, pg. 376
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[al-Fadl b. Shadhan (reported) on the authority of Ahmad b.Muhammad b. Abi Nasr , on the authority of Thalaba al-Azdi, who said:]

Abu Jafar (al-Baqir), peace be on him, said: "Two signs will come before the one who will arise (al-qa'im/imam mahdi), peace be on him: there will be an eclipse of the sun in the middle of the month of Ramadan and an eclipse of the moon at the end of it."

"Son of the Apostle of God," I said, "usually the eclipse of the sun occurs at the end of the month and the eclipse of the moon occurs in the middle of it?"

"I know what I have said," replied Abu Jafar (al-Baqir), peace be on him. "They are signs which have not occurred since Adam came down."
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Abdullah ibn Mas'ud [r.a.] said that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "When there is a Sayha (scream) in Ramadan, then there will be turmoil in Shawwal, and the tribes will form groups in Zul-Qi'da, and blood will be spilled in Zul-Hijja, and in Al-Muharram! What is prohibited?" saying it three times, "Oh, Oh! The people will be killed in a great massacres." He said: "We said: "What is the Sayha (scream), O Messenger of Allah?" He said: "This will be in the middle of Ramadan, on a Friday morning. That will be when the month of Ramadan begins on a Friday night. There will be a Hadda (powerful, hammering sound) that will awaken one who is asleep, and bring the young women out of their rooms, on a Friday night during a year of many earthquakes (and very cold). So when Ramadan begins on a Friday night in that year, then when you have prayed Fajr on Friday in the middle of Ramadan, then enter your houses, close your doors, block your windows, cover yourselves, and block your ears. When you sense the scream, fall down in prostration to Allah and say: "Subhanal-Quddus, subhanal-Quddus, rabbunal-Quddus (Glory be to the Most Holy, glory be to the Most Holy, our Lord is the Most Holy)." For whoever does that will survive, and whoever does not will perish." (Nuaim bin Hammad's Kitab Al-Fitan, Hadith )

weak hadith but relevant:
Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him said,
On the 15th of Ramadan, Friday night there will be a voice (blast) that will awaken the asleep, that will alarm the awake, the noble ladies will come out of their seclusion. That day there will be too many earthquakes.
Therefore, there will be three major landslides like never seen before. One in the East, one in the West & one in the Arabia. The Earth will swallow everything above it & as a result, many people will die.

Landslides, one will be in Arabia and that will swallaw the sufyanis Army in Ramadan.

Start of Ramadan, 1, Ramadan, 1433 = Friday 20 July 2012 C.E
Middle of Ramadan, 15, Ramadan, 1433 = Friday 3 August 2012 C.E

*There is a small probability of one day error.
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What is happening around the world at that time?

London 2012 Summer Olympics.

A mega ritual for Lucifer. for Zion, for the chosen people of god to be made during Ramadan.
Opening ceremony 27 July
Closing ceremony 12 August

2012 logo, clearly spells out ZION. (Uncovered by Rick Clay)
in august 2012 they hope to implement their NWO, and create GREATER ISRAEL that extends from the nile to the euphrates. (greater israel will be created by the Sufuani, he will conquer for them until his demise, they will work from under the curtains)
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If this isn’t enough, they will have the all seeing eye of Lucifer, illuminate the masses. Under the unjust hierarchy system of the pyramid.

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The stadium lights for 2012 olympics:

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The all Seeing Eye, otherwise known as the eye of providence. Is the eye of lucifer, eye of iblis, eye of satan. You can call it the eye of dajjal. The Zionists are the pioneers and they founded the dajjal foundation in Britain, and so they pledged an oath that they would serve him as their true lord. Satan was always misleading people to worship him instead of Allah, or lead people to worship the sun, which is the creation of Allah. Satan entrenched his teachings into the earth, since the ancient Egyptians and so the freemasons believe in what they do, IN GOD(lucifer) WE TRUST on the dollar bill, its clear which side they’re on..

This system has pledged their allegiance to lucifer, and to the mesih ad Dajjal. They vowed to serve him and him alone, and to establish his kingdom before he returns to earth.

You have to remember that this didn’t start in Britain, it was before that, it started with the knights Templars or even before. That’s why when the Romans attacked Jesus on the order of the high jewish rabbis, the majority of the people didn’t backup jesus . So Allah ascended Jesus back to heaven due to the failure of mankind, Jesus came to give the people a message, to tell them about Allah and teach them how to live peacefully and in harmony. He also warned them about the Dajjal, and he promised to them Prophet Mohammed and the 12 imams , that’s why the number 12 is mentioned a lot in the bible. But they changed this; they eliminated everything that Jesus mentioned about Prophet Mohammed and Islam. They then corrupted the teachings and prosecuted all those who followed Jesus and knew him as a prophet. Instead they introduced their own version of the story, this would become Christianity. Slowly and gradually changing bits and pieces. Modifying it every few centuries until it became a pagan religion. The Christians now worship the Son/Sun of God, on a Sunday. And the Son of god is god, and so the Dajjal will claim prophet hood, and then godhood, and they will accept it. they will accept a man as god because that’s what their foundation is based on.

More about Christianity relation to Pagan sun worship


Lucifer was spreading mischief on earth for a very long period, since the start. But this is intensified during the dajjals rule. The dajjal has already implemented his system and way of living in most of the world, his momentums and symbols all over the world.

The obelisk, or known as the horn of Satan, or an energy harbour. It is a symbol for Lucifer’s presence. He has ordered his followers to build them on key points on the earth, known as energy points. it is claimed that they harvest energy.

Washington DC

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Turkey
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italy
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Website: More Obelisk pictures through out world

There are thousands of these scattered throughout the earth, the dajjal empire is built, all they need now is him, google Obelisk.

There is one in Mecca too, and this is why we stone it, stone the shaytan, becuase this represnts satan.

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In recent days the Saudi, adjusted this matter
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It is now protected by this huge wall, its so that people will not injure themselves, a complete lie.
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The matter doesn’t end here with al Saud.

The palace of dajjal in Saudi Arabia


or the mecca clocktower, which resembles western clock towers, a symbol of the majesty of the dajjal.

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O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Messenger of Allaah, and our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, "There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from their appears the Horn of Satan."
Reported in al-Bukhaaree [Book of Trials, Chpt. 'The afflictions will come from the East' 9/166 no. 214 Eng. Trans]
From the east of mecca /madina and that is najd(Riyadh). If demascus is north, then Iraq is north east and so najd is east.
In recent days the Saudis and Satanists tried to claim that najd is in fact Iraq and not the najd of saudi. This can easily be laughed at and dismissed. Because this map speaks for itself:

Najd means elevated land (high land), How is Iraq highland, it is in fact the opposite.
At the time this hadith was given, Islam had no conquered Iraq yet, so why would the prophet pbuh bless the people of Iraq when they have not embraced islam yet? (at the time this hadith was given Islam had conquered Arabia and parts of sham but not Iraq,) map
Green in the map is prophet Mohammed expansion, pink and black are the other caliphs after him. So we can now conclude that Iraq was not yet muslim at the time this hadith was given, and so the prophet cursed najd, and today we can understand why.

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HORN OF SATAN?

could this be the horn of satan?

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resemblance?
 
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So what happens inside this building?

“ It is also the headquarters of his holding company: Kingdom Holding Company.”

Kingdom Holding Company (Arabic: شركة المملكة القابضة‎) is a public holding company headquartered in Kingdom Centre in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, and is the largest company in Saudi Arabia.[1] It is controlled by Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz, and is headquartered in the city of Riyadh. The company is publicly listed in the Saudi Stock Exchange, but only 6% of the shares are public, the remaining 94% being owned by Prince Alwaleed

They have infiltrated the city of Rasuluallah and also the house of Allah. The al Saud clearly sold out, and they have spread their own version of Islam, in which their god has human qualities such as hands and legs. They worship Lucifer now, so they built the walls around the horn which the Muslims stone. Buying weapons and conspiring against other muslims. They have stolen the oil money and refuse to help the people with wealth which doesnt even belong to them. Wealth that is under the Shia, all the oil is under the Shia. They are building thousands of mosques across the world which would be a good thing but only to teach the false Islam, but surely the righteous muslims will eventually inherit those mosques, and we will use them to spread good during the Imams time.

Another hadith that supports the time, and this hadith is mesmerizing when you look at the whole picture regarding the other hadiths and their alignments.

Imam al-Baqir (‘a) said: “It is as if I can see Hadrat Qa’im on Saturday on the day of ‘Ashura’ standing between Rukn and Maqam (Mecca) with Jibril (Archangel Gabriel) standing in front of him and calling on the people to pay allegiance to him.”

Imam al-Baqir (‘a) also said: “Hadrat Qa’im (‘a) will stage the uprising on Saturday on the day of ‘Ashura’, the day when Imam Husayn (‘a) was martyred.” He (‘a) also said: “Do you know what day—’Ashura’—is this? It is the day when God accepted the repentance of Adam (Adam) and Hawwa (Eve); the day when God split the sea for the Children of Israel, drowned Pharaoh and his legion and made Musa (Moses) triumphant over Pharaoh; the day when Ibrahim (Abraham) was born; the day when God accepted the repentance of the people of Yunus (Jonah); the day when Hadrat ‘Isa was born; and the day when Hadrat Qa’im will stage the uprising.”

10th of Muharram ( Ashura ), 1434 = Saturday 24 November 2012 C.E

There is a hadith which states

that Imam al mahdi will not appear in that but an odd year, meaning 1, 3, 5, 7, 9

another states

Imam al mahdi will not appear in an odd year, meaning he will appear in 2, 4, 6, 8, 10

and another

Imam mahdi will appear in an odd century. we are now in 15th century hijri

which one is right? I dont know.

I will be very thankful if one can find the orginal hadith in arabic.

Sufis believe that the Mahdi will appear in a year which will be hajj al akbar. this was popularized by Shaykh Nazim Adil Al-Haqqani

Hajj al akbar happen when eid al adha is on a friday.

This year, eid al adha will be on october 26 2012, which is Friday 10 Thw al-Hijjah 1433 A.H.

So we know this year it will be crowded in Mecca. and the Prophet said;

"When there is a Sayha (scream) in Ramadan, then there will be turmoil in Shawwal, and the tribes will form groups in Zul-Qi'da, and blood will be spilled in Zul-Hijja, and in Al-Muharram! What is prohibited?"

Basing all these time alignments on the current events of the world today, and the 2012 propaganda is in full play. They cant stop the Mahdi, but they can mislead as much people as they can, and they will destroy the middle east and the whole world to make his job ever harder, but Allah will open the earth for him.

Now it is not only the Mayans who Predict doom, researchers and scientists are also pointing to the Sun, and to the earth weird changing atmosphere, the dying birds and bees, the volcanic activies and natural disasters that are only increasing.

Surely everyone was warned, and Allah sent prophets to all the people to guide them, and with every prophet he sent hints, and so that his plan remained on earth. Satan couldnt destroy the plan, he could only cover it and mislead people away from it by any means necessary.

We still yet to talk about the Sufyani, yamani and khorasani, the great war and the russians, the sedition, the death of abdullah, the troops from maghrib and their relation to the situation today

To be continued Another day Insha'Allah...

Thank you for reading

May Allah hasten the Arrival of Sahb al Zaman, Imam Al Mahdi
 
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nice post indeed ............and you wrote all these ??? any links to the original article ??
 
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To support your claims you did not provide the authentic Hadiths of mainstream Islam. Even Zaidi & Ismaili branches of Shiites do not endorse your claim that Ithna Ashari 12th Child Imam will resurface as Mahndi.
 
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This is insane.

World does not end in 2012.
Anything related to it is also insanity.
 
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You and me are just too ignorant to be publically drawing conclusions from the aHadiith. Some scholars have been known to have waited before they were 40 to consider themselves mentally mature enough to write a pamphet, because it could lead people off course.
Thanks.
 
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Excellent & interesting Piece to read !!
Would have really made desired impact if it was supported by credible source or link.
 
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Excellent & interesting Piece to read !!
Would have really made desired impact if it was supported by credible source or link.

The same i asked him to the thread opener.

To support your claims you did not provide the authentic Hadiths of mainstream Islam. Even Zaidi & Ismaili branches of Shiites do not endorse your claim that Ithna Ashari 12th Child Imam will resurface as Mahndi.
 
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Whats big deal if you die today or after 10-20 years.ultimately everyone has to die.
 
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The same i asked him to the thread opener.

To support your claims you did not provide the authentic Hadiths of mainstream Islam. Even Zaidi & Ismaili branches of Shiites do not endorse your claim that Ithna Ashari 12th Child Imam will resurface as Mahndi.

This is a new imagination theory or ideology i guess.
In comming few months or years we will find several takers of this theory like people most do about Ghazwa-e-Hind. Even new hadiths will be forged to support it.As far as in real ISLAM, forecasting future is a sin or fitnaa.

The fact is, Muslim holy book (Koran) itself quite clearly says that Prophet Mohammed does not know the future at all (ref: 46:9, 7:188, 6:50, 5:109)


Whats big deal if you die today or after 10-20 years.ultimately everyone has to die.

To personal level you are right.
But in broader sense,Its not about you are me dying. Its about world we live in, world our childrens will inherit from us,its realted to spirituality or even after-life world.
 
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in the start their is a »»»» Note: This is only specualtion, nobody knows when until Allah wills it. But we have been given signs so that we are not misled. In this thread I will attempt to shed some light on the whole issue. I will use hadith not to prove that 2012 was mentioned, but its too great to be a coincidence. I believe the zionists know about this so they prepared.««««


2nd about proof Ist Picutre Abdullah ibn Mas'ud [r.a.] said that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "When there is a Sayha (scream) in Ramadan, then there will be turmoil in Shawwal, and the tribes will form groups in Zul-Qi'da, and blood will be spilled in Zul-Hijja, and in Al-Muharram! What is prohibited?" saying it three times, "Oh, Oh! The people will be killed in a great massacres." He said: "We said: "What is the Sayha (scream), O Messenger of Allah?" He said: "This will be in the middle of Ramadan, on a Friday morning. That will be when the month of Ramadan begins on a Friday night. There will be a Hadda (powerful, hammering sound) that will awaken one who is asleep, and bring the young women out of their rooms, on a Friday night during a year of many earthquakes (and very cold). So when Ramadan begins on a Friday night in that year, then when you have prayed Fajr on Friday in the middle of Ramadan, then enter your houses, close your doors, block your windows, cover yourselves, and block your ears. When you sense the scream, fall down in prostration to Allah and say: "Subhanal-Quddus, subhanal-Quddus, rabbunal-Quddus (Glory be to the Most Holy, glory be to the Most Holy, our Lord is the Most Holy)." For whoever does that will survive, and whoever does not will perish." (Nuaim bin Hammad's Kitab Al-Fitan, Hadith )

now all these theories are from different Islamic scholars And no 1 knows when will be the end of this earth and what when will Happen Just Allah almighty knows it But isnt its human nature to search for the facts
 
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This is a new imagination theory or ideology i guess.
In comming few months or years we will find several takers of this theory like people most do about Ghazwa-e-Hind. Even new hadiths will be forged to support it.As far as in real ISLAM, forecasting future is a sin or fitnaa.

The fact is, Muslim holy book (Koran) itself quite clearly says that Prophet Mohammed does not know the future at all (ref: 46:9, 7:188, 6:50, 5:109)



To personal level you are right.
But in broader sense,Its not about you are me dying. Its about world we live in, world our childrens will inherit from us,its realted to spirituality or even after-life world.

Yes But My dear Holy Prophet Muhammad (PEACE.BE.UPON.HIM) only know what Allah told him

“Say: I say not to you, I have with me the treasures of Allah, nor do I know the unseen,
nor do I say to you that I am an angel; I follow only that which is revealed to me. Say:
Are the blind and the seeing alike? Do you not then reflect?” (6:50).

What is meant by the verse is that, as a man Muhammad was like other men, i.e., he did not
know the unseen etc., but as a prophet, he knew and followed everything revealed to him by
Allah. The unique greatness and nobleness of the Prophet lie in the fact that he never tried to
put himself before the people as a superhuman.
 
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Yes But My dear Holy Prophet Muhammad (PEACE.BE.UPON.HIM) only know what Allah told him

“Say: I say not to you, I have with me the treasures of Allah, nor do I know the unseen,
nor do I say to you that I am an angel; I follow only that which is revealed to me. Say:
Are the blind and the seeing alike? Do you not then reflect?” (6:50).

What is meant by the verse is that, as a man Muhammad was like other men, i.e., he did not
know the unseen etc., but as a prophet, he knew and followed everything revealed to him by
Allah. The unique greatness and nobleness of the Prophet lie in the fact that he never tried to
put himself before the people as a superhuman.

Excellent explanation Sir....!!
Definitely I am already impressed by Prophet's (PBUH) life.Learnt something new about him today. Thank You.
 
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