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RBI holds 557.75 tonne gold; 20k tonne held by public: Govt - Business Today
The Reserve Bank holds 557.75 tonne gold while over 20,000 tonne of the metal is held by the public in the country, Parliament was informed on Tuesday.

"The Reserve Bank of India hold 557.75 tonnes of gold. The government does not maintain the data on gold held by the people in the country," Finance Minister Arun Jaitley said in a written reply in Rajya Sabha on Tuesday.

As per some reports, there is around 20,000 tonne of gold held by the people in the country, he added.

Replying to a question about the foreign exchange used to import gold during the last three years, the minister said $34.41 billion was used in 2014-15; $28.70 billion in 2013-14 and $53.82 billion in 2012-13.

Further he said that Gold Deposit Scheme was launched by the government in 1999 with "the aim and objective of mobilising the idle gold in the country".

India, the world's largest consumer of gold, imports around 800-900 tonnes of gold annually.

Gold shipments in the country have been steadily rising after the Reserve Bank in November 2014 scrapped the 80:20 rule, under which it was mandatory for traders to export 20 per cent of the import.
 
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Imagine if Indian ladies donate just HALF of their Gold ornaments in the times of war for country. We would have more gold, than total reserve of all top 19 nations excluding USA which is on top.

I see a, 1.5 billion people strong country, with world's third largest ground fighting force, fighting war with years of supply of weapon, ammunition, ration and logistical items, purchased by this gold in times of war.

God bless India's Enemies...
 
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20K tonnes is a lot. Old civilizations tend to value gold, Indians across the generations have followed that traditions and it still continues today.

On another note, US reserves are probably overstated while China's are under-stated.
 
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RBI holds 557.75 tonne gold; 20k tonne held by public: Govt - Business Today
The Reserve Bank holds 557.75 tonne gold while over 20,000 tonne of the metal is held by the public in the country, Parliament was informed on Tuesday.

"The Reserve Bank of India hold 557.75 tonnes of gold. The government does not maintain the data on gold held by the people in the country," Finance Minister Arun Jaitley said in a written reply in Rajya Sabha on Tuesday.

As per some reports, there is around 20,000 tonne of gold held by the people in the country, he added.

Replying to a question about the foreign exchange used to import gold during the last three years, the minister said $34.41 billion was used in 2014-15; $28.70 billion in 2013-14 and $53.82 billion in 2012-13.

Further he said that Gold Deposit Scheme was launched by the government in 1999 with "the aim and objective of mobilising the idle gold in the country".

India, the world's largest consumer of gold, imports around 800-900 tonnes of gold annually.

Gold shipments in the country have been steadily rising after the Reserve Bank in November 2014 scrapped the 80:20 rule, under which it was mandatory for traders to export 20 per cent of the import.
So the housewives of India and Bappi lahiri hold more gold than the reserve bank of India...
 
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So the housewives of India and Bappi lahiri hold more gold than the reserve bank of India...

What about Baba's???
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Bappi da

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According to Bapi's affidavit filed with the Election Commission, he owns 754 gram gold jewellery worth Rs 17,67,451 while his wife Chitrani has 967 gram gold ornaments worth Rs 20,74,830.

His wife has 8.9 kg silver worth Rs 3,59,600 and 3.2 diamond carats estimated to be valued at Rs 4,27,353.
 
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Gold hoarding for a country that practically does not produce a gram of gold?:enjoy:

List of countries by gold production - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For a strange reason, the Chinese also like gold and as such hoard more gold than the Indians.

PS Gold holding counts as a part of a country's foreign exchange reserves.

India has been mining gold since centuries. According to experts, the Indian gold mining history could be between 6000 to 8000 years old. There are several known old gold.workings in the Kolar, Hutti, Gadag, Wynad goldfields and elsewhere. It appears though that Wynad was responsible for the great gold boom of 1880 when 33 companies with an aggregate capital of over 4,000,000
sterling pounds were floated in the London market, reports an article by the Bharat Gold Mines Ltd.

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false India produces gold, the bharath gold mines ltd (BGML) KGF karnataka,closed in 2001 because the central govt thought it as a loss making unit and it is not viable to extract gold profitably,
the city of kolar gold fields had the largest gold mines in India and the second deepest gold mines in the world (17,000 ft deep) it was called the champion reefs gold mines,Kolar was known as the largest gold production centre in Asia (Ore & Industry in the Far East by H. Foster Bain - NY Times Review, 1927) it totally produced 12000 tons of gold i its 140 years history today hutti gold mines produses gold which is in karnataka

history of gold mining in KGF(india)
The tradition of mining gold at Kolar started at least as early as the first millennium BC with linkages to the Indus Valley civilization. Golden objects found in Harappa and mohanjo-daro have been traced to KGF through an impurities-analysis assay, as the impurities include 11% silver concentration, found only in KGF ore. Pliny, a Roman historian who passed in this area in 77 C.E. wrote about gold and silver mines. The Champion reef at the Kolar gold fields was mined to a depth of 50 meters during the Guptha period in the fifth century A.D. Subsequently, the metal continued to be mined during the Chola period in the 9th and 10th century AD, the Vijayanagara Empire from 1336 to 1565, and later by Tipu Sultan, the leader of Mysore state. The scale of the operations grew at each stage by the digging of small to large pits.

Renewed interest in the Kolar gold fields occurred towards the beginning of the nineteenth century. In 1802, John Warren, a British commander set up a camp to explore the possibility of mining gold in the Kolar region. The ancient gold workings, other workings which may have been 200 to 600 years old and the workings of Tipu Sultan were all located by Captain Warren in 1802. In 1873, M.F. Lavelle, an Irish soldier who returned from New Zealand after fighting Maori war and settled in Bangalore, applied to the Mysore Government for the exclusive privilege of mining in the Kolar district. His request was granted and he commenced operations by sinking a shaft near Uirgam (Oorgaum) in 1875, but, finding that large capital would be required, in the following year and with the approval of the government, Lavalle transferred all his rights and concessions to Major General G. de la Poer Beresford. General Beresford formed a syndicate known as the Kolar Concessionaries which took up the matter in earnest, and gradually acquired most of the area now known as the Kolar Gold Fields. However, large-scale mining only came in the 1890s under the British firm John Taylor & Company which did much of the prospecting and mining with more skilled manpower and sophisticated machinery.

The principal mines in the Gold Fields starting with Michael F. Lavelle in 1864 to the mines developed by John Taylor & Company up to 1905 were:

Later, after 1956, BGML amalgamated the Champion and Mysore mines and started the Yeppamana and Old Baisanathan Mines.

The mines were taken over by the Government of Mysore in 1956 and by the Ministry of Finance, Government of India in 1962. They were handed over to the government company called Bharath gold mines ltd under the Ministry of Mines in 1972. The Bharat Gold Mines Limited has thus come out of various combinations and permutations. The company has the record of having Morarji Desai as its chairman (when it was with the Finance Ministry) and some of the erstwhile chief Ministers of Mysore State (when it was with the government of Mysore).

The gold mines of KGF were closed down by BGML in 2001 due to reducing deposits and increasing costs. Since then a legal struggle is being waged by the ex-employees of BGML against the Ministry of Mines. In September 2003 the karnataka high court directed the government to hand over the mines to the employees and in December 2006, the Ministry undertook in court to do so at a market determined price. In July, 2010 after protracted litigation.

champion reefs mines(more than 17,000 ft deep)second deepest mines in the world
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value in USD? mera calculator app crash ho gaya :D
 
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India's obsession with gold is well known around the world. To most Western commentators, this obsession seems irrational, and Indian people seem like incurable gold bugs.

However, on closer examination, gold ownership in India is neither excessive nor irrational. In fact, when religious, cultural, and historical perspectives are considered, India's appetite for gold seems rather matter of fact indeed. Nonetheless, it is not lost on any Indian worth his or her salt that gold is the asset that best protects wealth and freedom.

When my father, a pediatric surgeon, wanted to buy land to construct his clinic and supplement his meager government income, he purchased the land by mortgaging my mother's jewelry. Similarly, millions of people in India have capitalized their businesses or farms, or secured their basic necessities after severe business reversals, by pledging their gold jewelry. As we shall see below, were it not for gold, the average Indian's lot through history could've been a lot worse.

India's Per Capita Gold Holdings
India's private gold ownership is difficult to determine accurately. However, several websites, such as Gold Eagle, estimate the total private gold holdings to be about 15,000 metric tons. Compared to that figure, the Indian government owns a negligible 360 metric tons of gold.

Given that total gold mined in history is about 160,000 metric tons, India's stake then amounts to 9.6 percent of the world's total gold stock. In contrast, India accounts for just over 17 percent of the world's population. Therefore, India's large gold ownership is just a function of its large population, and its per capita gold ownership is well below average.

However, there can be no doubting Indians' desire to own this metal. Demand from India consumes some 20–25 percent of the world's annual gold output.

Religious and Cultural Reasons For Gold Ownership
Much of this desire to acquire gold dates back to the Bronze Age Indus Valley civilization, in which people wore gold jewelry almost 4,000 years ago.

Gold has a rich tradition in the Hindu epics, the Ramayana and the Mahabharata. It was associated with the pomp and splendor of the gods and kings who appear in these mythological stories. The Ramayana, the earlier of the two epics, can be traced back to around 900 BC, so gold had risen above all other commodities to be associated with power, prestige, and wealth even back then.

Let me narrate a short story to illustrate how deeply gold and wealth are ingrained into the Hindu culture. The world's richest temple, at Tirupati, was built in honor of Sri Venkateswara, an incarnation of Lord Vishnu. Legend has it that Venkateswara, who was born poor, sought the hand of Princess Padmavati, the incarnate of Vishnu's celestial consort, Lakshmi.

Her father decreed that Venkateswara could marry Padmavati only if he possessed wealth comparable to the king himself. Venkateswara sought a loan of gold and jewels from Lord Kubera, the Hindu god of wealth. To help Venkateswara repay this loan symbolically, Hindu devotees donate money at Tirupati to this day.

This is but one of many thousands of stories from Hindu mythology that involve gods, kings, and wealth. Generations of Indians reared on these stories have come to associate gold with mythical qualities.

Historical Usage of Gold
Silver coins were widely used in India during the reign of the Mauryas circa 250 BC. The first gold coins were issued widely during the Gupta dynasty around 250 AD. Interestingly, this period was also known as the Golden Age.

On the face of it, every emperor issues coins to accentuate the significance of his rule. However, there was a more practical reason for Indians to use gold as money.

India, over the past 4 millennia, was a collection of many thousands of kingdoms and fiefdoms. Every once in a while, a ruler such as Emperor Chandragupta Maurya appeared on the scene and was able to consolidate a majority of India. However, no sooner did such an able emperor pass away than his empire disintegrated.

"Millions of people in India have capitalized their businesses or farms, or secured their basic necessities after severe business reversals, by pledging their gold jewelry."
Even with the big empires, there was always plenty of fighting, and border territories constantly changed hands. Millions of Indians could, in their lifetimes, expect to be the subjects of several different rulers and kingdoms.

Gold, being of high value, could easily be hidden during times of strife, enabling ordinary citizens to avoid being looted by marauding armies. Further, a gold coin issued by one king could serve as money under any other king as long as the weight and purity of the issued coin could be assessed. Therefore, gold was the preferred medium of exchange and store of wealth.

The history of dowry in India is almost as old as the Hindu religion itself. Dowry, before the negative connotations of today, was a gift from the bride's family to a newly married couple. It was to compensate the groom for the additional expenses he would incur taking care of his stay-at-home bride and eventually their family.

Although different commodities were used to pay dowry, gold was the preferred option simply because it was easily safeguarded and widely accepted. The practice of giving gold and jewels as dowry continues to this day.

Another offshoot of the rich tradition of gold in the Hindu religion explains why Indians mark every auspicious and festive occasion with the purchase of a token amount of gold. Parents with daughters begin accumulating gold in small quantities yearly on these occasions, in anticipation of their daughters' weddings.

Other Contemporary Reasons for Gold Ownership
The above historical and cultural reasons explain the long-entrenched practice among Indians of acquiring gold. This practice continued into contemporary times despite India having a unified currency since 1857, when the British acquired complete control of the country. This was primarily because of the continued struggles for the average Indian, first under imperial Britain and then under socialist India.

Since India's independence, the country has followed a socialist economic policy, with the government running constant deficits to fund its five-year plans. Needless to say, these plans have proved very inefficient, resulting in plenty of wastage and constantly increasing prices.

India's disastrous 1962 war with China severely depleted India's foreign reserves and removed the backing for the rupee. To prevent a massive flight out of the rupee, the government established the Gold Control Act in 1962, forbidding private ownership of gold bullion and mandating the conversion of all private gold bullion into gold jewelry. This prevented the rise of an alternate currency if the rupee should flounder.

"Marginal tax rates hit a scarcely believable 95 percent and the rupee's value declined steadily."
As with all government intrusions, this law had unintended consequences. Because licenses were required to hold gold bullion, many goldsmiths not connected to the establishment lost their livelihoods overnight. The prohibition also gave rise to gold smuggling and a huge black market in gold, which no doubt claimed many lives and livelihoods.

Further, in 1969, the Indian government under Indira Gandhi nationalized the banks and mandated licenses for almost everything. This was the beginning of the "License Raj" in India, which instituted rampant corruption in all levels of the bureaucracy. Since the state controlled all the banks, loans were made to special sectors just to buy votes.

The 1970s were an even more tumultuous period politically in India. A state of emergency was declared from 1975 to 1977, giving almost dictatorial powers to Indira Gandhi. When democracy was restored in 1977, Ms. Gandhi was ousted by Morarji Desai. However, the common man still couldn't catch a break, as marginal tax rates hit a scarcely believable 95 percent and the rupee's value declined steadily.

In light of these circumstances, gold was the average Indian's best friend. Due to a ban on gold, the value of gold in relation to other commodities and the rupee soared. The high marginal tax rate gave rise to a huge black market. Citizens needed a way to hide and protect their assets from the taxman, and gold was one of the two asset classes that proved effective for doing so (the other being real estate).

One last reason why extensive gold holdings are prudent in today's context is the paltry level of insurance provided to bank deposits. A fractional reserve banking system is inherently insolvent and needs government insurance to prevent a run on deposits. In India, the amount covered under deposit insurance is just Rs100,000, which is only $2,170. In contrast, federal deposit insurance in the United States was recently increased from $100,000 to $250,000.

To put things in perspective, Rs100,000 is about 5 months rent for a decent, three-bedroom apartment in Bangalore, whereas $250,000 US is four or five year's worth of living expenses for a couple in Chicago, including a mortgage or rent. In other words, Rs100,000 is an insignificant sum of money.

Realizing that the banking system is shaky, because of the low level of insurance and the fractional-reserve system, many savvy consumers hedge by holding a portion of their savings in gold. Moreover, millions of people in rural India completely bypass the banking system because they don't understand it and prefer to hold their savings in gold. When in need of money in a crunch, they pledge their gold with a local money lender in return for currency.

In summation, India's ancient and deep religious traditions, combined with a plethora of historical, cultural, and practical reasons, have fostered an unflinching desire to acquire gold as a means of protecting one's wealth. In this light, one can hardly dismiss this desire as irrational. Given what's in store for the world at large when the inevitable currency crisis occurs, citizens from other countries could do worse than to take a leaf out of India's history with gold.
 
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