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20 most decisive battles of the world.

Battle of Yarmouk

I have no doubt in saying that it was the most decisive battle in the history of mankind, it was almost a impossible victory for the Muslim Army.

May ALLAH be pleased with Syedna Khalib Bin Waleed, What a great warrior he was.
 
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Ridiculous thermopylae is in no way a decisive battle...salamis saved greece not thermopylae .As far the persian army was concerned it was a costly skirmish.
The effect of the 3rd crusade is marginal.

Battle of britain i already included.
Kursk is a decisive battle ,but witha 20 restricted list i couldn't find space for it having already added moscow and stalingrad which are more decisive.
Salher another no entry...maratha victory irrelevant because their conquests would eventually be rolled back at panipat...and then the british.It can be said to be one of the causes of the downfall of the mughal empire.But global impact is still lacking.Outside the subcontinent did this battle affect anything?..no.

@liquid


'The key battle of the second punic war,ensures roman victory and survival and then subsequent domination of the world.
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Well,rome did go on to rule most of the world did it not?
At its zenith it was rome,parthia[though during trajan parthia was reduced to near vassal status]india,china..thats it.The rest nomads and tribes.
 
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Battle of Yarmouk

I have no doubt in saying that it was the most decisive battle in the history of mankind, it was almost a impossible victory for the Muslim Army.

May ALLAH be pleased with Syedna Khalib Bin Waleed, What a great warrior he was.

I tend to agree..certainly among the top 3 most decisive battles.

Khalid doesn't get the press he deserves..heavy western bias.It is also due to the inability of scholars from arab world to properly promote his successes or his tactical brilliance[and when done so along with a host of other overrated guys like saladin,qasim,tariq ibn ziyad who are not anywhere near his league overall diminishing his importance] ,Also most books and documentaries on him are packed with heavy religious zeal which somewhat sideline his tactical mastery.besides the fact that it is not liked in the west that a muslim military genius on par with the greats.
Therefore whenever top 3 comes up u get caesar, alexander and napoleon,followed by hannibal but khalid is nowhere to be seen.Neither is subotai...though subotai remains the only one to conquer russia in winter.
 
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I tend to agree..certainly among the top 3 most decisive battles.

Khalid doesn't get the press he deserves..heavy western bias.It is also due to the inability of scholars from arab world to properly promote his successes or his tactical brilliance[and when done so along with a host of other overrated guys like saladin,qasim,tariq ibn ziyad who are not anywhere near his league overall diminishing his importance] ,Also most books and documentaries on him are packed with heavy religious zeal which somewhat sideline his tactical mastery.besides the fact that it is not liked in the west that a muslim military genius on par with the greats.
Therefore whenever top 3 comes up u get caesar, alexander and napoleon,followed by hannibal but khalid is nowhere to be seen.Neither is subotai...though subotai remains the only one to conquer russia in winter.

Here's a video brother, a detail documentary on his career as the Warrior for Islam, not so much religious stuff, good graphics, Real actors, not the animation lol :)

 
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No Offence!! But a Decisive Battle in the subcontinent is yet to come!!
 
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Battle of Yarmouk

I have no doubt in saying that it was the most decisive battle in the history of mankind, it was almost a impossible victory for the Muslim Army.

May ALLAH be pleased with Syedna Khalib Bin Waleed, What a great warrior he was.

I tend to agree..certainly among the top 3 most decisive battles.

Khalid doesn't get the press he deserves..heavy western bias.It is also due to the inability of scholars from arab world to properly promote his successes or his tactical brilliance[and when done so along with a host of other overrated guys like saladin,qasim,tariq ibn ziyad who are not anywhere near his league overall diminishing his importance] ,Also most books and documentaries on him are packed with heavy religious zeal which somewhat sideline his tactical mastery.besides the fact that it is not liked in the west that a muslim military genius on par with the greats.
Therefore whenever top 3 comes up u get caesar, alexander and napoleon,followed by hannibal but khalid is nowhere to be seen.Neither is subotai...though subotai remains the only one to conquer russia in winter.

@UmEr Rajput : would it be possible to explain why? What was distinctive about Khalid bin Waleed's tactics? His strategy? Any detail at all, other than that mentioned by you earlier?
 
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No Offence!! But a Decisive Battle in the subcontinent is yet to come!!

That isn't true.

There have been decisive battles, many of them, provided that we understand that these were decisive for the sub-continent. Similarly, there have been battles in China, Korea, south-east Asia and Japan, which too were decisive within those strategic areas. However, it is not right to talk about battles which cannot be described in reasonable detail, which are known only in terms of the antagonists, and sometimes, not even that in much clarity. That is why it isn't useful to talk about these battles.

A second reason is that events in these areas did not directly affect the events of the area connected to the western world, which is what serves as the touchstone of acceptability for most historical considerations. What is commonly accepted - and this is wrong - is events, and battles which affected Europe, the north African shoreland opposite the Mediterranean, the Russian hinterland, all the way up until the Aral Sea, the middle East, including Anatolia, Armenia and the Caucasus, Arabia, Persia and Afghanistan.

There is no point in wishing that things were different. This is how things are in reality.

So decisive battles in the sub-continent, great battles on the sub-continent, and strategic campaigns on the sub-continent are none of them likely to be reported along with others of their kind. Not because they have not occurred, but because of these reasons above.

I hope that this will illustrate the practical difficulties of thinking with your heart rather than with your brains. Try a change; the first couple of times, it may be painful, but after getting used to it, a wonderful world of the intellect will emerge. You will not regret it.
 
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Tameem
No Offence!! But a Decisive Battle in the subcontinent is yet to come!!

That isn't true.

There have been decisive battles, many of them, provided that we understand that these were decisive for the sub-continent. Similarly, there have been battles in China, Korea, south-east Asia and Japan, which too were decisive within those strategic areas. However, it is not right to talk about battles which cannot be described in reasonable detail, which are known only in terms of the antagonists, and sometimes, not even that in much clarity. That is why it isn't useful to talk about these battles.

A second reason is that events in these areas did not directly affect the events of the area connected to the western world, which is what serves as the touchstone of acceptability for most historical considerations. What is commonly accepted - and this is wrong - is events, and battles which affected Europe, the north African shoreland opposite the Mediterranean, the Russian hinterland, all the way up until the Aral Sea, the middle East, including Anatolia, Armenia and the Caucasus, Arabia, Persia and Afghanistan.

There is no point in wishing that things were different. This is how things are in reality.

So decisive battles in the sub-continent, great battles on the sub-continent, and strategic campaigns on the sub-continent are none of them likely to be reported along with others of their kind. Not because they have not occurred, but because of these reasons above.

I hope that this will illustrate the practical difficulties of thinking with your heart rather than with your brains. Try a change; the first couple of times, it may be painful, but after getting used to it, a wonderful world of the intellect will emerge. You will not regret it.

You completely miss read the post of Tameem, written under the religious furor (nothing else), alluding to prediction of great war, Ghazwa-tul-Hind, the biggest and most destructive, yet to come.
I had already read your this post (Joe Shearer) before your post no.35 in Top 10 greatest tactical and strategic masterpieces thread.
 
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Siege of Constantinople 717–718. Had Arabs conquered Constantinople the half of Europe including Russia would be Muslim today (Russia converted to Orthodox Christianity under Byzantine incluence only in 988).
 
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Battle of Pratapgarh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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IMO battle of Badar, even though minor as the battles go, was also one of the most decisive battles. Just imagine what would have happened if our holy Prophet (PBUH) had lost!! There would be no Muslims today.

Result of this small battle changed face of the world.
 
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In my opinion the Battle of Guadalete fought on July 19 AD 711 should be included in this list.

In this battle Tariq Bin Ziyad defeated King Roderic hence paving the way for muslims to conquer Spain and Europe.
 
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Tariq ibn ziyad's victory was irrelevant in the long term,the arab armies never conquered europe..only southern spain permanently.They were later reconquered during the spanish reconquista..hence there was no lasting impact of te islamic invasion of spain.Today's spanish culture have no trace of it and religion is strictly catholic.
 
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Battle of Chattanooga 1863

great tactical battle it wouldnt make the list but if the North had lost the civil war may have ended differently, certain dragged on longer.

Might have put it in place of Saratoga.
 
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