2 Russian pilots killed as ISIS shoots down chopper near Palmyra – MoD

[500]

The aircraft flies forward. If the rocket does not ignite, it would be stationary in the air and flying backwards relative to the aircraft. As a Jew, Einstein would be ashamed of your IQ. Relativity. Remember.

LOL


Mi-35M shot down by ISIS:

Cobra shot down by MANPADS:

They are virtually the same.

 

[ultron]

LOL


Mi-35M shot down by ISIS:

Cobra shot down by MANPADS:

They are virtually the same.

Ocean water and river water look the same. Completely different. Try drinking them.

 

[Penguin]

If this is a Mi-35M, which the fixed landing gear and short winglets suggest, the implication is that it is flown operationally in combat by Russians.

 

[ultron]

If this is a Mi-35M, which the fixed landing gear and short winglets suggest, the implication is that it is flown operationally in combat by Russians.

Not necessarily. SAA has been known to operate T-90 tanks leased from Russians.

 

[neem456]

China is smart not to get involved but they should get 'involved'. Maybe not in the sense of full on invasion or involvement but China should be cashing in on flying their drones covertly and getting some drone/military experience in. Meanwhile bombing some ISIS never hurts either. Just don't bomb the dams, electrical grids or poison the water system and you should be alright

Yes china should test their shinny drones in that part of the world.
While we are at that india should test there tejas.
And whoever other wants can test their weapons n this god forbidden part of earth, Very good !

 

[Penguin]

Not necessarily. SAA has been known to operate T-90 tanks leased from Russians.

NECESSARILY.

Reported: two russian pilots killed. See post 1

Russia to respond to Mi-35 helicopter shoot-down in Syria
11.07.2016 | Source: Pravda.Ru

On Friday, July 8th, militants of the Islamic State terrorist group downed the Mi-35M helicopter of the aerospace forces of the Russian Federation.

The helicopter was on a combat mission near Palmyra. Two pilots - Colonel Ryafagat Habibullin and Lt. Yevgeny Dolgin were killed in the crash.

http://www.pravdareport.com/news/hotspots/terror/11-07-2016/134976-russia_helicopter_syria-0/

Around 40 Mi-24s were delivered to the SyAAF and survivors were overhauled and upgraded in Eastern Europe in the last four years. These were augmented by at least 13 Mi-25s that were delivered in 2008.

http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/syria/summary

Mi-35
The export version of the Mi-24V
Mi-35M
Night attack version, is fitted with upgraded advanced avionics and sensor package, including night vision systems, GOES-342 electro-optical range finder/targeting system, GLONASS/GPS navigation system, electronic multifunction displays, onboard computer, and jam-proof communications equipment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24_variants

I suspect that for a pilot or WSO, it is not a direct switch from Mi-24/25 to Mi-35M...

Mi-24/25 cockpit

Mi-35(P) cockpit

Mi-35M cockpit.

These cannot get near enough in the desert to shoot at a Mi-35M. It was a friendly fire or an ammo malfunction IMO.

S-60 / Type 59 57mm cannon

Effective firing range
6,000 m (20,000 ft) (radar guided)
4,000 m (13,000 ft) (optically guided)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZP_S-60
http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/s-60.htm

Max Ballistic Range 9,210 yards (8,420 m)
Self-destruct Range 7,600 yards (6,950 m)
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_57mm-78_zif-31.htm
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_57mm-81_zif-71.htm

the weapon is particularly effective against flow-flying target at altitudes between 450m and 1,500m.

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4189.html

 

[ultron]

NECESSARILY.

Reported: two russian pilots killed. See post 1


http://www.pravdareport.com/news/hotspots/terror/11-07-2016/134976-russia_helicopter_syria-0/


http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/syria/summary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24_variants

I suspect it is not a direct switch from Mi-24/25 to Mi-35M...

Mi-35M cockpit.

Effective firing range
6,000 m (20,000 ft) (radar guided)
4,000 m (13,000 ft) (optically guided)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZP_S-60
http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/s-60.htm

Max Ballistic Range 9,210 yards (8,420 m)
Self-destruct Range 7,600 yards (6,950 m)
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_57mm-78_zif-31.htm
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_57mm-81_zif-71.htm


http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4189.html

Mi-35 is export designation of Mi-24V. Mi-35M is upgraded from Mi-35. Only Mi-35M has unretractable undercarriage.

 

[Penguin]

Mi-35 is export designation of Mi-24V. Mi-35M is upgraded from Mi-35. Only Mi-35M has unretractable undercarriage.

That IS what I posted in post #51 and post #48. So, what point are you trying to make? That I initially didn't include the Mi-35 in the cockpit comparison?