2 Bomb Blasts reported in Parachanaar...

[Kabira]

Parachinar is such a easy target for terrorists coming from Afghanistan and only shia majority town in FATA. They couldn't have asked for better place to bomb every few months in Pakistan.

21st Jan - 30 killed
31st March - 35 killed
25th April - 18 killed
23rd June - 100+ killed

 

[BATMAN]

our state is unable to safeguard its people.

No state can protect soft targets. For terrorist's to succeed, what is required is resources and willingness.
If this mafia style community already knows that they will be attacked during certain gatherings, than they should take measures to not expose them self.
State anyway has its hands more than full. I will not hold state responsible for any of it. Only way state can protect them is by banning all religious / mafia style gatherings in public places, but any such banning would also invite criticism.
Blaming Pak state in foreign countries, protesting against state, is an anti-state act and invites only resentment from few nationalists Pakistan have.
Here's what CoAS has to say about the culprits: http://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com/news/terror-surge-sponsored-nds-raw-army/
While I have been stating this since ever. Now I demand the explanation from those, who had been misleading the nation until !!!!! What was their motive? perhaps, cover-up of criminal activities RAW/NDS! but upon whom's instructions!

 

[HAIDER]

So, when in June 1963 over 100 Shias were killed in Tehri village (in Khairpur district of Sindh), it was not an act of terrorism ? What about the attacks on Tazia processions that took place in 1960s and 70s?, or the Gilgit massacre of 1988 ?

Sectarian outfits targeting and killing each other's leadership is a different thing .. But why attack innocent people ? why attack mosques and religious gatherings ? And why every time such terrorist attacks are carried out, 'the terrorists' belong to one particular sect, and the victims to the others ?

Again, please quote a few examples when Wahhabi/Deobandi mosques and religious gatherings were attacked by terrorists .... Why deny facts ?


And as you mentioned Arif Hussaini of Parachinar, the Shia leader of Turi Pashtuns and the founder of Tehrik-e-Jafaria Pakistan, he was killed in Peshawar in 1988 by a serving Army Officer. Also, the 'other' person on the motorcycle with the notorious terrorist Riaz Basra when he killed the Iranian Consul General Sadiq Ganji in Lahore in 1990, was reportedly an ISI official named Athar (Pakistan's drift into extremism: Allah, the army and America's War on Terror, 2005). It's not without reason that the Pakistani Establishment has been accused of patronizing and supporting anti-Shia sectarianism.

Actually we have lot of Lashker e jhagvi lover who 24/7 justify shia killing in this forum. Look at the format of some poster, when any news broke out against Shia , they try to affiliate Iran from somewhere unknown source and justify the killing. Pakistani shia been killed and non of victim ever receive any justice. Shia killed and Iran got the blame , but victims never receive the justice. Because blaming others is national game.

Dear target killingvwas also happening in 1980 for both shia and Sunnis outfits araf Al husani to janghvi both were targeting each other leadership and followers but terrorism at this level started after Iraq invasion and reached peak in Syrian war


The correct term I used for 80 and 90 clash was persecution not terrorism

I don't know who killed by shia , from where you got all those idea. But, I can give you list of Shia been massacred in Pakistan and still shia killing is going on. Some media claim 6 Pakistani shia went to Syria, but how many wahabi went to Syira,Libya and rest of the world. Whole Syria is polluted by Wahabi they enter Syria under the cover of FSA. How come FSA disappeared and only ISIS and Alqaida left in Syria.
Till 2015 every terrorism news publish in the world was directly or indirectly linked with Pakistan. Whole world is not crazy and few Pakistanis are not smarty pants. Even Suadis now pointing finger at Pakistan for local and global terrorism.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

No state can protect soft targets. For terrorist's to succeed, what is required is resources and willingness.
If this mafia style community already knows that they will be attacked during certain gatherings, than they should take measures to not expose them self.
State anyway has its hands more than full. I will not hold state responsible for any of it. Only way state can protect them is by banning all religious / mafia style gatherings in public places, but any such banning would also invite criticism.
Blaming Pak state in foreign countries, protesting against state, is an anti-state act and invites only resentment from few nationalists Pakistan have.
Here's what CoAS has to say about the culprits: http://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com/news/terror-surge-sponsored-nds-raw-army/

state and its citizens have a contract where the citizen abides by its rules its constitution pays taxes and the state in turn is responsible for the safety and well being of its citizens
terrorists and their acts are not an excuse but a failure.
under our special circumstances I agree that Beralvi and shia followers must either tone down their gathering and processions or be prepared for the worse if its about their life vs faith. but state cant be complicit and passive.. it has to go after the terrorists.
re the attack on you in Lahore I hope you came better off and the culprits were brought to justice. regardless of the faith I would have blamed the inspector for his failure to keep law and order which is his mandate and responsibility in his area of operation.

 

[BATMAN]

state and its citizens have a contract where the citizen abides by its rules its constitution pays taxes and the state in turn is responsible for the safety and well being of its citizens
terrorists and their acts are not an excuse but a failure.

In such case, even US is a failed state.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

In such case, even US is a failed state.

I dont give a flying fck to any other country but only care about Pakistan

we got a chip in our armor and we got to guard it and defeat the attackers

 

[BATMAN]

I agree that Beralvi and shia followers must either tone down their gathering and processions or be prepared for the worse if its about their life vs faith

FAITH has NOTHING to do with show time.
Every one in Pakistan is free to believe but every belief can't be termed as FAITH in Islam.
Otherwise, only Pakistanis are Muslims and rest of the world is not, which is as crazy a belief as organizing rock concert in the name of Islam and declaring it FAITH.

For the second part, how about start paying Zakat in Pakistan, before demanding extra from state!

I dont give a flying fck to any other country but only care about Pakistan

we got a chip in our armor and we got to guard it and defeat the attackers

Here you are impractical.

As compare to (example)US, our security institutions are surrounded with enemies.

I would have blamed the inspector for his failure to keep law

It was above inspector... DSP was main culprit. He edited the CCTV footage, where attackers could have been identified.
We lost an acquaintance, who unfortunately asked for driving the car.
Attackers were tasked to kill the driver, and that's the short miracle of my survival.
In the process, I discovered new Pakistan, where free speech can earn you hateful enemies.

 

[jacklord]

So, when in June 1963 over 100 Shias were killed in Tehri village (in Khairpur district of Sindh), it was not an act of terrorism ? What about the attacks on Tazia processions that took place in 1960s and 70s?, or the Gilgit massacre of 1988 ?

Sectarian outfits targeting and killing each other's leadership is a different thing .. But why attack innocent people ? why attack mosques and religious gatherings ? And why every time such terrorist attacks are carried out, 'the terrorists' belong to one particular sect, and the victims to the others ?

Again, please quote a few examples when Wahhabi/Deobandi mosques and religious gatherings were attacked by terrorists .... Why deny facts ?


And as you mentioned Arif Hussaini of Parachinar, the Shia leader of Turi Pashtuns and the founder of Tehrik-e-Jafaria Pakistan, he was killed in Peshawar in 1988 by a serving Army Officer. Also, the 'other' person on the motorcycle with the notorious terrorist Riaz Basra when he killed the Iranian Consul General Sadiq Ganji in Lahore in 1990, was reportedly an ISI official named Athar (Pakistan's drift into extremism: Allah, the army and America's War on Terror, 2005). It's not without reason that the Pakistani Establishment has been accused of patronizing and supporting anti-Shia sectarianism.

If I follow your planned genocide theory that because state is failing to protect it means all state including Iran Iraq Syria afghanistan lebonan all are failed states because they also failed to protect shia civilians.please how come red zones like Khomeini Mazhar or parliament terrorists reached target oh it's not their fault just got lucky but Iran did not fail why Pakistani shia demand same accountability from iran govt.i think more shias are targeted in Afghanistan than Pakistan this Ramzan but still some foreign funded entitities in news and print media only maligning when all mentioned countries can have this excuse that they are at war then why not Pakistan cant be included in this exception list????

 

[M. Sarmad]

If I follow your planned genocide theory that because state is failing to protect it means all state including Iran Iraq Syria afghanistan lebonan all are failed states because they also failed to protect shia civilians.please how come red zones like Khomeini Mazhar or parliament terrorists reached target oh it's not their fault just got lucky but Iran did not fail why Pakistani suits demand same accountability from iran govt.

It's not "my" theory dear.


SHIA GENOCIDE: A CRISIS IN PAKISTAN
https://appgfreedomofreligionorbelief.org/media/UN-Report-Final.pdf

Pakistan's Shia genocide - Al Jazeera English
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/11/201211269131968565.html

UN chief deplores latest terrorist attack against Pakistan’s Shia community
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=44162#.WVBbI5KGPIU



Human Rights Commission of Pakistan

Shia pilgrims’ killing exposes state`s criminal negligence
http://hrcp-web.org/hrcpweb/shia-pilgrims-killing-exposes-states-criminal-negligence/

Pakistan: Arrest, Prosecute Sectarian Killers
http://hrcp-web.org/hrcpweb/pakistan-arrest-prosecute-sectarian-killers-2/


Asian Human Rights Commission:

PAKISTAN: Shia Genocide – Military and Militants– Feb 23, 2013
http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-ART-021-2013
https://www.ammado.com/nonprofit/108433/articles/76266

PAKISTAN: The AHRC condemns and protests against the calculated Shia extermination taking place in the country
http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-STM-015-2013/

PAKISTAN: Killings of Shiite Muslims under the very nose of the military -- the 'independent judiciary' turns a blind eye while the government continues its policy of appeasement-July 4, 2012
http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-STM-136-2012


Human Rights Watch (HRW)

Pakistan: Rampant Killings of Shia by Extremists
https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/06/29/pakistan-rampant-killings-shia-extremists

HRW pushes Pakistan to 'urgently' protect Shias
https://www.dawn.com/news/747450/hrw-pushes-pakistan-to-urgently-protect-shias

Pakistan: Shia Killings Escalate
https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/09/05/pakistan-shia-killings-escalate

Pakistan: Prevent Targeted Killings of Shia Muslims
https://www.hrw.org/news/2011/10/04/pakistan-prevent-targeted-killings-shia-muslims


Amnesty International

PAKISTAN: SHI’A KILLINGS FAILURE OF GOVERNMENT PROTECTION
https://www.amnesty.org/en/press-releases/2012/11/pakistan-shi-killings-failure-government-protection/

Amnesty International Report on Shia Genocide in Pakistan

 

[jacklord]

It's not "my" theory dear.


SHIA GENOCIDE: A CRISIS IN PAKISTAN
https://appgfreedomofreligionorbelief.org/media/UN-Report-Final.pdf

Pakistan's Shia genocide - Al Jazeera English
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/11/201211269131968565.html

UN chief deplores latest terrorist attack against Pakistan’s Shia community
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=44162#.WVBbI5KGPIU



Human Rights Commission of Pakistan

Shia pilgrims’ killing exposes state`s criminal negligence
http://hrcp-web.org/hrcpweb/shia-pilgrims-killing-exposes-states-criminal-negligence/

Pakistan: Arrest, Prosecute Sectarian Killers
http://hrcp-web.org/hrcpweb/pakistan-arrest-prosecute-sectarian-killers-2/


Asian Human Rights Commission:

PAKISTAN: Shia Genocide – Military and Militants– Feb 23, 2013
http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-ART-021-2013
https://www.ammado.com/nonprofit/108433/articles/76266

PAKISTAN: The AHRC condemns and protests against the calculated Shia extermination taking place in the country
http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-STM-015-2013/

PAKISTAN: Killings of Shiite Muslims under the very nose of the military -- the 'independent judiciary' turns a blind eye while the government continues its policy of appeasement-July 4, 2012
http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-STM-136-2012


Human Rights Watch (HRW)

Pakistan: Rampant Killings of Shia by Extremists
https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/06/29/pakistan-rampant-killings-shia-extremists

HRW pushes Pakistan to 'urgently' protect Shias
https://www.dawn.com/news/747450/hrw-pushes-pakistan-to-urgently-protect-shias

Pakistan: Shia Killings Escalate
https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/09/05/pakistan-shia-killings-escalate

Pakistan: Prevent Targeted Killings of Shia Muslims
https://www.hrw.org/news/2011/10/04/pakistan-prevent-targeted-killings-shia-muslims


Amnesty International

PAKISTAN: SHI’A KILLINGS FAILURE OF GOVERNMENT PROTECTION
https://www.amnesty.org/en/press-releases/2012/11/pakistan-shi-killings-failure-government-protection/

Amnesty International Report on Shia Genocide in Pakistan

Please Azlan then accept every where shia killed even in shia states also genocide just acknowledge shia killing everywhere is genocide not just pakistan

 

[BATMAN]

It's not "my" theory dear.


SHIA GENOCIDE: A CRISIS IN PAKISTAN
https://appgfreedomofreligionorbelief.org/media/UN-Report-Final.pdf

Pakistan's Shia genocide - Al Jazeera English
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/11/201211269131968565.html

UN chief deplores latest terrorist attack against Pakistan’s Shia community
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=44162#.WVBbI5KGPIU



Human Rights Commission of Pakistan

Shia pilgrims’ killing exposes state`s criminal negligence
http://hrcp-web.org/hrcpweb/shia-pilgrims-killing-exposes-states-criminal-negligence/

Pakistan: Arrest, Prosecute Sectarian Killers
http://hrcp-web.org/hrcpweb/pakistan-arrest-prosecute-sectarian-killers-2/


Asian Human Rights Commission:

PAKISTAN: Shia Genocide – Military and Militants– Feb 23, 2013
http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-ART-021-2013
https://www.ammado.com/nonprofit/108433/articles/76266

PAKISTAN: The AHRC condemns and protests against the calculated Shia extermination taking place in the country
http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-STM-015-2013/

PAKISTAN: Killings of Shiite Muslims under the very nose of the military -- the 'independent judiciary' turns a blind eye while the government continues its policy of appeasement-July 4, 2012
http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-STM-136-2012


Human Rights Watch (HRW)

Pakistan: Rampant Killings of Shia by Extremists
https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/06/29/pakistan-rampant-killings-shia-extremists

HRW pushes Pakistan to 'urgently' protect Shias
https://www.dawn.com/news/747450/hrw-pushes-pakistan-to-urgently-protect-shias

Pakistan: Shia Killings Escalate
https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/09/05/pakistan-shia-killings-escalate

Pakistan: Prevent Targeted Killings of Shia Muslims
https://www.hrw.org/news/2011/10/04/pakistan-prevent-targeted-killings-shia-muslims


Amnesty International

PAKISTAN: SHI’A KILLINGS FAILURE OF GOVERNMENT PROTECTION
https://www.amnesty.org/en/press-releases/2012/11/pakistan-shi-killings-failure-government-protection/

Amnesty International Report on Shia Genocide in Pakistan

This malafied dossier can surely earn you British /Australian immigration.
Where all beneficiaries can live happily after with beloved Indians, while hating Pakistan and Pakistanis.
I experience such nut cases everywhere in Europe and Australia.
I wonder, how much anti state their relatives... still living in Pakistan are!

Please Azlan then accept every where she's killed even in shia states also genocide just acknowledge show killing everywhere is genocide not just pakistan

This guy is not interested in believing the confession of Kolbhoshan Yadev.

Where I live, I see them as right hands of Indians. Let them be, he's just an account which is used to spread nonsense against Pakistan, while the patrons remain clear.

 

[M. Sarmad]

This malafied dossier can surely earn you British /Australian immigration.
Where all beneficiaries can live happily after with beloved Indians, while hating Pakistan and Pakistanis.
I experience such nut cases everywhere in Europe and Australia.
I wonder, how much anti state their relatives... still living in Pakistan are!

So, according to you,

Hating terrorism = Hating Pakistan

21 topon ki salami teri sauch ko jahil insan

 

[BATMAN]

So, according to you,

Hating terrorism = Hating Pakistan

21 topon ki salami teri sauch ko jahil insan

According to you blaming Pakistan state for any shia deaths is = hating terrorism.

Confession of Kulbhoshan Yadev has turned tables on your Imams and yet here you are copy pasting, what you submit for asylum!
This is your reality.. typical brainwashed character.

 

[M. Sarmad]

According to you blaming Pakistan state of shia deaths is = hating terrorism.
Confession of Kulbhoshan Yadev has turned tables on your Imams and yet here you are copy pasting, what you submit for asylum!
This is your reality.. typical brainwashed character.

Any counter arguments/facts ? I am not interested in your nonsense

And Just FYI, I live in Pakistan and I have no plans of moving to any other country. I, unlike you (and other terrorist sympathizers here), am not a hypocrite.

I have no Imam and I, unlike you, am not a hate filled sectarian bigot ... nor do I recognize myself with any sect ...

So shove your nonsense where the sun doesn't shine

 

[BATMAN]

Any counter arguments/facts ? I am not interested in your nonsense

And Just FYI, I live in Pakistan. I have no plans of moving out. I, unlike you(and many other terrorist sympathizers here), am not a hypocrite.

I have no Imam and I, unlike you, am not a hate filled sectarian bigot ... nor do I recognize myself with any sect ...

So shove your nonsense where the sun doesn't shine

If you had argument you'd take your case to Zardari instead of Al-Jazira.
Kulbhoshan Yadev statement clearly tells.... you team have been trying to cover-up RAW all the time.