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You got this perfectly upside down - what proof can you provide that god does exist?

Existence itself. It is you that has got it upside down. Also you need to look at Quantum theory to know that we as a solid physical universe do not exist. That this universe is a good simulation, a good projection of someone's dream.

Most socialists nowadays by the way are theists. Christianity is the fastest growing religion in China. Much of Russia is deeply religious.

Malayalee commies are regularly seen in churches and mosques.

Socialism is a watered down version of communism any which way. Russia is deeply religious now after the end of communism. It was a communist country when it was atheist too. Always a deep companionship between these two.

Malayalee commies for the most part are Hindus and not Christians or Muslims.
 
Existence itself. It is you that has got it upside down. Also you need to look at Quantum theory to know that we as a solid physical universe do not exist. That this universe is a good simulation, a good projection of someone's dream.
The universe is someone's dream?

Ok buddy...if you say so. Did you take your medications today?
 
Disgusting news, atheism is a bigger threat to India than Abrahamc faiths. They all seem to have some heightened sense of self worth and look down on believers.

Your kind is everything that is wrong with India currently!

You can be an atheist and still be a Hindu! Hinduism is not some rigid religion. In fact it's a group of philosophy!

Never heard of 'Nastik Hindus'. Hinduism is more of a cultural thing than some stringent set of rituals.
 
You got this perfectly upside down - what proof can you provide that god does exist?

Most socialists nowadays by the way are theists. Christianity is the fastest growing religion in China. Much of Russia is deeply religious.

Malayalee commies are regularly seen in churches and mosques.

God's existence is a Belief.

And like any belief, its not based on actual facts, but on faith. The same way you have "faith" in the US govt. and the media to "belive" that man has been to the moon.

No "rational thinker" believes only what he can "prove". He does not go around tasting "shit" to know it might taste bad. Ther are limits to "rational thinking" too. Best of rational thinkers do live out majority of their life in "good faith'.

So to claim "Atheist" are not "believers" is wrong and is in fact an elaborate Lie. They just believe in something else.
 
God's existence is a Belief.

And like any belief, its not based on actual facts, but on faith. The same way you have "faith" in the US govt. and the media to "belive" that man has been to the moon.

No "rational thinker" believes only what he can "prove". He does not go around tasting "shit" to know it might taste bad. Ther are limits to "rational thinking" too. Best of rational thinkers do live out majority of their life in "good faith'.

So to claim "Atheist" are not "believers" is wrong and is in fact an elaborate Lie. They just believe in something else.
Atheist weigh the proof and make a call on the "probability" of something being true or not. It is obviously not possible to prove or disprove something that any human being can know for definite fact only after death so neither theist nor atheists can provide definitive proof. what can be done is to weigh the arguments for and against and come up with the most likely, most PROBABLE scenario. Based on latest current knowledge the probability is " fill in the blank with whatever".
 
Atheist weigh the proof and make a call on the "probability" of something being true or not. It is obviously not possible to prove or disprove something that any human being can know for definite fact only after death so neither theist nor atheists can provide definitive proof. what can be done is to weigh the arguments for and against and come up with the most likely, most PROBABLE scenario. Based on latest current knowledge the probability is " fill in the blank with whatever".

LOL...... this is a logical fallacy of your own making.

Probability is relevant ONLY for Statistical evidence. Since Rationalist do not go around gather statistical evidence for anything, their belief cannot be based on Probability, only on Faith.

After weighing the arguments, one finds them to be inconclusive, then its Faith and belief that decides the matter, not rational thought. :disagree:

Since Rationalist cannot conclusively prove the reason for existence and since unified string theory is not yet available, your reality is just another "belief".

You fill in the blanks with with your prejudices and desires and call it Rationality. Go figure.
 
After weighing the arguments, one finds them to be inconclusive, then its Faith and belief that decides the matter, not rational thought. :disagree:

No an atheists stops right there. It is religious people who make the leap into belief.
 
Yeah, you want to ignore the atheists deeds of big hugely populous countries and attach on to the teats of tiny puny Scandinavian countries to fuel your delusions? By the way none of the Scandinavian countries are constitutionally atheists. They are for the most part constitutional monarchies. So much for classifying them as atheist countries.

What else could really have been expected from illiterate lying sons of biitches like yourself??You have basically no idea what you are talking about,heck,you can't even tell a communist dictator state from an actual atheist one,yet you speak with such a position of authority!!Get a education,a proper education from some reputed college that has got a grant from the UGC and not the Grand RSS College of Brain-farts and Shit-Talk,you fuckking moron!!



Rant does not substitute for reasoned argument.
So true.But all you presented were nothing more than some ill researched unsubstantiated irrational arguments and guess what??Merely crying at the top of your lungs and wild breast thumping won't turn those into facts!!And that's exactly how one should reply to some piss poor, no-brainer arguments as I did to yours - that with counter ranting!!It's the universal method of replying to moron and imbeciles,not unlike yourself.
But still,Since clearly you are an illiterate village bum,with no real education to show for,your hole 'knowledge' on this subject is merely a cosmetic one,allow me to give you some "reasoned argument"s,REAL "reasoned argument"s ,as to why did Stalin and other Communist leaders acted in that manner.

Ok,now why did Stalin killed so many Christians??
It's funny how people like you always utter shit like"Stalin's a Communist, therefore Atheists would slaughter untold millions if they came to power!",totally disregarding the fact that Stalin himself was not even an atheist to begin with!!For the nth time,it's now an well established fact,that Stalin was indeed a Greek Orthodox Christian and remain one till he died!!And even if he were to be an atheist,under no circumstance can anybody demonstrate or proof how a lack of belief in god would lead somebody to start killing people. It doesn't make sense.
Because Stalin was brutal, power-hungry dictator who seemed to think that preserving Russian power and prestige depended on consolidating the party's power base, and held himself to be the linchpin and foundation of the party. He was nothing more than a maniac, and a man like him deserves no seat at any table I'd ever eat at. That he was an Atheist means nothing...not to me, not to him, and not to his contemporaries.
Because,Stalin was likely a paranoid schizophrenic, coupled with a severe lack of patience and an overwhelming amount of power, Staling killed in the name of Stalin and Stalinism, not because of any religious belief or lack thereof. People who assert otherwise are simply being dishonest...which is nothing new for the religious people.

Because,His actions were totally in the service of the Party and himself. Although they called themselves "Communists", by that time they were no longer true communists, but instead a totalitarian regime in place only to keep themselves in power and prestige.
Stalin's actions were not motivated by religion (or lack thereof), or economic ideology, but purely through selfish greed for material wealth and power.

Because,he was a power hungry bastard,who was also sickly paranoid to his very core.Basically,he trusted no one,his sole intention was to ensure absolute control over the whole of Soviet Union.But by 1917,by the time when the Tsars fell,the Russian Orthodox church had become almost as powerful as the Tsar himself,with significant political clouts in every fields - no wonder Stalin couldn't stand those Bishops and churches,because it created a second point of power,which ,obviously was totally unacceptable to a dictator like Stalin.
The church was seen as competition for the state or communist philosophy. At the time the church had wielded enormous influence and power over state and accrued vast wealth. This was in direct competition and a threat to communist policy. Many were killed as a result but not nearly as many who were victims of what are purely economic and political agendas that he held plotted to achieve consolidation of his power.

And lastly,because,he was nuts!! He used to cut out pictures of children and glue them on the walls and never sleep in the same bed twice. He had a general who's sole job was to sit at a desk near Stalin's office so that Stalin could pour out a bottle of ink and rub the guys face in it if he felt like it. It's a fools errand to try to figure out why crazy people do crazy stuff. You can't reason out the unreasoning mind.

And as for the question,why one can not compare the Communist" states with atheistic ones,
Because Structurally, if you dissect Communism (and Stalinism, which doesn't look very Marxist in application), it's very religious. It just replaces "god" with the state,the Party,the Ruler himself.The 'supreme leader' (The Politburo in case of China ) People are nothing; the state is everything...The state is watching you...the people must sacrifice themselves for the greater good...the state's will be done... you name it, Communism takes it. China never lost the "mandate of heaven" mentality; they just started calling it "the will of the people as determined by the party." So Communism in itself is a replication of existing religions,where the god in the later is only substituted by the Supreme Leader!!
Because,Communism of the period was nominally atheist not because the leaders believed that to be true, but because they found it to be a useful position from which to attack the existing Church's powers and influence.
Beyond that, Stalin did nothing in the "name of atheism", he did everything that he did in the name of pure and naked power... for himself and then for his political party.
And because,Communism is an absolute ideology, so any form of religion would be seen as competition. This makes them atheists by default, but their overall system is more like a religion. Look at the way they even tried to hijack science (causing famine, etc.). I think communism further supports the argument against ideologies that do not yield to evidence. Associating them with atheism is simply guilt by association (a fallacy). Associating communists with the mindset of the religious is a much easier charge to make stick. The motto "from each according to his ability, to each according to need" that is associated with communism comes out of the Catholic monasteries. A thoughtful, politically unconcerned atheist would never be a communist.
So one,who actually knows and actually understands this shit and can't and won't never really compare an atheist state with a Communist one.But then again,you are not really a very knowledgeable person in any sense,you are merely a religious apologetic scum.



Oh really!! The present day Hindus had a woman for PM, President, Chief Ministers, actresses, stars, sportswomen, gurus, professionals, blue collar labors, long before any atheist could figure out woman empowerment.

So what??Just because there have been a few and far between exceptions here and there,you can't just ignore the galactic flaws in that system!!Even Muslim states have got female leaders,actresses,sports persons,media persons,fashion models,blue collar workers,so what ??What fucking difference does it make??Those are just exceptions and exceptions only proves the norm!!Visit any rural part of India for a change,you fucking retarded brain dead religious dinosaur!!
You can take your peer reviewed evidence and stuff it up where the sun does not shine which is where it belongs.
Oh I most definitely will my dog!!I most definitely will.You know where am I gonna stuff it up??I'm gonna stuff it up your stinking hairy *** with a fuckking bamboo poll and keep sticking it up until you starts to squeal like a fuckking rat,then I'm gonna shove it up some more,till it comes out of your stinking mouth;then I'll just break your skull and shove it into that pile of cow dung you have got for your brain and then glue your skull shut again with ox semen,Kapeesh??

You mean the universe as it exists is not a proof of supernatural?
Hahahahahahahaha,oh my belly,it's gonna burst!!HeheheheheHahahahahaha,what the fuckk did I just fuckking read??Are you for serious??Are you sure you are not on medication my dog?? :D :D

Your disbelief in supernatural in fact BELIEF.
Yeah yeah,the same way not collecting stamps is also a hobby and abstinence is a sex position,right?? :D :D

Belief that you want to stuff down people's throat. If you are an example of atheists, then atheists are a sorry breed indeed. You are neither an example of free thinking nor an example of good education. All you are is a cunt.

We do not even have a belief to begin with,so there is no question of stuffing it down someone's throat.But yeah,I can stuff my dick down your throat if you want me to. :D :D

Stop foaming at your mouth idiot.
Who's foaming??That's your job,dog.And a relitard imbecile calling a Physics grad an idiot - PDF never gets boring.
There are any number of examples of scientists being enamored of vedas and Upanishads.
Yes,only to be ridiculed by the whole scientific community and then weeping like bitches afterwards.Tell me more please.
Only Bengali morons like you live in gutter of ignorance by choice.
Oh please,a half Mallu and half Maratha abomination like you is least qualified to make such a remark,you bitch.Go bark to your master like a good bitch,go on now........... :D



That is some argument dickhead. As if every religious guy is a mass murderer.
No one said that.But it's you who claim every one atheist is a potential mass murder,by citing your usual bullshiit 'examples' of Stalin and Hitler and all.I guess you had been fuckked by some atheist real hard sometimes,that explains the hate of yours towards that group.



Yup, we all know about the utopia atheists have created everywhere they exist.
The 'utopia' that atheists has created is far far far better than your kind can ever dream to build.

Your post just proved my earlier argument that religious people like you are far weaker than their atheist counterparts - both mentally and intellectually. And to be placed in the same sentence with you people is outright ignominious to us.

LOL.... he stops where ?

Does he say he DOES NOT KNOW IF there is God or does he say There is No God and those who believe in him are Fools and Murderers ? :lol:
Three words - get an education!!Seriously,get an education,you drastically need it.Cause you can not even differentiate between atheists and anti theists!!In my life,I've never come across an atheist who uttered such a claim!!All we ever said was that there is simply no evidence to suggest the god or anything super natural actually exists.You deliver the evidence and we will accept it.
But no,you have to open your mouth without trying to find out what is what and make a fool of yourself in the process.............typical religious retard.No wonder you people have such low iq.

hell yeah!!!! 2.87 mill -my people...............

Nothing to hell yeah,still too few of us.............in this country I mean. :(

God's existence is a Belief.
No shiit!!Well,at least you got that part right.10 points for Mr Obvious.

And like any belief, its not based on actual facts, but on faith. The same way you have "faith" in the US govt. and the media to "belive" that man has been to the moon.
What a piss poor analogy,but what better can be expected from a apologetic fool anyway?? Do you even realize that there are actual,scientific,peer-review-able evidence to support "the faith that man has been to the moon."??But then again,what better.............

No "rational thinker" believes only what he can "prove". He does not go around tasting "shit" to know it might taste bad. Ther are limits to "rational thinking" too. Best of rational thinkers do live out majority of their life in "good faith'.
Again,another pis-poor analogy which doesn't hold any water.One doesn't need to actually taste one's shit to know it's bad.It can be easily deduced logically from the fact that,faeces is the waste product from one's digestive tract coupled to its foul smell and slimy appearance and many other of its properties.But can we say the same about God or anything super natural??I guess not,so your argument only belongs to your asshole,where you pulled it out of and where it should be shoved back up pronto,cause it stinks!!

So to claim "Atheist" are not "believers" is wrong and is in fact an elaborate Lie. They just believe in something else.
Sure sure,atheists are believers of the highest level,JUST LIKE ABSTINENCE IS A SEX POSITION AND NOT COLLECTING STAMPS,OR NOT READING NOVELS ARE ALSO HOBBIES,RIGHT?? :D :D
 
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Three words - get an education!!Seriously,get an education,you drastically need it.Cause you can not even differentiate between atheists and anti theists!!In my life,I've never come across an atheist who uttered such a claim!!All we ever said was that there is simply no evidence to suggest the god or anything super natural actually exists.You deliver the evidence and we will accept it.

LOL. Take your own worthless advice and relook at your own posts.

Since Faith is based on Belief, where is the scope for "evidence" ? :lol: ...... however since your claim to follow evidence and you cannot find evidence of god nor of his absence, You have no authority to make any claim, except boldly claim you DO NOT KNOW.

Now since Hinduism is not based on "revelation" but on actual "experience" which is called darsana, you are required to do an enquire into the practice to determine if its true or not. So let me know when you are free of your prejudice and keep an open mind in discovering the existence of "god". :lol: ..... you wanted the evidence, which is what ALL Hindus are required to find and work towards.

But no,you have to open your mouth without trying to find out what is what and make a fool of yourself in the process.............typical religious retard.No wonder you people have such low iq.

But in this case its you who have been exposed for the fool you are by claiming there is no god without having any evidence of the same or explanation for all the wonders of the universe. :lol:

I would have called you a retard, but that would be insulting to a actual retard. I will just call you what you really are, A ARROGANT FOOL. ....... or what was the other word used ? a Cunt.

Nothing to hell yeah,still too few of us.............in this country I mean. :(

Must be Darwins theories in action :lol:

No shiit!!Well,at least you got that part right.10 points for Mr Obvious.

Still no points for the obnoxious cunt that you are, Oh Mega Fart..

What a piss poor analogy,but what better can be expected from a apologetic fool anyway?? Do you even realize that there are actual,scientific,peer-review-able evidence to support "the faith that man has been to the moon."??But then again,what better.............

LOL..... have you seen the peer reivew to believe that man has been to the moon ?.... have you examined ALL the evidence yourself ? :lol: ....... or have you taken it on faith ? :lol:

Again,another pis-poor analogy which doesn't hold any water.One doesn't need to actually taste one's shit to know it's bad.It can be easily deduced logically from the fact that,faeces is the waste product from one's digestive tract coupled to its foul smell and slimy appearance and many other of its properties.But can we say the same about God or anything super natural??I guess not,so your argument only belongs to your asshole,where you pulled it out of and where it should be shoved back up pronto,cause it stinks!!

In your case I am not so sure. The filth coming out of you mouth is fairly conclusive evidence what your daily intake is. So the next time you find something stinky, go lick it up to feed your evidence.

Your deductions is not based on conclusive proof. Just because it smells bad or looks slimy, does not necessarily mean it is not good for you. You need to eat it and determine its not good for you. So the next time you need evidence, come home early morning tomorrow. I will have some evidence waiting for you.


Sure sure,atheists are believers of the highest level,JUST LIKE ABSTINENCE IS A SEX POSITION AND NOT COLLECTING STAMPS,OR NOT READING NOVELS ARE ALSO HOBBIES,RIGHT?? :D :D

Now that is what a piss poor analogy is. :lol:
 
LOL.... he stops where ?

Does he say he DOES NOT KNOW IF there is God or does he say There is No God and those who believe in him are Fools and Murderers ? :lol:
What is with all this insane laughter? Do you have fever?

Who said that ALL those who believe in god are fools and murderers? Rational people see in shades of grey and relativity. Are you referring to the fact that a lot of murdering has been done for god? Well yes , indeed it has, the Aztecs killed tens of thousands by cutting out their beating hearts in order to appease god when god didn't respond, the thought never seems to have crossed their mind that maybe try another tack, instead they just assume killing more people or sacrificing you virgin girls would do the trick and they would pull out their nails before killing them, just for effect - god apparently valued the tears of little children. By law of chance once in a while the rains would come or they would win some battle which they took by leap of blind faith to be in response to the tens of thousand of beating hearts offered to god. A people who were wise in so many respects were a little foolish in this area, were they not?

In fact, they probably were at least in this area, both fools and murderers.
 
What is with all this insane laughter? Do you have fever?

Who said that ALL those who believe in god are fools and murderers? Rational people see in shades of grey and relativity. Are you referring to the fact that a lot of murdering has been done for god? Well yes , indeed it has, the Aztecs killed tens of thousands by cutting out their beating hearts in order to appease god when god didn't respond, the thought never seems to have crossed their mind that maybe try another tack, instead they just assume killing more people or sacrificing you virgin girls would do the trick and they would pull out their nails before killing them, just for effect - god apparently valued the tears of little children. By law of chance once in a while the rains would come or they would win some battle which they took by leap of blind faith to be in response to the tens of thousand of beating hearts offered to god. A people who were wise in so many respects were a little foolish in this area, were they not?

In fact, they probably were at least in this area, both fools and murderers.

You again display deep Irrational Behaviour and deeper Prejudice by claiming or pretending to know anything about Aztech behaviour or what happened more than a 1000 years back. :lol:

Now you understand the reason for my Mirth ?

Let me guess, you saw the movie Apocalypto and that give you "evidence" for your "beliefs".
 
You again display deep Irrational Behaviour and deeper Prejudice by claiming or pretending to know anything about Aztech behaviour or what happened more than a 1000 years back. :lol:

Now you understand the reason for my Mirth ?

Let me guess, you saw the movie Apocalypto and that give you "evidence" for your "beliefs".
Well I can't claim to understand your mirth...other than maybe a loose screw somewhere.

However, what I can claim with some confidence is that you do not know the meaning of the word "irrational" or " prejudice " or the spelling of "Aztec"

@Omega007 ... Great post, I am still laughing ....but the problem is we are trying to undo with logic the brainwashing carried out of the very young....actually not possible.
 

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