2,100 Iran fighters killed in Iraq, Syria: Official

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Well still better than NO DEMOCRACY like under ASSad...
No DEMOS= WAR
Hybrid= hope with legal base to fight for a change...

How is Turkey any better?

Erdogan has razed Kurdish villages to the ground in southeastern Turkey; jailed thousands upon thousands of political activists, journalists and dissidents; is planning to introduce the death penalty for people who are accused of crimes they haven't committed; is allowing the arbitrary arrest/detention of thousands of innocent people; has systematically destroyed opposition groups/parties; has fired/dismissed hundreds of thousands of workers; etc.

What the hell is democratic about Turkey?

How is that any better than Syria? They both have fake democratic systems. At least Assad's Syria isn't restricting people's individual freedoms and lifestyle choices, unlike the increasingly Islamic and authoritarian Turkey.

 

[HannibalBarca]

How is Turkey any better?

Erdogan has razed Kurdish villages to the ground in southeastern Turkey; jailed thousands upon thousands of political activists, journalists and dissidents; is planning to introduce the death penalty for people who are accused of crimes they haven't committed; is allowing the arbitrary arrest/detention of thousands of innocent people; has systematically destroyed opposition groups/parties; etc.

What the hell is democratic about Turkey?

How is that any better than Syria? They both have fake democratic systems. At least Assad's Syria isn't restricting people's individual freedoms and lifestyle choices, unlike the increasingly Islamic and authoritarian Turkey.

WEll Ben ALi did not either... still you get a family/clan who use their power to spread fear among ppl, rob them from what they believe or worked hard on it. And you couldn't speak your mind against those who had power and connection. Daughters and sons were taken for no reason, ppl were "silently" killed for trivial things, bc "their master" wanted it, the poor was used as garbage and the one who wanted a better future had to give " a golden pass" to their master, to be allowed to have " the chance" to realize it... and so on and so on..

Yet Tunisians ppl under Ben Ali had the choice to individual freedoms and lifestyle choices...

Look you lived in Western countries.. You know what democracy is , so pls stop your arrogance when it comes to others.. give them something you want , even if it's not perfect or broken, but don't wish them to go back to ibliss, just for the sake of "secularism" and "individual freedoms and lifestyle choices"

it's like this one who said" give the dogs something to eat and they will love you" are we dogs?

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

WEll Ben ALi did not either... still you get a family/clan who use their power to spread fear among ppl, rob them from what they believe or worked hard on it. And you couldn't speak your mind against those who had power and connection. Daughters and sons were taken for no reason, ppl were "silently" killed for trivial things, bc "their master" wanted it, the poor was used as garbage and the one who wanted a better future had to give " a golden pass" to their master, to be allowed to have " the chance" to realize it... and so on and so on..

Yet Tunisians ppl under Ben Ali had the choice to individual freedoms and lifestyle choices...

Look you lived in Western countries.. You know what democracy is , so pls stop your arrogance when it comes to others.. give them something you want , even if it's not perfect or broken, but don't wish them to go back to ibliss, just for the sake of "secularism" and "individual freedoms and lifestyle choices"

it's like this one who said" give the dogs something to eat and they will love you" are we dogs?

Ironically you just described what's going on in Turkey.

Tunisia is a democracy, yes. But not Turkey.

In order for Syria to become a real democracy like Tunisia, the Turks, Iranians, Russians, Americans and all other foreign powers must kindly get lost.

But since that's never going to happen, given Syria's important geostrategic location, don't hope for any democratic system in Syria.

So you must now choose between two terrible options. Would you rather have a secular dictatorship or Islamic dictatorship? There's no third option I'm afraid -- at least not for a country like Syria.

Tunisia is lucky in that no foreign power gave a damn about it, therefore it was allowed to mature organically without any foreign meddling.

 

[azzo]

Monarchs will be countered by their own oppressed people

This is always amusing to me. Your WHOLE religion and political system is based on following a monarchy, a very particular lineage. Your wali al faqih is so because he claims to be a descendant of that same lineage. You don't even think of voting on that position.
That's even worse than a typical monarchy, because your monarch is not just the head of state but also the RELIGION. Basically the wali al faqih is the shadow of God on earth.

Any shi'te don't get to dis or preach against the monarchical system because they live and die swearing by that system.

And you dare call other people oppressed, truly a lol moment.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Ironically you just described what's going on in Turkey.

Tunisia is a democracy, yes. But not Turkey.

In order for Syria to become a real democracy like Tunisia, the Turks, Iranians, Russians, Americans and all other foreign powers must kindly get lost.

But since that's never going to happen, given Syria's important geostrategic location, don't hope for any democratic system in Syria.

So you must now choose between two terrible options. Would you rather have a secular dictatorship or Islamic dictatorship? There's no third option I'm afraid -- at least not for a country like Syria.

Tunisia is lucky in that no foreign power gave a damn about it, therefore it was allowed to mature organically without any foreign meddling.

The thing is, If FSA take the lead, the country will not fall under an ISLAMIC STATE style. ppl saw what that could lead them. THey will have a proto-democracy, taken from Turkey exemple, but with an Islamic core/background and with the supremecy of the law.

Per exemple Tunisia :
In the Name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate
We, the representatives of the Tunisian people, members of the National Constituent Assembly,
Tunisia is a free, independent, sovereign state; its religion is Islam, its language Arabic, and its system is republican.
Tunisia is a civil state based on citizenship, the will of the people, and the supremacy of law.

Tunisia is not Secular, yet we respect all and that is under the law.

ps: only an handful of country are Demos and Secular.

Ofc it will not be perfect at first, but ppl will want it. But those under Assad, are still praising him, even tho' he's not legitimate, neither "good", and that's the problem... if ppl still believe that ASSad is perfect, then your choice for his regime, is already broken. When ppl statrt to see AsSad as a problem for the future , even among his supporters, then you can do something with "his" regime. meanwhile to this day,it's not happening.

ps: if no one was into Tunsia at that time, it wasn't bc they didn't wanted to, it's just we were too fast for them.. 1month and half and we did our job... as citizens

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

The thing is, If FSA take the lead, the country will not fall under an ISLAMIC STATE style. ppl saw what that could lead them. THey will have a proto-democracy, taken from Turkey exemple, but with an Islamic core/background and with the supremecy of the law.

Per exemple Tunisia :
In the Name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate
We, the representatives of the Tunisian people, members of the National Constituent Assembly,
Tunisia is a free, independent, sovereign state; its religion is Islam, its language Arabic, and its system is republican.
Tunisia is a civil state based on citizenship, the will of the people, and the supremacy of law.

Tunisia is not Secular, yet we respect all and that is under the law.

ps: only an handful of country are Demos and Secular.

Ofc it will not be perfect at first, but ppl will want it. But those under Assad, are still praising him, even tho' he's not legitimate, neither "good", and that's the problem... if ppl still believe that ASSad is perfect, then your choice for his regime, is already broken. When ppl statrt to see AsSad as a problem for the future , even among his supporters, then you can do something with "his" regime. meanwhile to this day,it's not happening.

ps: if no one was into Tunsia at that time, it wasn't bc they didn't wanted to, it's just we were too fast for them.. 1month and half and we did our job... as citizens

Good grief, there's no FSA. When will you realize that?

Most of the FSA became ISIS. The ones who didn't became Al-Nusra, which is now HTS. The ones who didn't become HTS are Ahrar Al-Sham, who are just as bad.

None of them believe in Western values such as democracy. They all believe democracy is a Western invention and anti-Islamic.

 

[Muhammed45]

are we dogs

You can read English, so trust yourself dude.

This is always amusing to me. Your WHOLE religion and political system is based on following a monarchy, a very particular lineage. Your wali al faqih is so because he claims to be a descendant of that same lineage. You don't even think of voting on that position.
That's even worse than a typical monarchy, because your monarch is not just the head of state but also the RELIGION. Basically the wali al faqih is the shadow of God on earth.

Any shi'te don't get to dis or preach against the monarchical system because they live and die swearing by that system.

And you dare call other people oppressed, truly a lol moment.

Yes i dare. The people of Arabian peninsula have no benefits from oil trade. Only a minority of Saudi prince and oil cartels are enjoying the oil dollars.
You could deny this truth i don't care.
And we have president since 40 years ago , You have no idea about whom you are talking to Saudi. Are you a prince?

 

[Sargon of Akkad]

Why are childish 'Arab nationalists' celebrating the death of Iranis who died fighting Daesh.

They are not fighting ISIS. Local Arabs are. You should read some of the posts in this thread. They are Wilayat al-Faqih "Shia" extremist mercenaries that have come to Syria (where 90% of them are based) to aid the biggest genocidal maniac of the 21st century and to oppress Syrians. They serve the regional Iranian Mullah ambitions. We don't want such foreign trash in our lands just like we don't want foreign "Sunni" extremists joining ISIS and causing havoc.

Of course we as Arabs will hail their deaths. May more such terrorists bite the dust. Foreigners here think that we live on planet Mars and don't know what is going on or the agenda of the Mullah's.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Good grief, there's no FSA. When will you realize that?

Most of the FSA became ISIS. The ones who didn't became Al-Nusra, which is now HTS. The ones who didn't become HTS are Ahrar Al-Sham, who are just as bad.

None of them believe in Western values such as democracy. They all believe democracy is a Western invention and anti-Islamic.

Anyway, it's not like we gonna change somthing around here, neither around there.
Just I Hope the good prevail... and those innocents get justice from a butcher and their allies. Whoever they are and whatever side they are, no exception with Butcher, extremist and khawarji

 

[azzo]

You can read English, so trust yourself dude.

Yes i dare. The people of Arabian peninsula have no benefits from oil trade. Only a minority of Saudi prince and oil cartels are enjoying the oil dollars.
You could deny this truth i don't care.
And we have president since 40 years ago , You have no idea about whom you are talking to Saudi. Are you a prince?

Oh you mean the poor people of iran who stand in lines to get a loaf and are sent to battle fronts are reaping the benefits of iranian oil and riches? you mean that the iranian economy is fully controlled by the rg and the mullahs? you mean that poor iranian shites don't pay 20% of their income to the respective mullah that they follow? lol

Also you can call that position that you vote on president, king, emperor or even god. But in practice, your king is the Wali al faqih. Which is a position that you can't vote on.

 

[Sargon of Akkad]

You can read English, so trust yourself dude.

Yes i dare. The people of Arabian peninsula have no benefits from oil trade. Only a minority of Saudi prince and oil cartels are enjoying the oil dollars.
You could deny this truth i don't care.
And we have president since 40 years ago , You have no idea about whom you are talking to Saudi. Are you a prince?

Are you really going to compare the standards of living that people of the GCC enjoy with the standards of living that people of Iran enjoy? GCC, KSA included, is basically lightyears ahead of Iran on all economic fronts, living standards, HDI etc. despite Iran being flooded with oil and gas as well. In fact you are the poorest oil and gas rich country in the world alongside the likes of Venezuela.

And we are well aware of the fact that those regimes are corrupt but your is even more corrupt and your people, as I wrote already, are much poorer and worse off.

Corruption Index:

http://www.transparency.org/research/cpi/overview

KSA way ahead of Iran.

HDI:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

KSA way ahead of Iran.

GDP per capita (nominal):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

KSA way ahead of Iran.

Next comedy show: Iranian volunteers actually fighting against ISIS instead of local Iraqis and Syrians (98% of the fighting force) and not actually being mercenaries for Al-Assad in areas where ISIS is nowhere to be seen.

Are you stupid or what? Seriously? You don't think that people of this region (Arabs) don't know the agenda of your Mullah's and what they want to achieve? You don't think that we are well aware of the few Shia militias in Iraq that take orders from Qom/Tehran and not Baghdad (that luckily don't take part in the battles against ISIS for a reason you know) and their role in Iraq? You have not done a single good thing for any Arabs or any Arab country in your history. When most Iraqi Shia Arabs in the South (heartland) complain about your puppets you know that you are doing something wrong.

What's worse we have absolute idiots among your Mullah's who say nonsense such as "Iran controls Baghdad", without "Iran" "ISIS would have invaded 10 million big Baghdad" etc.

Stop trying to take the credit of something that you have nothing to do with. Kurds (Barzanistan) does the same. Just stop it.

If those brainwashed mercenaries deserved to be honored or respected they should have gone to those countries to fight injustice and not fight one injustice/extremist but support the other who is very much similar.

And yes, I also prefer Al-Assad over ISIS with no doubt but none of those cancers should be alternatives as they are the reason for the destruction of Syria. Your stupid Mullah's don't understand that supporting Al-Assad (instead of supporting political reforms) is only playing in the hands of ISIS and similar groups and prolonging the conflict but of course your Mullah's only care about their influence and nothing else yet moronic supporters consider them holy cows. Never seen such hypocrisy anywhere else in the region.

Cries about Ba'athi Arab nationalist Saddam Hussein, hails/supports Ba'athi Alawite (Mullah's considered them a deviant sect and non-Shias until recently moreover, lol) Arab nationalist.

Cries about FSA, but supports Houthis, Northern Alliance, now Taliban, hosts wanted Al-Qaeda members, Hezbollah, Shia militias etc.

Talks about democracy in relation to GCC, lives in a similar autocracy that is worse of on most international rankings.

Cries about Israel all the time and accuses Arab countries, that actually fought against Israel, had volunteers dying there, financially supporting those wars (while Iran was an best buddy of Israeli in the region) yet has never attacked Israel even once.

Cries about Islamic fundamentalism while Mullah's rule Iran by strict Sharia law and execute more people than any other Muslim nation.

Cries about monarchies while most Iranians hail their historical MONARCHIC dynasties and while their entire rule is based on descend (only Hashemites or people who claim such descent can be the Supreme Ruler)

Made in Mullah-ruled Iran.

Do you want more examples of your disgusting hypocrisy despite CONSTANTLY trying to act like saints unlike other actors in the region or are you done embarrassing yourself?

Oh you mean the poor people of iran who stand in lines to get a loaf and are sent to battle fronts are reaping the benefits of iranian oil and riches? you mean that the iranian economy is fully controlled by the rg and the mullahs? you mean that poor iranian shites don't pay 20% of their income to the respective mullah that they follow? lol

Also you can call that position that you vote on president, king, emperor or even god. But in practice, your king is the Wali al faqih. Which is a position that you can't vote on.

Let's not forget that most of their oil/gas derives from areas of Iran inhabited by Iranian Arabs that despite the rich area they live in, are neglected by the same Mullah's that claim Arab descent. And those Arabs are mostly Shia so they cannot talk about "Wahhabis"/"Nasibis" (their codewords for Sunnis or more orthodox Sunnis) or use sect as an excuse for their bad treatment. Yet they cry about Shias in KSA who are among the best off people in all of KSA except for 1 city (Al-Awamiyah) that has a long history of being a troublespot/crime spot. Each country has such areas but ANYONE visiting Khobar or Damman for instance and then afterwards taking a ship across the pond to visit Ahwaz, Bandar Abbas etc. can quickly see the contrasts despite similar natural riches.

When the Shah was around we had nowhere near as many problems with your likes but actually cordial relations with leads me to believe that your Mullah's are the main problem! Most of the world (given your political isolation, sanctions etc.) think the same so we are not alone and when North Korea is one of your biggest allies one knows that something is terribly wrong!

Sad if Pakistanis reading this in Pakistan or elsewhere will fall for the lies of his likes.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

This is always amusing to me. Your WHOLE religion and political system is based on following a monarchy, a very particular lineage. Your wali al faqih is so because he claims to be a descendant of that same lineage. You don't even think of voting on that position.
That's even worse than a typical monarchy, because your monarch is not just the head of state but also the RELIGION. Basically the wali al faqih is the shadow of God on earth.

Any shi'te don't get to dis or preach against the monarchical system because they live and die swearing by that system.

And you dare call other people oppressed, truly a lol moment.

I agree on this, shiism is a monarchist system, velaye faghih is an arab form of almost absolute monarchy hidden by a pseudo-repulican layer. King of Iran is at this moment khamenei.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Anyway, it's not like we gonna change somthing around here, neither around there.
Just I Hope the good prevail... and those innocents get justice from a butcher and their allies. Whoever they are and whatever side they are, no exception with Butcher, extremist and khawarji

I hope so too.

By the way, this is why I sympathize with the Syrian Democratic Forces.

The Federation of North Syria is the closest thing to a democracy in Syria right now, whether some people like it or not.

 

[HannibalBarca]

I hope so too.

By the way, this is why I sympathize with the Syrian Democratic Forces.

The Federation of North Syria is the closest thing to a democracy in Syria right now, whether some people like it or not.

Well maybe, but they are not rly better. What can we say about a group that give freely what she conquered with the blood of syrians to ASSad? And what about those civilians in those villages who don't want to go back to ASSAd? should they leave their home again and again? TBH they have done it in Aleppo... So in my eyes they are no better, for whatever reason they have...
Next Time they will trade the freedom of their citizens for what? dark deals? power? etc... .

Anyway. Will see.

 

[Full Moon]

May they rest in peace.

They died fighting takfiri-Wahhabi filth. They'll be remembered as heroes.

Your true color again..