1m African migrants may be en route to Europe, says former UK envoy

[DejanSRB]

They can't dominate because they produce nothing. Its more and more masses pumped out who are absolutely useless. I agree with you they will collapse into a Black hole.

Yeah, I understand your point but..
Dont forget that Mongols destroyed advanced Novgorod republic, which was more advanced in 12th century then Russian tsardom in 15th century.
Dont forget that barbarians destroyed most powerful, and influential empire of all time, Roman Empire.

For example, Bury, British historian, made a research about Roman economy versus rest of the world.
Even in 5th century, Roman dominated world economy with 31%, with East Roman empire it was more then 50%.
Maybe I am too pesimistic, and old fashioned, but I think that without babies, or to be more precise (more then 3 babies per a women), our civilization cant dominate world in economic productivity in centuries to come. I

 

[HannibalBarca]

They can't dominate because they produce nothing. Its more and more masses pumped out who are absolutely useless. I agree with you they will collapse into a Black hole.

Lol the US and Europe said that for China 60 years ago...
Producing come with Knwoledge... and Knowledge come with High degree Education...
African country just need a "First Hand" boost from "countries" who need their Low Income workforce... And yes YOu know who I am speaking about The only one THe world didn't see coming... 60 years ago...

Have Fun

Yeah, I understand your point but..
Dont forget that Mongols destroyed advanced Novgorod republic, which was more advanced in 12th century then Russian tsardom in 15th century.
Dont forget that barbarians destroyed most powerful, and influential empire of all time, Roman Empire.

For example, Bury, British historian, made a research about Roman economy versus rest of the world.
Even in 5th century, Roman dominated world economy with 31%, with East Roman empire it was more then 50%.
Maybe I am too pesimistic, and old fashioned, but I think that without babies, or to be more precise (more then 3 babies per a women), our civilization cant dominate world in economic productivity in centuries to come. I

One rule to Globalization/Liberalism... Do not fall behind..Never...

You think too short. Estimates think it could reach 200 - 300 million refugees in next decades. Its clear europe will lock down and switch to kill them if pressure is too high. From then on your countries are their next best option. And you want tell me tunisia could hold 40 - 50 million nigerians? They will kill you off Hanni. Sooner or later you will figure this out.

You cant help them nor can we. They reach a criticl mass and collapse into total chaos.

What the meaning in staying in a country that do not give you satisfaction from were you come from?

If africans come to Tunisia, they will not get a Great change from Back home. Yes we earn more, better healthcare and such... but in The End, WE ARE NOT EU. and THEY WANT EU...

It's like those Immigrants from Italy/SPain/Portigal who FLEW EU to go to America or Italy neighboors like France/Germany.. back in the Days... and in that Time America was no better than EU, it was just because one thing " AMERICAN DREAM". Ppl around the world is driven by Dreams/Future... whatever it's true or not... they want to see and feel it bf saying No to it... That's who Human behave, and that was since the Beginning of Humanity...

Bc if you want the truth..Africans has better chance to Earn more and find a job in China than in any EU country combined... and Yet they do not choose neither Think about China...

ps: Eu immigrants whoever they are back in the days in America... were the "Africans" of today... seen and treated as cockroach and living in ghettos...

 

[HannibalBarca]

Depends what you classify as "human".

If Africans are not Human, let's just stop here. will you...
It's better for you and my sanity...

But I can understand... One exemple In France back in the days Italians were called "Spaghetti" or "Cockroach"... do you speak about those def of "Humans"??

 

[HannibalBarca]

We call the french that even today. Thats usual mocking.

I mean something else. Subsahara never reached anything. There are reasons for that.

Nope that wasn't mocking back in the days... it was insults... Since they came in France and did unwanted jobs with low pay... French didn't liked that since they "were taking" French jobs...

As for the African history at least I know that you statement is a mirror of you lack of education/knowledge in that field...

Have Fun

 

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[HannibalBarca]

For Polish banner..I remember something similar in France but agaisnt polish workers ( plumber etc...)

Same thing , with a Knight but with no sword... it was like a long big Axe... Seems they learnt well

 

[Vergennes]

For Polish banner..I remember something similar in France but agaisnt polish workers ( plumber etc...)

Same thing , with a Knight but with no sword... it was like a long big Axe... Seems they learnt well

Le plombier Polonais,le couvreur Ukrainien,le maçon Portugais....
Despite what some politicians say,they are useful and we are happy to find them when we need them. Don't think many French want to make those kind of jobs anyway.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Africa has no history below the Sahara. I give you a chance to prove your point. Show me something subsahara africa invented that we use today. You can use anything. Show me how Conge or Zaire influenced the world.

Mockings are insults. We call the frenchs "frogs" and it was same way when they came italy to work. In my own hometown for example most basic jobs were done by frenchs after the french revolution and the following internal struggle.

The common iq below the Sahara is below 60. In Italy its far above 105. Italy belongs to the areas in the world with highest IQ. What worth have people for us whose IQ is over 40 points below us?

https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

Its just the hard and cold numbers. The problem we have now is that a gargantuan overpopulation exists only, because its hold artificial alive by western technology.

They were one of the first civilisation... The Ancestors of Pharaons were from south of Sudan/Ethiopia... They did what they had to do in that period. Each parts gave something to the world... Creating a car or anything " in our time" does not mean our Tech was better or less than theirs...

Per exemple Europe jump out of the Dark age, thx to the Islamic world of that time , after spreading knowledge whatever through war/crusades/conquest etc...
And so on and so on... Everyone did something at one time... it's not because the West did great thing today that they should cover what others has done before...

Le plombier Polonais,le couvreur Ukrainien,le maçon Portugais....
Despite what some politicians say,they are useful and we are happy to find them when we need them. Don't think many French want to make those kind of jobs anyway.

Well I'm not against it... But in The End in France with " les immigrants volent les jobs des francais" it's the same... Those immigrants do what some French don't want to do... mostly in Infrastucture workforce or low payed jobs...

My comparison was just about how funny it was that Some Europeans think about immigrants while their own is treated the same NExt door...

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Sub Sahara folks invented Italians

The awesome curly hair hmm

Some body's grand daddy is from Sub sahara

Italian again very beautiful people

Hmm that curly hair connection very hard to overlook

ValerioAurelius do you have curly hair or stright hair ?

Again completely ok to have curly hair beautiful people

 

[ValerioAurelius]

They were one of the first civilisation... The Ancestors of Pharaons were from south of Sudan/Ethiopia... They did what they had to do in that period. Each parts gave something to the world... Creating a car or anything " in our time" does not mean our Tech was better or less than theirs...

Per exemple Europe jump out of the Dark age, thx to the Islamic world of that time , after spreading knowledge whatever through war/crusades/conquest etc...
And so on and so on... Everyone did something at one time... it's not because the West did great thing today that they should cover what others has done before...

wrong. The ancestprs of pharaos most likely came from what is now levante. This isnt about west or east. I´m Italian. We had the Roman Empire and before that Etruscian kingdoms. Later on Renaissance. I acknowledge that Carthago was very advanced and so was Egypt. I respect them.

What i dont respect is what i see in subsahara africa. Its a matter of fact that if i take my own etruscian ancestors and would put them into Congo today, they would dominate there with technology and science from back then. Its not about our time today.

The egyptian pharaohs saw subsaharan africans as primitives back then. Djosers chief priest Imhotep calls them "animals". Why was that? Why do you think egyptians acted that way?

 

[HannibalBarca]

wrong. The ancestprs of pharaos most likely came from what is now levante. This isnt about west or east. I´m Italian. We had the Roman Empire and before that Etruscian kingdoms. Later on Renaissance. I acknowledge that Carthago was very advanced and so was Egypt. I respect them.

What i dont respect is what i see in subsahara africa. Its a matter of fact that if i take my own etruscian ancestors and would put them into Congo today, they would dominate there with technology and science from back then. Its not about our time today.

The egyptian pharaohs saw subsaharan africans as primitives back then. Djosers chief priest Imhotep calls them "animals". Why was that? Why do you think egyptians acted that way?

Because they were arrogant... and tho' that being Tech advanced would make them "superior" to others... and Their superiority didn't helped when their End was near... After that No more Great Egypt till Islam came around...

And that's what is happening still Today..regarding Africa...
You have to Understand that since the Rise of Civilisation in Mesopotamia/Egypt/LEvant... subsaharian countries were used as slaves, were conquered etc... Till that time till now ( since EU colonies). So how can you be like others when through history and WITHOUT a break you have been used? The Answer is you can't...

But today it's different, at least for most of them... they are getting advance by taking part of this world whatever it''s via low cost workforce or Ressources... The few remaining Dictators in Africa are being ejected one by one... Ppl are way moreeducated whatever via their own educational sys or by those "returning" africans whose parents were "old" immigrants...

So it's changing, will it take time? yes. But it's changing. Ofc you will mosty don't see "their" advance OWN tech around before you die... but it's changing..; that's the cycle of power... One Rise Two falls...

And don't put the word Africa immigrant as being for every african countries... Only few poor/war torn african country who ppl flew from... Like Sudan/Tchad/Somalia and few central ones...

You don't have those from Ivory cost migrating illegaly per exemple or south africans etc...

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

How do you check IQ ? What is your number

 

[HannibalBarca]

Thats wrong again. South East asia too was always subject of colonialism. Be it from China, Indian kingdoms and later on european powers. But nations like Vietnam, Myanmar, Malaysia or Singapore are booming. You forget the genetic component. The average IQ in Subsahara africa is around 60. You cant denie that. With an IQ of 60 you are simply not able to move forward. When you lack the hardware, you fail.

To take the egypt example. Their end never happened. Egyptians were always part of the civilized world. Under greek rule, later on part of the Roman Empire. Even in its worst times nations like egypt still had a civilisation. Even when it felt under islamic conquest and lost its scientific status it still managed to have certain civilisatory impact in the world. Somethig nations like Nigeria, Congo or Simbabwe never had and never will have.

Well with the IQ shit...I think you are falling into some shaddy theory of Mankind...
Or maybe you want a List of BLACK savant around the globe ??

IQ has nothing to do with Intelligence... Having a High one would not make you more intelligent than another one... since IQ is not a scale of Intelligence... Sometimes ppl...

As for Egyptians , they were also part of "SOMEONE" civilisation after Pharoans fall... it wasn't their doing... at least till the Islmaic era...

As for African countries... you have to remember that the boom of pop is new... since the lst century... Africa was mostly empty... only few spot were done into civilized/civilisation structure... like Sudan/ Somalia/Ethiopia/Mali...
Africa is almost equivalent of a Third of World Lands... with difficult climat and geography...

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I think if Sub Sahara nations are not ravaged by war and wepon supply by corporations to steal their wealth I am sure the Sub Sahara folks would also be able to have schools, universities and large economies

Sub Sahara countries have some of the best , and last remaining grounds where wild life lives

If someone goes thru 13-16 year of School and Education , as case in Italy etc or even in Pakistan. Compare that to perhaps some Sub Sahara nations where there are on going wars the people don't have necessary stability to develop education and proper backgroud to establish a functional economy

Just matter of Wealth management and setup is needed for strong centralized governments that can stabalize wars in some of the African (Sub Sahara regions)

There are lot of Engineers and Doctors in Syria but they have no stability in their land due to war brought to their land by external elements so their IQ is useless against Bombs and weapons and many educated folks end up dieing in seas or else where.

If Bombs are falling on civilians then IQ becomes irrelevant factor you have a equal chance of dieing as a dump person who attended no school

 

[Azadkashmir]

well why not blame usa/nato countries for it, after all the elite got the dumb down brainwashed europeans to go over and bomb them. Now they coming to europe.
This is not accident it was well planned. Transfering all jobs to china is not accident, they literally send machine tools/templates over and trained them up.

while at home everyone is on welfare and now they cutting it down big time, elderly folks are really struggling and the disabled. Still the budget for war machine is increased. Now we have nepotism were favourites are chosen like they say it not what you know it who you know.


welcome to zion-communist new world order. moving africans out is good idea empty space to take over resources, rothschild style.