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1971 Bangladesh War is counter point to Pakistan’s two-nation theory based on religion: Indian envoy to Bangladesh

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Kalima says to kill civilians?
weird perception of Islam you have.


@waz why are my comments silently being deleted

Because they're extreme and I've also deleted others.
I've asked nicely but a thread ban is coming very soon for people.

Now as a general point, if people can't debate without insults then accept what comes.
 
You are collateral even in the minds of the most forgiving look forward Pakistanis.



You're delusional, If you think me or my countrymen care about what you or your lot have to say.



Forgiving ? We'd do it again, If we had to, that's my promise to you.
 
Because they're extreme and I've also deleted others.
I've asked nicely but a thread ban is coming very soon for people.

Now as a general point, if people can't debate without insults then accept what comes.
So you’re saying hellfire is too extreme on discussions related to Islam?
cool, roger that.
I will only talk about the milk and honey from now on.
 
So you’re saying hellfire is too extreme on discussions related to Islam?
cool, roger that.
I will only talk about the milk and honey from now on.

We generally don't talk about faith anyway, that's been known from the get go. Mix in the high octane politics and you have quite the explosive mixture.
 
So you’re saying hellfire is too extreme on discussions related to Islam?
cool, roger that.
I will only talk about the milk and honey from now on.

You so casually dismissed the atrocities that Biharis suffered in East Pakistan at the hands of Bengali fascists. You justified Awami League's persecution and hanging of Muslims who were loyal to Pakistan in the civil war. That is very sad
 
1971 Bangladesh War is counter point to Pakistan’s two-nation theory based on religion: Indian envoy to Bangladesh

Days ahead of the ‘Victory Day’ celebrations in Bangladesh, Indian Ambassador to Bangladesh Vikram Doraiswami spoke about the sacrifices made by the Awami League-led by Sheikh Mujibur Rahman in ensuring that there is a “better” South Asia today while debunking the two-nation theory based on religious identity on the basis of which Pakistan was formed.

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      • Geeta Mohan
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  • December 15, 2020
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Indian Ambassador to Bangladesh Vikram Doraiswami (Twitter)

Days ahead of the ‘Victory Day’ celebrations in Bangladesh, Indian Ambassador to Bangladesh Vikram Doraiswami spoke about the sacrifices made by the Awami League-led by Sheikh Mujibur Rahman in ensuring that there is a “better” South Asia today while debunking the two-nation theory based on religious identity on the basis of which Pakistan was formed.

On December 16, Bangladesh celebrated Bijoy Dibas when the country attained victory in its war of liberation against the Pakistan army in 1971.

Speaking at an event “Liberation War and India-Bangladesh Relations” organised by Observer Research Foundation (ORF) on Monday, the Indian envoy said, “The most important aspect about 1971 liberation war is that it is an important counterpoint to the singular and exclusionist idea of the two-nation theory, the idea that religions constitute separate nations.”

“It was fundamentally proven wrong by the struggle of the Awami League, emphasising the point that nations are made of much more than just religious identity,” he added.

The war also left a tale of sordid past which has remained unaddressed by Pakistan, that of the mass genocide committed by the Pakistani Army in the day ensuing the final creation of Bangladesh.

The Indian envoy reminded the gathering that the perpetrators of the genocide are yet to be brought to justice.

“Lastly, redressal and at least acknowledgement of what happened in 1971 is also important. It has often happened about Bangladesh that the world has sought to put behind what happened in '71. We can recall the pushback among several countries to the trials that were started in the early years of the last decade of the collaborators and the ones who had blood on their hands,” said Ambassador Vikram Doraiswami.

“But we must remember that the perpetrators and masterminds of this mass genocide have never been brought to book,” he added pointing to Pakistan.

Meanwhile, on Monday a delegation from Bangladesh Muktijuddha Mancha submitted a memorandum for the demand of 'unconditional apology' for the killing of intellectuals and genocide committed in the Liberation War.

“Fifty years have passed since the liberation of Bangladesh. The Islamic Republic of Pakistan still seems to be in denial mode and yet to offer a formal apology to the people of Bangladesh for the atrocities and innumerable sufferings caused by a brutal force on us, the people of Bangladesh,” the letter said.

“On the 49th anniversary of the Martyred Intellectual Day', Bangladesh Muktijuddha Mancha, on behalf of 165 million Bangladeshis, demanded Pakistan to offer an unconditional apology to the people of Bangladesh for the brutalities of 1971 Liberation War,” it added.

This lap dog forgot the concept of two nation theory, that is to live under islamic law and its rules of justice, equality and freedom
 
We generally don't talk about faith anyway, that's been known from the get go. Mix in the high octane politics and you have quite the explosive mixture.
I prefer your opinions but elSid been feeling too spiritual today... so yeah
 
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You so casually dismissed the atrocities that Biharis suffered in East Pakistan at the hands of Bengali fascists. You justified Awami League's persecution and hanging of Muslims who were loyal to Pakistan in the civil war. That is very sad
Nah I didn’t dismiss nothing. Biharis got thrashed I admit, but not without reasons. They turned one people during the war for favors, its natural they got what was coming to them at the end. Their opportunistic nature even keeps Pakistan at arms length distance from accepting them. What I don’t condone is awami league becoming the very evil they claimed to fight against. Killing of bengalis just because of difference of opinions, false allegations, loots and whatnot.
there’s one thing being loyal to the state and another causing chaos through vigilantism. My grandfather, dad, grandmother, great grand ma, great grandpa and the siblings all just minded their own business, lived in the village. They didn’t turn on Hindus because they were Hindus or involved themselves in sabotage... you don’t see me complaining that my family is getting hanged for war crime... because the family that fought against Pakistan or stayed neutral, did so honorably. Rest of the fools who thought they would try to gain favor by giving up addresses of Hindus, involved themselves in killings and rapes got what’s coming to them. If anything bengalis know that bengalis themselves did more crimes against fellow countrymen than Pakistanis.
 
Their opportunistic nature even keeps Pakistan at arms length distance from accepting them

The irony is that Biharis are actually the most loyal people I know of in all history, and the least opportunistic. For generations after creation of Bangladesh they identified as Pakistanis and remained loyal to Pakistan, earning the name "Stranded Pakistanis". They've lived in refugee camps for generations, the cost of that loyalty. They could have easily disavowed Pakistan and embraced Bangladesh to improve their standard of living, but they didn't.

Again, it's ironic coming from a Bengali, your people have a reputation, rightly or wrongly, for being treacherous and seditious, going back to the days of the British (1857 mutiny) and of course the rebellion against Pakistan allied with India
 
Bangladesh does not mention Pakistan movement in her constitution.

Everything Pakistani related is defaced. 70 80 year olds are hanged for supporting Pakistan.

It is a disservice to the cause of Pakistan to simply brush it aside in the consoling fact that they are Muslim majority.

Read the OP. It clearly mentions the theological dogma

If there were ultra pro Bangladeshi elements that is Pakistani and are involved with pak gov would they be tolerated in Pakistan? That actively sought to destablise pak for bdeshis benefit?

Considering that pak is a military centric country, these people would have lived to the ripe age of 70-80 yrs old. They would have been shot right from the start.

I think not.
 
You're delusional, If you think me or my countrymen care about what you or your lot have to say.

Forgiving ? We'd do it again, If we had to, that's my promise to you.

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