17 suspicious facts about Daesh

[Śakra]

@members on this site

Why are you so sectarian? "Shia this..., Sunni that...". You say the West exploits you, while you're the one's who dislike, hate even, different sects of your own religion. I've never heard a Shaivite make up conspiracies against a Vaishnavite or a Vendantite. You're hurting yourself in the end.

 

[SOHEIL]

But you're not refuting the facts he pointed out because there is nothing to refute, they are dirty facts.

Ha Ha Ha !!!

 

[T-Rex]

What facts?

There is only speculation.

For your information, ISIS has tried to attack Iran numerous times and it's plots have been foiled.

That the plots have been foiled is speculation, that Daesh so far never attacked Iran is the fact!

ISIS only works if it has local support. They want to kill all Shia, obviously they wouldn't have local support in Shia countries.

They don't have local support in Turkey but they have managed to attack Turkey, didn't they? If they want to kill all Shias shouldn't they go to Shia country instead of destroying places with only a few Shias? Or is it that their actual motive is to destroy states with mostly Sunni population?

 

[SOHEIL]

@members on this site

Why are you so sectarian? "Shia this..., Sunni that...". You say the West exploits you, while you're the one's who dislike, hate even, different sects of your own religion. I've never heard a Shaivite make up conspiracies against a Vaishnavite or a Vendantite. You're hurting yourself in the end.

We are rafidi/rafizi/safavid/kafirs !!!

High 5 !

That the plots have been foiled is speculation, that Daesh so far never attacked Iran is the fact!

Who says !?

you !?

They don't have local support in Turkey but they have managed to attack Turkey, didn't they? If they want to kill all Shias shouldn't they go to Shia country instead of destroying places with only a few Shias? Or is it that their actual motive is to destroy states with mostly Sunni population?

Ah ... you fool !

Turkish borders are open highways for ISIS !

& you raise a question about the attacks in turkey !?

 

[AmirPatriot]

@members on this site

Why are you so sectarian? "Shia this..., Sunni that...". You say the West exploits you, while you're the one's who dislike, hate even, different sects of your own religion. I've never heard a Shaivite make up conspiracies against a Vaishnavite or a Vendantite. You're hurting yourself in the end.

Unfortunately this is the mentality. ISIS are enemies of all Muslims and they call it a "Shia plot".

 

[SOHEIL]

Unfortunately this is the mentality. ISIS are enemies of all Muslims and they call it a "Shia plot".

First they called these bastards islamic heroes !

They called for Qādisiyyah!!!

& Now ... they created by Iran

Such irony ...

 

[Śakra]

Unfortunately this is the mentality. ISIS are enemies of all Muslims and they call it a "Shia plot".

First they called these bastards islamic heroes !

They called for Qādisiyyah!!!

& Now ... they created by Iran

Such irony ...

What is the difference between Shia and Sunni? I gurantee the similarities vastly outweigh the diffrences.

 

[usernameless]

1) Why can't Baghdadi be found and eliminated despite having the intelligence services of the world's mightiest powers after him and his organization for quite a long time?

Or *drum rolls* is it possible that Baghdadi will break OBL's, former hide and seek world champion, record of hiding?

I just have the feeling that Baghdadi is being used to give isis a face so as to play the boogeyman role for the world.

2) Isis claims to be sunni, but why oh why does it not attack Israel and Iran then? Instead it focusses on butchering the people of Iraq and Syria, not really a strategy to win the sympathy of sunni's worldwide at all. I mean many muslims have a dislike for Israel, so why not be smart, focus on Israel and gain massive sympathy and even support from muslims?

3) Who benefits (from isis)?

What has isis meant so far among other things;
- Islam defaced
- Spread butter on the bread of Western rightists and anti-islamists
- When we look at isis in the middle east, it's crystal clear that isis is directly or indirectly being used to reshape Syria and Iraq. US is actively helping on ground the YPG in the north of Syria. Who benefits from YPG/PKK in Syria? Turkey? Iran? Syria? Iraq? KSA? Imo, mostly Israel and the US. Divide in small pieces and conquer. Isn't it a bit suspicious that while the region goes up in flames Israel is relatively very safe. My opinion is that, once all puzzle pieces are put in their place in Syria, isis project will be stopped and Baghdadi will be 'killed' OBL style.

Conspiracy alert:
Thanks to the isis argument anti-islamists and rightists gain popularity. Such rightist parties are against EU. Is it not coincidental that isis mostly attacks France out of all West EU countries. Who benefits from these attacks? Right wing Le Pen and her party, who is also anti-EU. It's as if someone wants to break up the EU by giving room to the rise of right wing, who also use the isis and islam card. Would the US benefit from a fractured EU or not? I think yes.
And i believe isis is a project of the US, Israel and maybe some Euro countries to promote sunni-shia hate and conflict and cut up the ME.

Never thought i would delve into such conspiracy theories, but the Middle East made me.

 

[SOHEIL]

but why oh why does it not attack Israel and Iran then?

They can't attack !

 

[AmirPatriot]

What is the difference between Shia and Sunni? I gurantee the similarities vastly outweigh the diffrences.

The differences are unimportant. We are all Muslims.

Groups like ISIS aren't even Sunni. They are Wahhabi, which is an extreme offshoot of Sunnism. Its more like a cult than a sect. This cult is the same one Saudi propagates.

 

[Serpentine]

Daesh has since only ever infiltrated Sunni areas and has never even gone near to the Iranian border. Tehran previously limited Daesh’s presence to within 40km of the Iraqi-Iranian border and this warning was issued publicly.[4] The group, ready to adopt attacks on powerful states including Turkey has thus far respected Iran’s wishes.

This quasi-human who wrote this garbage doesn't mention the fact that Daesh captures Sunni areas not because it hates Sunnis only, but because it finds friends and sympathizers among Sunnis, that's why they enter many Sunni cities without a fight, but couldn't even capture a single Shia village or city, at least not without bleeding.

Daesh did approach Iranian border, but our air force bombed the hell out of them. It's pointless to approach towards Iran because they won't fight support in Iran and Daesh knows this very well. Few ISIS cells who were captured in Iran also confessed to this: That they were struggling hard to find trusted recruits inside Iran.

Meanwhile +90% of Daesh's suicide bombings in Iraq target Shia civilians, that speaks volumes for itself. They also have killed Sunnis, but only those Sunnis who are not supportive of their vile ideologies, while all Shias, young or old, men or women, religious or non-religious are a target of ISIS's savage ideology.

 

[haviZsultan]

How can anyone blame Iran for supporting Daesh when said country is a sworn enemy of ISIS?

 

[jamal18]

Luffy500.

Thanks for a very detailed work. I for one know very little detail about Daesh , but here's a few thoughts.

1. The western media, not to mention the governments, have been so devalued in my eyes that I believe absolutely nothing they say. So for me, that source of information is closed.

2. There is no doubt that at ground level, a lot of Sunnis are aggrieved at their treatment by the Shia , and this is a self-defence mechanism by Iraqi Sunnis.

3. While the western press are keen to publicize Daesh atrocities, those committed agaist the Sunnis are virtually unreported. One can only shudder to think what's happening.

 

[SOHEIL]

This quasi-human who wrote this garbage doesn't mention the fact that Daesh captures Sunni areas not because it hates Sunnis only, but because it finds friends and sympathizers among Sunnis, that's why they enter many Sunni cities without a fight, but couldn't even capture a single Shia village or city, at least not without bleeding.

Daesh did approach Iranian border, but our air force bombed the hell out of them. It's pointless to approach towards Iran because they won't fight support in Iran and Daesh knows this very well. Few ISIS cells who were captured in Iran also confessed to this: That they were struggling hard to find trusted recruits inside Iran.

Meanwhile +90% of Daesh's suicide bombings in Iraq target Shia civilians, that speaks volumes for itself. They also have killed Sunnis, but only those Sunnis who are not supportive of their vile ideologies, while all Shias, young or old, men or women, religious or non-religious are a target of ISIS's savage ideology.

He wants to show his anger like that !

These haters want to see an ocean of iranian blood ...

How can anyone blame Iran for supporting Daesh when said country is a sworn enemy of ISIS?

Because iranians are kafir !

 

[Serpentine]

How can anyone blame Iran for supporting Daesh when said country is a sworn enemy of ISIS?

No, we have created ISIS to tarnish image of Sunni Muslims, apparently.

self-defence mechanism by Iraqi Sunnis

Is this also a self defense mechanism in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Egypt, Nigeria, France, Turkey and Bangladesh? Apparently, so called 'self defense mechanism of Sunnis' is activated by blowing up themselves among women and children in streets, mosques and markets. Interesting.