17 Indian Army soldiers killed in Uri attack

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Extremely Immature stuff coming from a guy at this post.

His name should be rajgand sing

 

[Sankpal]

How are they coming from across the border I thought your army was extremely good at border security mate

do u know ''geography location n LOC between india n pak. no wonder how much try to prevent terrorist from cross border but there little chance for failure.

 

[Gentelman]

So when are you dragging us in, In this ironic timing of attack on a highly secured area which too is under curfew??

 

[Thomas M]

An other False flag operation by RAW to kill new recruits of Indian Army to put the blame on Pakistan as Pakistan in UN going to Show brutality of Indian army in a diplomatic way. This is a well played an old card of RAW to put blame on Pakistan and dampen the struggle of Kashmiris. One wonders why would pakistan carry an attack on Indian army when this kind of act will shed water on all the hard work done. This could have been done in future if UN failed to do any thing about kashmir again.

Any proof dude ??

Well we think the same about your APS attacks. It was an ISI backed operation just to get the approval for military courts and thus settle scores with the enemies of the establishment within Pakistan.

 

[Great Janjua]

do u know ''geography location n LOC between india n pak. no wonder how much try to prevent terrorist from cross border but there little chance

I think you need to train your troops a bit more in guerilla warfare no wonder the terrorists attack them so easily in little numbers mate

 

[ito]

The causalities could go up. 12 more critically injured. The worst attack in last 27 years.

 

[cerberus]

an attack on HQ of indian army & that also just before UN session, something is very very fishy here......

Army Hq is in delhi not kashmir secondly its only admistered ammo base of supplies

Secondly 17 killed is are fishy

 

[Super Falcon]

There are some Pakistanis who are getting ready to apologize. It's amazing!

We are not in your dreams

 

[scorpionx]

India is a democracy with all it's shortcomings like Corruption, nepotism, populism, red tape et all. Kashmir too suffers from this - administrators of Kashmirs including the political class coming from the same stock as Kashmiris themselves.

If it were possible to have an idealistic governance do you think we would not have implemented it atleast in our mainland cities? Administrative lacunae will exist - wishing it away is only possible in a totalitarian state and even there like cockroaches they survive because such faults are a basic human condition.

If the issue was really in governance then Hurriyat would have stood up for elections - IMHO this provides an excuse but in all fairness to you - I get what you are saying it doesn't matter if it is an excuse - shortcoming will be exploited.

Therein lies the dilemma - we get rid of corrupt Kashmirie politicians and these same people will turn separatist and cry murder about how democratically elected govt is being undermined.

Sometimes disease is incurable, we have to either treat the symptoms which we are doing now and bear chronic pain or just amputate the diseased organ - meaning radical Islamists

Not many states of India has the same historical prelude as kashmir. While the security excesses, bureaucratic inefficiencies and corruption can easily be shoved away in other states, It can not be in a state that is struggling still to preserve its own distinct identity that the Union of India itself had again and again promised to assist. I will not go too far but in 2010, Chidambaram came up with a eight point formula. It advised the state government to release students accused of stone pelting or similar charges, immediate review of all charges under PSA, descaling the number of check points and bunkers, ex-gratia for the families of the deceased, to provide the state government a sum of 100 crore as ACA for improvements in educational infrastructure.

What happened since then? Practically nothing. A state where generations after generations are living under such broken promises can not be equaled with other parts. Spectre, wise men saw these blunders fifty years ago. V.P Menon said to H.V Hodson in 1964, " Do not think you are dealing with a part of Uttar Pradesh, Bihar or Gujarat. You are dealing with an area, historically and geographically and in all manners of things, with a certain background. If we bring our local ideas and local prejudices everywhere, we will never consolidate. We have to be men of vision and there has to be broadminded acceptance of facts in order to integrate really. And real integration comes of the mind and heart and not some clause which you may impose on other people." Golden words!! And still holds remarkable validity till today. We did little to correct ourselves and we are multiplying our apathy only by putting a heterogeneous struggle into a single box of Islamic fundamentalism.

Only time will tell what would be India's response to this attack. Most likely they are not going to sit idle and will wish to pay in the same coin. But finding a short term solution for an archaic sickness is not going to give much result I am afraid. Lets agree to disagree on this point.

You seem to be more affiliated with your political ideologies or parties than with your nation..we don't want to hear people from like you at this moment..traitors like you are the reason for our country to be in such a pathetic conditions now.

Are you thick? First read in what context it was written. People like you causes more harm to my country than any average Pakistani.

 

[cerberus]

The causalities could go up. 12 more critically injured. The worst attack in last 27 years.

How they reached to tent where men sleeping
Is very shocking area command should suspended

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Army Hq is in delhi not kashmir secondly its only admistered ammo base of supplies

Secondly 17 killed is are fishy

Brigade is composed of at least of 3 regiments .. That's at least 2.5-3 thousand troops.

And they don't administer ammo .. Ammo and services are provided by services corps like (in Pak we have) ASC or army supply corps.

 

[ito]

So when are you dragging us in, In this ironic timing of attack on a highly secured area which too is under curfew??

Uri is never anti India. That is why. Majority of unrest is in South Kashmir and not near Uri. And Uri is at LoC

Moreover, the Kashmiri resistance fighters (reflecting the changed thread title) cannot hold a gun properly, let alone do such a daring attacks. The terrorists are from LeT or JeM.

How they reached to tent where men sleeping
Is very shocking area command should suspended

Majority were killed while they were sleeping.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Illegal base by the Indian occupation forces. Kashmiris are standing up for their rights.

I thought everything was fine Indian occupied Kashmir? So what happened here? Fireworks?

inshah Allah

You reap what you sow.

I think you need to train your troops a bit more in guerilla warfare no wonder the terrorists attack them so easily in little numbers mate

No amount of training can curb a legitimate struggle against an illegal occupation.

do u know ''geography location n LOC between india n pak. no wonder how much try to prevent terrorist from cross border but there little chance for failure.

Sure. You just blame your bloody war against innocent Kashmiri people on Pakistan. Your claims of fool proof security turns out to be just bla bla.

Just yesterday an Indian was claiming on this forum that the Kashmir conflict is not on the international agenda. That the world doesn't care. Yet, here we are...

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Retaliation will come soon and it will be brutal.I hope we don't take time to pay back.Time is different now.Its not Congress rule now.

Type of retaliation like killing Kashmiri women, youths and children. And retaliation like murder and rape of woman by indian occupied forces. No wonder , there is unrest in IOK. Your own government is responsible for unrest there.

 

[cerberus]

Not many states of India has the same historical prelude as kashmir. While the security excesses, bureaucratic inefficiencies and corruption can easily be shoved away in other states, It can not be in a state that is struggling still to preserve its own distinct identity that the Union of India itself had again and again promised to assist. I will not go too far but in 2010, Chidambaram came up with a eight point formula. It advised the state government to release students accused of stone pelting or similar charges, immediate review of all charges under PSA, descaling the number of check points and bunkers, ex-gratia for the families of the deceased, to provide the state government a sum of 100 crore as ACA for improvements in educational infrastructure.

What happened since then? Practically nothing. A state where generations after generations are living under such broken promises can not be equaled with other parts. Spectre, wise men saw these blunders fifty years ago. V.P Menon said to H.V Hodson in 1964, " Do not think you are dealing with a part of Uttar Pradesh, Bihar or Gujarat. You are dealing with an area, historically and geographically and in all manners of things, with a certain background. If we bring our local ideas and local prejudices everywhere, we will never consolidate. We have to be men of vision and there has to be broadminded acceptance of facts in order to integrate really. And real integration comes of the mind and heart and not some clause which you may impose on other people." Golden words!! And still holds remarkable validity till today. We did little to correct ourselves and we are multiplying our apathy only by putting a heterogeneous struggle into a single box of Islamic fundamentalism.

Only time will tell what would be India's response to this attack. Most likely they are not going to sit idle and will wish to pay in the same coin. But finding a short term solution for an archaic sickness is not going to give much result I am afraid. Lets agree to disagree on this point.



Are you thick? First read in what context it was written.

Brigade is composed of at least of 3 regiments .. That's at least 2.5-3 thousand troops.

And they don't administer ammo .. Ammo and services are provided by services corps like (in Pak we have) ASC or army supply corps.

The brigade is already deployed in areas posts which authorized to them

Base consists of various staff that is from military hospital and food supplies and other logistics

And this not my personal statement watching TV details coming from EX northern commander

That's why its targeted because lot non combating people will killed and figures will be deadly physiologically