15000 Indian soldiers to Kabul: Campaign against ISI unleashed/

[Energon]

Some people are unknowingly trying to project India as a super power.
Well good for us, we get the limelight even if we are not a super power yet.

We have no business in Afghanistan apart from humanitarian assistance in rebuilding the infrastructure in Pakistan.

Not only is India not a superpower, but even if it were, there would be no reason to get involved militarily in Afghanistan. It would only make things worse for the region and nothing positive would be gained in the long term.

 

[GHATAK]

I believe all the concerns can understand this easily what the game plan is. Its an open secret that the game is same...this time friends and foes are different. During the russian war we were friends and now we are rapidly becoming a foe. Guess what who is the friend now..Its bloody India trying to take advantage.

US needs gawader so that they could control the middle east oil and keep a check on chinese.

Remember russians were second largest super power but could not stop herself in breaking into pieces...do we think Pakistan can stand.

I think we should give them a clear message that in case of any conflict their newly found friend (India) would also face the consequences.

Why do you think pakistan will split. If yes, what do you think the GOP should do to prevent it.

I personally do not belive that US is interested in splitting pakistan. But it will be good if Pakistan co-operates well in the WoT.

 

[Skywalker]

Why do you think pakistan will split. If yes, what do you think the GOP should do to prevent it.

I personally do not belive that US is interested in splitting pakistan. But it will be good if Pakistan co-operates well in the WoT.

What makes you think that they are not. The CIA's involvement in FATA and Balochistan, safe houses of all the balouchi traitors in Kabul, easy cash flow of dollars, more n more poppy fields and drug exports to europe right under the nose of Americans speaks for itself.

Irrespective of whatever they are endeavouring to destabilize Pakistan...they know one thing neither we are Iraq nor Afghanistan.

 

[blain2]

Not only is India not a superpower, but even if it were, there would be no reason to get involved militarily in Afghanistan. It would only make things worse for the region and nothing positive would be gained in the long term.

Energon,

My friend if things were thought through so nobly, you and I would not be on this forum talking about this mess Realistically speaking Afghanistan, for good or worse, will be used by India to check-mate Pakistan. Even if India did not want to initially, it has been drawn into Afghanistan and all indications are that Indian presence will increase and will have a considerable military aspect to it. This is something that the Americans welcome and Indians may easily be wooed into doing. Not a good thing for either India or Afghanistan in the long run.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

So basically you're just attempting to blame everyone but the party who seems to be most responsible based on evidence collected by an intelligence agency (known to have massive resources at their disposal) where calls between ISI officers and militants were intercepted?

I don't know if you noticed, but I had virtually 0 input on those earlier threads mostly because there was no information out there to make any intelligent judgments. But sorry mate, I'm going to have to go with the good folks of the NYT on this one.

The NYT report is based on carefully leaked information by alleged CIA and US admin. sources - this is essentially a US establishment piece.

The 'good folks' in the US media also swallowed the administration POV hook line and sinker when it came to the Iraq war, and the lack of objectivity was pathetic, so lets not try and paint the 'good folks' at the NYT as some sort of messianic harbingers of truth.

My biggest objection to this piece arises from how 'senior government/military figures' are accused of being behind this, not just certain sections of the ISI, which might have been somewhat credulous.

One could argue that the accusation of 'blaming everyone but yourself' can be equally applied to the US in this particular case - where it tries to hide its failures in Afghan development and halting the drug and weapons trade supplying the Taliban by pushing the ISI into the limelight.

As for US motivations, they are clear IMO, and I have made my arguments on this; the US has extremely little leverage with the GoP/military at this point - neither side wants a confrontation nor can they afford one. The CIA is a US agency designed to further US interests - it has overthrown governments (democratic and dictatorships) sponsored violent coups and regimes, and caused a whole lot of bloodshed the world over. No one is arguing the 'massive resources' at the CIA's disposal, but those resources are first and foremost to project the US interest, nothing else.

This is just another means of pressure by the administration.