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15 year old girl and 11 year old boy found dead after sexual assault

I don't believe in corporal punishment as a state policy. It demeans society and is contrary to civilized behaviour. That said anybody touched my family expect wrath of hell but that would be my primeval instinct at play. And understandly. But I would expect you and everybody else to restrain my animal behaviour even if it was understandable. Sometimes what what wants at the private is contrary to the public good. I hope you understand.
WTH is civilised...you don't even know the "c" of civilised. As a Muslim I 100% believe in Shariah system and until this system is implemented, we will have problems. If one such a vile person gets stoned to death publicly, thousands of potential criminals will be scared to death.
 
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criminals will be scared to death
No. Not wanting to go into detail but there is very loose to no correlation between death sentance and crime. Check out hanging, electrocuting capital of the Western world USA and then compare the country your in. See the stark differance in how criminals are treated and the murder rate.
 
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talking about Gays , this crazy nation will lynch them alive .. but rapist are roaming free while plenty of reported of cases of men raping young under-age Kids ... where are those Islam ke thekedar ? if Allah destroyed Qoum-e-Loot for Homosexuality and sodomy, than i think our time is near ..


I would gladly pull the trigger as a firing squad for Zainab's rapist .. even i hate guns but that cute little girl is just making me heart go drown, all i can say to myself that she is in a better place with Allah SWT , and that rapist ... may you rot in hell forever and Allah burn you alive for eternity .
Well I disagree to some extent. If a rapist is known, people will lynch him too but that's wrong. It should be done through the court however decades of poor governance and injustice has degraded the nation and people have started to take law into their hands.

No. Not wanting to go into detail but there is very loose to no correlation between death sentance and crime. Check out hanging, electrocuting capital of the Western world USA and then compare the country your in. See the stark differance in how criminals are treated and the murder rate.

Well, shariah system consists of two parts carrots and sticks. We just talked about sticks but before implementing "sticks", you have to provide carrots as well.

A social security, a clean and distraction free society, a nice justice system and a social brotherhood have to established. And once such a system has been provided and still someone decides to loose humanity and commits such a harrowing crime, he should be given capital punishment.

The country where I live have a lot of positive things but even this place isn't ideal. Check the rape figures... and shamefully my country comes up on the top and that's in addition to the consensual adultery which is not a crime here.
 
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Well I disagree to some extent. If a rapist is known, people will lynch him too but that's wrong. It should be done through the court however decades of poor governance and injustice has degraded the nation and people have started to take law into their hands.

in this country people get lynched for just been Ahmadi , Christian and suspected Blasphemous or thief's , if DNA results show someone to be rapist of a child or women, hang that b@stard to the highest pole so the society takes heed . my post itself is contradicting to what you understand , I am not talking about public lynching but implementing the Punishment .
 
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The country where I live have a lot of positive things but even this place isn't ideal. Check the rape figures... and shamefully my country comes up on the top and that's in addition to the consensual adultery which is not a crime here.
Sweden is not all that differant to UK so I know the what your saying. But compare Sweden with it's "soft" approach and no corporal punishment. Then compare with "hang 'em high" USA.
 
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No. Not wanting to go into detail but there is very loose to no correlation between death sentance and crime. Check out hanging, electrocuting capital of the Western world USA and then compare the country your in. See the stark differance in how criminals are treated and the murder rate.
If someone do this to little kids in USA cops will execute the guy in middle of streets and save society from all human right craps .
 
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If someone do this to little kids in USA cops will execute the guy in middle of streets and save society from all human right craps .
And is USA a safer or better country for it? No. it is home of serial murders. And murder/rape and other henious crimes are soaring.
 
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And is USA a safer or better country for it? No. it is home of serial murders. And murder/rape and other henious crimes are soaring.

Would be USA safer or richer if cops were behaving like these scandinavian countries ? No
 
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Would be USA safer or richer if cops were behaving like these scandinavian countries ? No
Of course no. US system has brutalized society. violence begets more violence. Guns bring more guns. It is cycle. And USA has gone down that road way too much.
 
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Sweden is not all that differant to UK so I know the what your saying. But compare Sweden with it's "soft" approach and no corporal punishment. Then compare with "hang 'em high" USA.
That's because USA lacks the social securities of Sweden. Here (in Sweden) an unemployed person gets a compensation from the state, help from the state in finding the jobs.. even I got recommended a few people for some lower level jobs from "job assistance agency". This concept is very very similar to the Islamic social system which I think is still far more idealistic and better since it eliminates usury altogether: the main weapon of the bankers and baniyas to exploit the poor and create disparities.
Now couple this social system of Sweden with corporal punishments of USA and implement this for a decade. The crime rate will virtually go down to zero.
 
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That's because USA lacks the social securities of Sweden. Here (in Sweden) an unemployed person gets a compensation from the state, help from the state in finding the jobs.. even I got recommended a few people for some lower level jobs from "job assistance agency". This concept is very very similar to the Islamic social system which I think is still far more idealistic and better since it eliminates usury altogether: the main weapon of the bankers and baniyas to exploit the poor and create disparities.
Now couple this social system of Sweden with corporal punishments of USA and implement this for a decade. The crime rate will virtually go down to zero.
Read my previous post. US system has brutalized society. It's the entire outlook is extreme right wing. It supports the elite. It supports the status quo. It supports the inequity under the stupid label "freedom". It brutalizes the poor, the weak, the sick. And then when they react it then shoots them dead or hangs 'em dead or electrfies them under the "justice" label.
 
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Read my previous post. US system has brutalized society. It's the entire outlook is extreme right wing. It supports the elite. It supports the status quo. It supports the inequity under the stupid label "freedom". It brutalizes the poor, the weak, the sick. And then when they react it then shoots them dead or hangs 'em dead or electrfies them under the "justice" label.

Exactly, that's what I have been saying that USA lacks the social justice / security system of Sweden. They a very exploitative capitalist society that dehumanises a person into becoming the worst criminal and that is why the largest number of serial killers and psychopaths are found in USA. You USA have the highest number of prisons per capita in the world. And that is this corporal punishment system is unjust in USA.
 
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Exactly, that's what I have been saying that USA lacks the social justice / security system of Sweden. They a very exploitative capitalist society that dehumanises a person into becoming the worst criminal and that is why the largest number of serial killers and psychopaths are found in USA. You USA have the highest number of prisons per capita in the world. And that is this corporal punishment system is unjust in USA.
Well said. It is a brutalist, winner takes all society. Did you know that many American's consider European centre parties as "communists"?? Left or anything that smacks of socialist bent is swear word. The worse are the right wing religious loonny tunes.
 
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Well said. It is a brutalist, winner takes all society. Did you know that many American's consider European centre parties as "communists"?? Left or anything that smacks of socialist bent is swear word. The worse are the right wing religious loonny tunes.
Now I don't want to add the religious dimension but you know that it is. In Christianity (the right wingers) being rich and amassing wealth is considered the mercy of the God. So the richer you're the better. The most crank heads are Texans with their Donald Duckey accent and cow boy culture... of guns and horses.. very similar mindset to the nooni-tones in Pakistan. Same is being done in Pakistan but still most of the religious scholars discourage that and emphasise on charity and that is why Pakistan came on top in per capita charity in survey done by Agha Khan Foundation.
 
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Rest in peace little angel. Reminds me so much of my daughters. I hope the culrprits are caught and locked up forever. Pakistan needs to follow China and install fully integrated CCTV in all cities/towns with AI face recognition systems. I hear goes to the parents/family of this cute little girl whose life was cuit short.
My friend was involved in installing CCTV AT Lahore, he put his best effort. Personal resources and setup a state of the art system at busy bus station / adda but what happen? Govt install their uneducated, paindu staff for monitoring since many got job from villages, they pledge support for specific party and these morons have zero knowledge and interest in their job....as a result with in six months 90% cameras go offline / stolen along with many expensive support system.
 
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