14 years minors arrested in Indian occupied Kashmir, sorry I mean Pakistan

[Trango Towers]

So are you saying IAF bombed people in Kashmir
And that 50+ people in punjab were not killed for fun or the disappearance of people like Imran riaz khan was necessity??

Do u wake up look in the mirror and say to yourself.

Today I can be a bigger fool than yesterday!!.
Seriously never met someone so dumb.

 

[Mentee]

So are you saying IAF bombed people in Kashmir

No they bombed their own in mezoram back in 1966

 

[ziaulislam]

Do u wake up look in the mirror and say to yourself.

Today I can be a bigger fool than yesterday!!.
Seriously never met someone so dumb.

How many Indian Kashmiris and pakistani tribals have you spoken to

Do you have the guts to say this to 20,000 people who died by Pakistani/or Pakistan led intelligence (USA drones) operations and families of over 4000 abducted peoples

I mean it was a myth in the past as it was in a balochistan and Kpk but can you say this to Imran riaz family that Pakistan is better then Kashmir? Can you say this to Imran riaz family that Kashmir is better since they hang people) separatist while we kill them and bury them in unmarked graves?

 

[ziaulislam]

In pakistan separatist are crushed see what happened in balochistan and Bengal

Do you think this is what indians or even Israeli do

Have you talked to Bengalis?
Do you think indians did more killing then Pakistanis?

Has India ever used airforce against separatist

You can say whatever you want but the whole world doesn't hold your opinion

Talk to anyone around the world .

We aren't even famous in Arab world or Palestine either(we supressed a take over of Jordan by them)

When hurriat leader Syed gullani was home arrested you use to say "tumhari jamhoriat ka jinaza nikal Raha hey"

Do you think missing persons family can stay this??

They will get response "Konsi jamhoriat"

Pakistanis need to get moral standing before talking

PEOPLE WERE OKAY RIGTH ON THIS FORUM WITH COLLATERAL DAMAGE, unsanctioned killing AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL ARRESTS/DISAPPEARANCE IN THE PAST

but somehow they remember human rights when it happens outside Pakistan

 

[ziaulislam]

Point is pakistan is no better then other govts like India and Israel when it comes to human rights

That's the reason why our foreign policy and lobbying has failed in Kashmir

The lobbying of Arab world failed in Palestine for same reason

If you don't have moral standing you can't succeed

It's either a stick or moral standing..make up your mind

If you think we can use a stick in balochistan and KP without following the 1973 constitution..you then can't lobby for Kashmir .. because everyone will say look at your house

That's exactly Indian response on every forum because they simply say balochistan!! And pakistanis get quiet

Had due process been allowed and army police and politicians followed the 1973 constitution we won't have been in this situation

But consitution wasn't followed and isn't followed and the one responsible are ultimately the people themselves who choose leaders who stayed quiet on core issues

Be it nawaz sharif zardari and even Imran Khan who did nothing to counter these abuses (though arguably they happened less frequently in his era)

 

[Trango Towers]

How many Indian Kashmiris and pakistani tribals have you spoken to

Do you have the guts to say this to 20,000 people who died by Pakistani/or Pakistan led intelligence (USA drones) operations and families of over 4000 abducted peoples

I mean it was a myth in the past as it was in a balochistan and Kpk but can you say this to Imran riaz family that Pakistan is better then Kashmir? Can you say this to Imran riaz family that Kashmir is better since they hang people) separatist while we kill them and bury them in unmarked graves?

You don't say anything. You waffle about nothing. Yes u make noise but day something.

Look here you have gone yo me conversing with the trials and kashmiri issues.

What the f are you smoking? Make sense. Try to converse

 

[ziaulislam]

You don't say anything. You waffle about nothing. Yes u make noise but day something.

Look here you have gone yo me conversing with the trials and kashmiri issues.

What the f are you smoking? Make sense. Try to converse

So 4000 people who were abducted ILEGALY AND MILITARY REFUSE TO BRING THEM TO COURT and another 20,000 killed in military indiscriminated, illegal and un authorized activities aren't humans...

Humans only exist in Indian occupied Kashmir and Palestine not in Pakistan tribal areas