12 rabi ul awal in indian style

[Trango Towers]

who will decide the limits?


Have you ever heard of milad after parties!


This is why state should make it's rules and regulations, considering Kanjars as well.


It's international conspiracy. They have been working on it ever since late 80's and early 90's.
Now the crop is ripe.

Agreed and our mullah jahils are their tools and the blind masses follow

 

[BATMAN]

desi style:

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[Hindustani78]

In my city Sialkot fools dressed as Scottish bagpipers and perform on Eid Milad un Nabi...and this tradition dates back to 100 years.

First started by Agha Khan scouts and past several decades locals also adopted this....

Milad e Rasool / Eid e Milad / Mawlid is the correct word.

Agha Khan means explains everything, Turani Culture with the Tunani(Greek) Cult Takda, Culture hai.

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Union of India, Hindustan

Sultanat e Asifa, Riyasat e Hyderabad Dakkan e Hind.

Shaan e Shah Hai Dara Abad (Hyderabad)

 

[BATMAN]

You want to see what limits are set then go to grass roots and check how Muhammad(P.B.U.H) celebrated birthday

Only thing messenger of Allah left behind for us to follow is divine guidance (Quran) and his Sunna.

All those extras what we see (generally) among Muslims of sub-continent is because, we are being told that this is litmus paper, for being a Muslim.
While understanding Quran and observing Sunna of messengers of Allah belong to Arabs.

Results are already there for all of us to see, ever since Zardari regime, In Pakistan, People already got demonized, attacked and even lynched for reading Quran and practicing Sunna, knowingly or not.
Murder of Salman taseer was one example, now we have same ideological people leading Pakistan. Such mind set didn't existed only until 2 decades ago. I saw the introduction of turban brigades from early 90's.

Jinnah promised Muslims and others freedom to practice their faith in their respective worship places, but they introduced shirk and labeled it Islam, and started it's marketing in streets, so basically the Pakistan of Jinnah is not the same as naya Pakistan!

It's all happening in front of our eyes. Next generation would not know, the changes we saw being marketed as Islam.
It's individuals choice to mention about those changes in din we witnessed in our life time, and about the facilitators and implementer.
I'm afraid we'll even have a new Quran, 10 years down the line and Arabic Quran would be termed as Quran of alle Saud.

 

[Pakistani sipahi]

Only thing messenger of Allah left behind for us to follow is divine guidance (Quran) and his Sunna.

All those extras what we see (generally) among Muslims of sub-continent is because, we are being told that this is litmus paper, for being a Muslim.
While understanding Quran and observing Sunna of messengers of Allah belong to Arabs.

Results are already there for all of us to see, ever since Zardari regime, In Pakistan, People already got demonized, attacked and even lynched for reading Quran and practicing Sunna, knowingly or not.
Murder of Salman taseer was one example, now we have same ideological people leading Pakistan. Such mind set didn't existed only until 2 decades ago. I saw the introduction of turban brigades from early 90's.

Jinnah promised Muslims and others freedom to practice their faith in their respective worship places, but they introduced shirk and labeled it Islam, and started it's marketing in streets, so basically the Pakistan of Jinnah is not the same as naya Pakistan!

It's all happening in front of our eyes. Next generation would not know, the changes we saw being marketed as Islam.
It's individuals choice to mention about those changes in din we witnessed in our life time, and about the facilitators and implementer.
I'm afraid we'll even have a new Quran, 10 years down the line and Arabic Quran would be termed as Quran of alle Saud.

Bro whenever you oppose them they will label you as Wahabi Gustakh .

Most of the Lighting is on Kunda .I had a neighbor doing chiraghaan on kunda , I told him if you were that Sacha Ashiq e Rasool why are you using kunda , use your meter and then we never spoke again . . .

 

[hunter_hunted]

Only thing messenger of Allah left behind for us to follow is divine guidance (Quran) and his Sunna.

All those extras what we see (generally) among Muslims of sub-continent is because, we are being told that this is litmus paper, for being a Muslim.
While understanding Quran and observing Sunna of messengers of Allah belong to Arabs.

Results are already there for all of us to see, ever since Zardari regime, In Pakistan, People already got demonized, attacked and even lynched for reading Quran and practicing Sunna, knowingly or not.
Murder of Salman taseer was one example, now we have same ideological people leading Pakistan. Such mind set didn't existed only until 2 decades ago. I saw the introduction of turban brigades from early 90's.

Jinnah promised Muslims and others freedom to practice their faith in their respective worship places, but they introduced shirk and labeled it Islam, and started it's marketing in streets, so basically the Pakistan of Jinnah is not the same as naya Pakistan!

It's all happening in front of our eyes. Next generation would not know, the changes we saw being marketed as Islam.
It's individuals choice to mention about those changes in din we witnessed in our life time, and about the facilitators and implementer.
I'm afraid we'll even have a new Quran, 10 years down the line and Arabic Quran would be termed as Quran of alle Saud.

Why are you replying to year old thread, i dont even remember what this thread was about.

 

[BATMAN]

Bro whenever you oppose them they will label you as Wahabi Gustakh .

Most of the Lighting is on Kunda .I had a neighbor doing chiraghaan on kunda , I told him if you were that Sacha Ashiq e Rasool why are you using kunda , use your meter and then we never spoke again . . .

Ashiq Rasool would be very careful, while attributing something to Rasool.
Apparently reality is quite opposite. Some thing Rasool never practiced can never help win favors of Rasool. Common sense says, those who practiced Sunna in the face of intimidation and survived the anti Sunna marketing, would stand out as true followers of Rasool.

We are also witnessing a hint of what's going to be followed in the name of Islam, among Pakistani generations to come.

As far the forced label of Wahabi is concerned, it's a justification for those who them selves like be identified with some sect.
You must understand, labeling sects. on other's is a survival recipe for themselves!
They ought to brain wash generations to come, who in the end are incapable to think with free mind and with rational.
Imagine these people cursing and abusing virtual Wahabis all their lives, and one day their children find out there's no such thing as Wahabi sect. any where in world*
Therefore, besides labeling monotheists as Wahabi, they invented 2 more labels, just to eliminate all risks:
1) Gustakh e Rasool
2) Bugz e Rasool

You can't escape this triangle, you will be judged on any of 3 and killed, extra judicially!

BTW, all this evil plan and killings is implemented by the very same people, who were given asylum by UK from past 20 years, and than they bring more mafia, by way of marriage.

*At least, I haven't seen any Wahabi reporting on pdf in all those years.

 

[Sheepistanis]

I'm afraid we'll even have a new Quran.

They don't need to have a new Quran, when there are different "Islamic" books quoting unsubstantiated hadiths, all written by unknown people and they are considered indispensable to Islamic viability.

 

[PakAlp]

Seems like the anti Mawlid brigade has woken up after 1 year of sleeping.

Yes there are minority jahil Muslims who misuse Mawlid events but brothers open your heart to sincerity. Do Muslims not misuse Eid Events, people go clubbing on Eid days, people drink alcohol, people gamble, people meet their gfs bfs, people have unislamic haircuts and dresses.

Does this mean we should stop celebrating Eid?

Why only use cheap propaganda and youtube video on Mawlid. Why you scream bidah and shirk only on 12th rabbiUlAwwal instead of being happy and thankful.

Do people not misuse Quran ayahs and Hadiths to fit their loose beliefs? Does this mean we should stop reading and believing in the Holy Quran.

You see there are always jahil people who you can never control.

And brothers we need to get rid of this racism being promoted on PDF against subcontinent people. Just because we are not Arabs does not mean our scholars have not mastered Quran and Hadith. We have one of the most learnt islamic scholars residing in the Indian subcontinent.

It's kanjar like these who give the rest of us a bad name.

12th of Rabi-ul-Awal at my house went like this;
- I put on a cartoon about the seerah of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) for the kids.
- We did dua before our usual dinner, we've been reciting durood for the dua
- I went to my weekly Islamic class as per normal where we're studying the 40 hadith collection of Imam Nawawi and a book on Aqeeda.

Other people will have done more extravagent events, last weekend our masjid did a procession through our local neighbourhood, then had islamic talks, naats and langar at the masjid. It's all good - as long as what you do is halal.

MashaAllah brother. This is the correct way. To have a Islamic mehfil in honour of Prophet peace be upon him. Those people who oppose and take cheap shots need to use the same method against Eid celebrations because people do unislamic things on Eid day too. This doesnt mean genuine muslims should stop celebrating Eid.

I encourage all PDF members to hold beautiful mehfil in their homes in honour of the best of creation. Seek blessings of Allah almighty.

Turban is the sunnah of Prophet peace be upon him and sunnah of the Angel's. This is the true Islam. Nobody opposes arabic Quran but the wrong translation by the AlSaud clan. We follow the Quran translation written by the classical scholars of Islam ie Mufasireen. Not a 21st century wrong translation funded by oil wealth.

Learn Islamic history of the subcontinent please. The ahlus sunnah always been sunni hanafis, they always followed Awliyah Allah who only preached Quran,Hadith, Ijimma and qiyas. If minority Muslims do wrong things then this does not mean majority follow it.

Militias in Pakistan did suicide bombings and the whole world tried to label us a terrorist nation and called them Islamic terrorists but we all know Islam has nothing to do with it. But the western world keeps on sharing youtube videos for propaganda purposes. Anti Mawlid brigade has learnt a lot from them I guess.

 

[BATMAN]

When minority hijack majority, it's always an international conspiracy.
When turban brigades were begin introduced in Pakistan, during 90's Pakistan's intelligence agencies were sleeping. Now the crop is ready.
It's all designed to separate Pakistan from main stream Islamic world.
Same way English replaced Persian with Urdu, during their rule.
I'm not ready to give credit of cold start to Indians... it has much deeper roots.
I remember 12 rabi ul awal used to be like cooking food for neighbors, but nothing beyond.
These bollywood style parties of today are wide spread, and get zero criticism. Tells where we are heading and sky is the limit.

Milad e Rasool / Eid e Milad / Mawlid is the correct word.

Agha Khan means explains everything, Turani Culture with the Tunani(Greek) Cult Takda, Culture hai.

***
Union of India, Hindustan

Sultanat e Asifa, Riyasat e Hyderabad Dakkan e Hind.

Shaan e Shah Hai Dara Abad (Hyderabad)

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[Genghis khan1]

Nobody opposes arabic Quran but the wrong translation by the AlSaud clan. We follow the Quran translation written by the classical scholars of Islam ie Mufasireen. Not a 21st century wrong translation funded by oil wealth.

My Shia friend once told me that he has Quran with (Shia version) his translation, which he reads. I didn’t knew the existence of Baralvi version of translation.

 

[PakAlp]

I certainly oppose commercialising the Mawlid events but I think its more to do with people becoming richer and newer ideas emerging and then some muslims just wanting to party.

We have seen Eid parties and dances? We have seen birthday parties and dances? We have seen Jihad misused in front of our own eyes? Quran been misused and misquoted.

These days those who boast we follow Quran and Sunnah are the most corrupt because this is incorrect statement. We follow the Mufasareen who translated the Quran and Muhadithen who translated the Hadith. These people are experts but in the 21st century you have jahils who translate Quran with incorrect meaning, and then scream shirk and bidah when people oppose them

My Shia friend once told me that he has Quran with (Shia version) his translation, which he reads. I didn’t knew the existence of Baralvi version of translation.

It seems you are either not understanding my point or deliberately twisting my words. When did I say anything about brelvis, and brelvi is sectarian label used against the Sunni Hanafi Muslims of the indian subcontinent, in reality they are Sunni Hanafi.

My point about Quran translation is a valid Islamic sunni opinion. All sunni muslims follow the great Mufasarin(expert quran translaters) who number in many hundreds over the 1400years of Islamic history and yes 100s of them are Arabs.

I never seen anyone misbehaving at UK Mawlids. Maybe those who go clubbing at night might meet dodgy people and make videos for YouTube propaganda
Mawlid Shareef uk

African Mawlid UK

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Ahh the 12th another sufi concoction.

If you back to original classical islamic texts. No trace of sahabas, tabaeen, taba tabaeen is found of them observing the 12th. Rather a grand debate is found with one opinion for it and numerous against it. So the 12th can be described as dubious at best.

It's validity was already debated upon for quite some time. But now sadly it has become a mass shirk fest. With people celebrating Prophet Muhammad alai salam like Christians celebrate Jesus' birth. End up violating the divine rank structure where Allah is always superior than the messengers.

 

[maximuswarrior]

You have to understand that our culture is also influenced by Hindu culture. Even though we are miles apart we have still imported some aspects of Hindu culture. From our weddings to religious festivities. There are Hindu cultural elements embedded in it.

This is over the top. It is not necessary and harmful. There is a way of remembering the final prophet's (PBUH) birth.

Ahh the 12th another sufi concoction.

If you back to original classical islamic texts. No trace of sahabas, tabaeen, taba tabaeen is found of them observing the 12th. Rather a grand debate is found with one opinion for it and numerous against it. So the 12th can be described as dubious at best.

It's validity was already debated upon for quite some time. But now sadly it has become a mass shirk fest. With people celebrating Prophet Muhammad alai salam like Christians celebrate Jesus' birth. End up violating the divine rank structure where Allah is always superior than the messengers.

There is no shirk in remembering the final prophet's birth. You do it in a respectful manner. The final prophet PBUH taught us Islam. Without his teachings we wouldn't know about Islam. He is the final messenger of Allah. We remember him every day by reading salutations i.e. durood. That is also a form of remembrance.

I certainly oppose commercialising the Mawlid events but I think its more to do with people becoming richer and newer ideas emerging and then some muslims just wanting to party.

We have seen Eid parties and dances? We have seen birthday parties and dances? We have seen Jihad misused in front of our own eyes? Quran been misused and misquoted.

These days those who boast we follow Quran and Sunnah are the most corrupt because this is incorrect statement. We follow the Mufasareen who translated the Quran and Muhadithen who translated the Hadith. These people are experts but in the 21st century you have jahils who translate Quran with incorrect meaning, and then scream shirk and bidah when people oppose them



It seems you are either not understanding my point or deliberately twisting my words. When did I say anything about brelvis, and brelvi is sectarian label used against the Sunni Hanafi Muslims of the indian subcontinent, in reality they are Sunni Hanafi.

My point about Quran translation is a valid Islamic sunni opinion. All sunni muslims follow the great Mufasarin(expert quran translaters) who number in many hundreds over the 1400years of Islamic history and yes 100s of them are Arabs.

I never seen anyone misbehaving at UK Mawlids. Maybe those who go clubbing at night might meet dodgy people and make videos for YouTube propaganda
Mawlid Shareef uk

African Mawlid UK

Mawlid has been celebrated for centuries. Long before Sufi of the Subcontinent introduced it on our shores. The Arab Sufi's have been celebrating the prophet's birth for ages. I find it astonishing how some people have issues with remembering the birth of our prophet PBUH who taught us Islam. Remembering the birth or any historical day of the prophet is not shirk. It is notthing short of worship. Remembrance of birthday is not sinful.

 

[Genghis khan1]