11 USA school shootings in this month alone January 2018

[Bilal9]

Well it's like you said, you live in the well-off areas.

Not the American heartlands, i.e. the middle America that supports Donald Trump with a passion and is falling to the political Alt-Right.

True. California and the Mid-West are two separate countries almost, as far as progressive thinking.

 

[NoOne'sBoy]

don't **** with that quite white kid in the class

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

don't **** with that quite white kid in the class

Do you think it is more likely to be the white kid who does it?

 

[NoOne'sBoy]

Do you think it is more likely to be the white kid who does it?

in most cases and as far as the stereotype is concerned it seems so but it was a korean-american kid who set the record for the highest kills though. mann it feels like no matter where you do good in life, some asian kid does it better than you.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

in most cases and as far as the stereotype is concerned it seems so but it was a korean-american kid who set the record for the highest kills though. man it feels like no matter where you do good in life, some asian kid does it better than you.

When it comes to these mass shootings, whether in schools or in public, I rarely see any black people doing it?

but it was a korean-american kid who set the record for the highest kills though.

I think that Korean-American still has the record for the most deaths in a school shooting, but in terms of mass shootings he was recently beaten in 2016 by the gay club mass shooting, as well as the 2017 casino shooting by that accountant.

 

[NoOne'sBoy]

When it comes to these mass shootings, whether in schools or in public, I rarely see any black people doing it?



I think that Korean-American still has the record for the most deaths in a school shooting, but in terms of mass shootings he was recently beaten in 2016 by the gay club mass shooting, as well as the 2017 casino shooting by that accountant.

i dont know the statistics but almost all the famous school shootings were exclusively done by white kids. who knows why.

gay club one was done by a haji who believed to be kinda gay himself.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

i dont know the statistics but almost all the famous school shootings were exclusively done by white kids. who knows why.

Do you have any theories on why it tends to be white people who carry out these mass shootings, in the USA at least?

I know there is a lot of "lone wolf" politics out there, especially in the far-right political community.

 

[TaiShang]

Do you have any theories on why it tends to be white people who carry out these mass shootings, in the USA at least?

I know there is a lot of "lone wolf" politics out there, especially in the far-right political community.

They say it is because extreme individualism and mistrust of government.

I call it fake theory.

In a country of 50 million (probably mostly white) welfare receivers (two times big as Taiwan province population), there cannot extreme individualism or hatred of government.

They are just psychologically challenged under wrong cultural impetus.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Do you have any theories on why it tends to be white people who carry out these mass shootings, in the USA at least?

I know there is a lot of "lone wolf" politics out there, especially in the far-right political community.

What's the theory on Chinese mass school stabbings? Opioids? Chinese knife culture? Overly medicated population? Your school killings are crazy. You are lucky you don't have guns or the carnage would be insane.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/8-kids-stabbed-to-death-at-chinese-school/
8 Kids Stabbed to Death at Chinese School

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/world/asia/30china.html
Attacker Stabs 28 Children in School in China's Jiangsu Province

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/13/world/la-fg-china-school-attack-20100513
Chinese attacker kills 7 children, 2 adults with meat cleaver

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/04/AR2010080402314.html
Man kills 3 children in latest Chinese kindergarten attack

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29008671
Three children killed in China school stabbing

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-outside-primary-school-Chinese-knifeman.html
22 children and elderly woman stabbed outside primary school by Chinese knifeman

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/04/asia/china-kindergarten-knife-attack/index.html
Knife-wielding man attacks 11 at Chinese kindergarten

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/1...in-throat-at-school-in-china-report-says.html
Knife-wielding Chinese man slashes students in throat at school in China, report says

@gambit @NoOne'sBoy what do you think the cause of the stabbing could be

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

What's the theory on Chinese mass school stabbings? Opioids? Chinese knife culture? Overly medicated population? Your school killings are crazy. You are lucky you don't have guns or the carnage would be insane.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/8-kids-stabbed-to-death-at-chinese-school/
8 Kids Stabbed to Death at Chinese School

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/world/asia/30china.html
Attacker Stabs 28 Children in School in China's Jiangsu Province

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/13/world/la-fg-china-school-attack-20100513
Chinese attacker kills 7 children, 2 adults with meat cleaver

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/04/AR2010080402314.html
Man kills 3 children in latest Chinese kindergarten attack

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29008671
Three children killed in China school stabbing

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-outside-primary-school-Chinese-knifeman.html
22 children and elderly woman stabbed outside primary school by Chinese knifeman

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/04/asia/china-kindergarten-knife-attack/index.html
Knife-wielding man attacks 11 at Chinese kindergarten

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/1...in-throat-at-school-in-china-report-says.html
Knife-wielding Chinese man slashes students in throat at school in China, report says

@gambit @NoOne'sBoy what do you think the cause of the stabbing could be

So are you saying that the American member @NoOne'sBoy is wrong, and that there is no perception in the USA of mass shooters typically being white males?

Any mass shootings in the past few years that have been committed by white or non-white females for instance?

 

[gambit]

What's the theory on Chinese mass school stabbings? Opioids? Chinese knife culture? Overly medicated population? Your school killings are crazy. You are lucky you don't have guns or the carnage would be insane.

@gambit @NoOne'sBoy what do you think the cause of the stabbing could be

No chicks ? It is estimated that by 2020 up to 30 million Chinese men will be women-less. That is the population count of at least a dozen countries. Most likely our PDF Chinese members here are among that group.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

So are you saying that the American member @NoOne'sBoy is wrong, and that there is no perception in the USA of mass shooters typically being white males?

Any mass shootings in the past few years that have been committed by white or non-white females for instance?

As has already been stated up until the Vegas shooting a few months ago the biggest shooting was done by an Afghani in 2016 and the second worst was in 2007 by the Korean.

As for mass shooting in schools they seem to mostly happen in small towns where gun ownership is high and the population is mostly white. However as for overall violence in schools (in terms of under 3 victims) that would mostly be found in inner city schools where the majority are not white and sadly it doesn't make much headlines. Such as this from the other day: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Ballou-Student-Dead-After-Classroom-Attack-471778613.html

No chicks ? It is estimated that by 2020 up to 30 million Chinese men will be women-less.

That is a very logical theory (according to PDF standards)! Pent up frustrations from being an outcast, losing face, opioid abuse, poverty, over medicated, etc..causing people to go violent and lash out at society.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/china-s-school-killings-blamed-on-social-tension-1.940415
China's school killings blamed on social tension

 

[TaiShang]

So are you saying that the American member @NoOne'sBoy is wrong, and that there is no perception in the USA of mass shooters typically being white males?

Any mass shootings in the past few years that have been committed by white or non-white females for instance?

I think shooters tend to be whites.

That's probably associated with the loss of social status and decreasing life chances.

 

[Mista]

Currently there is a dichotomy in American's attitude towards firearms. Usually the greater the population density of residence the greater the anti-gun attitudes. This attitude difference is rooted in history and moulded by realism.

American gun culture was a product of the frontier mentality of being self sufficient and feeling empowered with the ability to fend off overreaching powers. Some have stayed in that mentality. For many constitutionalists (pro unrestricted ownership), the firearm represents the ability to overthrow their government (preserving political power) not just a sporting tool. I think pro gun attitudes in America was a default position.

Fast-forward to the current era, there is a dichotomy to where Americans live and this greatly shapes attitudes towards the firearm. Those living in urban centers are attune with the dangers of firearms being in the wrong hands. A mid-large American city has more gun crime than all of Canada. Many Americans living in major cities fear the gun for two main reasons:
1. Plenty of people use fire arms to rob, kill, and commit other crimes
2. They are unaccustomed to the notion of the gun due to living in urban areas for generations (2+) absent of the gun

Those living in less densely populated areas see these problems and propose the solution of "only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with the gun", with many citing the example of Texas and how there is lower crime. Their solutions to those in cities is to own guns and practice often. I think this is a downward spiralling feedback loop due to the nature of major urban centers. Major American cities are usually competitive and are structurally designed to produce stratification, gentrification, and if managed poorly, poverty (leading to life crime) as compared to less populated areas. The combination of close proximity to victims, poverty, tendency for crime and firearms is a volatile mix. For many living in urban areas, it is clear the firearm exacerbates the consequences of crime and increases violent deaths, this along with the disregard towards the notion of owning firearms creates an anti-gun attitude.

The pro-gun camp has a romantic and often religious fervor towards their right to bear arms and fear policies of gun control in major cities will spill over to the periphery.

I think gun control in major cities will reduce violent crimes and deaths but not necessarily reduce overall crime. The problem with this idea is implementation. Where do you draw boundaries and how do you defend that boundary from arms smugglers? An incomplete gun control policy leaves only the criminal with guns and a necessity for greater state presence, which often cannot be provided adequately or in time. Implementation has to be complete or nearly complete to be effective.

The fact of the matter is that America is the most armed country in the world, there are more guns than there are Americans. The feasibility of removing firearms is very questionable. For some, guns are a way of life and deaths resulting from gun crime is merely a premium payment for an insurance policy. I don't think it is realistic to assume Americans will change their attitudes towards guns and implement a nation wide gun confiscation like in Australia. The trend I see for urban centers is increased segregation and city within city/bunker/safehouse mentality and urban design. This is pushed by increasing wealth/income inequality, rising unemployment, and decreased work place participation rate. For less densely populated areas, the leaning is towards a doubling down on the gun culture. For the interior, the gun is increasingly becoming the vanguard of the status quo that is the idea of America they love and cherish, the once "Great America" that they want to make great again and they see themselves in a political struggle against the "coastal elites" which they feel are overpowering them demographically. The politics of the gun is their leverage against the the opposition in this national political struggle and will keep them politically relevant for as long as they possess the gun.

Dense cities are structurally designed to not be suitable for guns, creating policies to reduce them while the interior sees the gun as their equaliser in the political struggle against the "liberal elites" demographic encroachment. The divide will remain and likely to deepen.

"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" - Mao Zedong

That's a great analysis. Thanks.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Currently there is a dichotomy in American's attitude towards firearms. Usually the greater the population density of residence the greater the anti-gun attitudes.

I think gun control in major cities will reduce violent crimes and deaths

You are overlooking another point there are typically over 30 million [mostly deer] hunting licenses issued. That’s 1 for every 10 people. Focusing on the wacky people who say they want to keep guns to protect themselves from the government is nowhere close to the people who own guns for hunting. People in the city probably are not getting these hunting licences so of course owning a gun/rifle is something they look at as odd and so they would be more anti-gun.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/253615/number-of-hunting-licenses-and-permits-in-the-us/#0