Chakar The Great
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Dont try to argue with them. (Ignorant) People just want to hear what they want to hear.Unlike letting it spread unchecked like US did, China locked down the city of Wuhan and Hubei province, 60 million people, No in and out, and basically quarantined the whole nation,1.4 billion people, for 2 months. US never locked down any cities or states to try to contain H1N1. They just let it spread.
Months after it had spread. How do you think it went around the globe?China locked down the city of Wuhan and Hubei province
Thread is about China, Wuhan and Coronavirus, kindly stop derailing the thread to feel better.When H1N1
Then why are you on a forum if you dont allow discussions?Dont try to argue with them. (Ignorant) People just want to hear what they want to hear.
I think that this virus got leaked from the Wuhan level 4 virology lab and was blamed on wild animals for face saving. The question is who will investigate the issue from this angle and bring the culprits to justice.
Thread is about China, Wuhan and Coronavirus, kindly stop derailing the thread to feel better.
lol What you taking about China "denying" it? US president just openly support China said it "It just is a flu" ,"you don't need wear mask" and "People have it can go to work" , are you saying the leader of world is denying it and lying? Are you saying trump is CPP paid agent?Months after it had spread. How do you think it went around the globe?
Thread is about China, Wuhan and Coronavirus, kindly stop derailing the thread to feel better.
The truth is China didnt learn from the past and let it spread before shutting down a whole city! Like how China denied about the virus and let it spread, you denying it did so is not going to fix it!
Then why are you on a forum if you dont allow discussions?
Not the best person to quote ...US president
I am talking about China and you are bringing in Trump to feel better? So you will deny your govt lied and hid the virus since December?are you saying the leader of world is denying it and lying? Are you saying trump is CPP paid agent?
How is that related to Wuhan and this thread?U.S can't even have a working test kid until today. Any disease will spread like wildfire in U.S.
Grats to US to have number one death rate in the world.
People like you who brainwash have trouble to understand that China had to detect that there was a new virus around which is quite difficult to detect since other diseases can cause the same symptoms(This is around end of December A doctor did a excellent job to found it and reported to CDC), finding out a way to detect the disease to see how many people had it (CDC confirm and report to WHO, and produce first test kit around Jan 7th), finding out how dangerous/contagious it was and then taking measures.(Take two week to mess produce test kit and test people to find out, it take 14 day for people to show syndrome ).
> 2019 年 12 月 15 日,一名 65 岁的华南海鲜市场男性送货员开始发烧。
December 15th, a 65 year old male delivery driver who worked at the Huanan seafood market comes down with a fever.
> 12 月 18 日,他来到武汉市中心医院本院(南京路院区)急诊科看病
December 18th, the patient went to the Wuhan Central Hospital (Nanjing road district) emergency room for a check-up.
> 12 月 22 日,这位病人病情加重,进入 ICU,医生们使用了各种抗生素治疗无效。
December 22nd, the patient's condition worsens and he is admitted into the ICU. Doctors administer multiple types of antibiotics but they do not have any effect.
> 12 月 24 日,呼吸内科一名副主
任医师对这位病人进行了气管镜采样,然后将病人的肺泡灌洗液样本送到第三方检测机构 广州微远基因科技有限公司进行 NGS 检测
December 24th, Dr. Ren – the deputy head of the respiratory department – took the patient's bronchoscope sample and sent it to Guangzhou Weiyuan Gene Technology Co. (a private testing company).
> 这名病人已经于 12 月 25 日转入武汉同济医院。
December 25th, the patient is transferred to Wuhan Tongji Hospital.
> 12 月 27 日反馈检测结果,但微远基因并没有给出书面报告。“他们只是电话通知我们,说是一种新的冠状病毒。”
December 27th, the test results are back, but Weiyuan Gene Technology Co. doesn't issue a written report to the hospital, they simply call to tell them that it is a new coronavirus. **[Note:this is the first indication that there is a new novel coronavirus]**
> 12 月 27 日、28 日该公司领导跟医院、疾控(部门)电话沟通,29 日、30 日甚至亲自去武汉跟医院、疾控中心领导当面汇报交流所有分析结果
December 27-30, company leaders from Weiyuan Gene Technology Co. communicate with the hospital's disease control department by phone, and then fly to Wuhan directly to share the results from the analysis with the hospital staff and the Centers for Disease Control.
> 上述已知最早完成基因测序的样本主人,之后在金银潭医院不治身亡
During this time the patient dies in Jinyintan hospital.
> 2019 年 12 月底,武汉市中心医院还有两例“不
明原因肺炎”的患者样本被送往不同机构进行了基因测序。
Near the end of December, two other patients from Wuhan Central Hospital diagnosed with the unidentified pneumonia have their samples taken and sent to two independent testing facilities for gene sequencing.
> 12 月 27 日,一名 41 岁的陈姓男子到武汉市中心医院南京路院区就诊。12 月 27 日傍晚,患者在该院呼吸科 ICU 做支气管镜取样,这次的样本送往了另一家从事 NGS 检测的北京
博奥医学检验所有限公司。
December 27, a patient "Mr. Chen" presents to the Wuhan Central Hospital. Medical samples are taken and sent to Beijing based Bo'ao Medical Labratory Co., Ltd. for testing.
> 12 月 30 日,北京博奥医学检验所将这位病人的送检报告反馈给了医生,检测结果直 接是“SARS coronavirus”(SARS 冠状病毒)。
December 30th, the patient's result comes back positively identified as the SARS coronavirus.
> 12 月 30 日,北京博奥医学检验所的检测报告出现在武汉市中心医院医生的微信中。
December 30th, the Bo'ao Medical Labratory Co. report which (note:erroneously) identified the virus as SARS appears in the Wechat group of the doctors at the Wuhan Central Hospital.
> 当天傍晚 17 时 48 分,武汉市中心医院眼科医生李文亮在同学群中发布信息:“华南水果海鲜市场确诊了 7 例 SARS,在我们医院急诊科隔离”
December 30th 5:48pm, Dr. Li Wenliang, an opthalmologist at Wuhan Central Hospital writes a message in a wechat group: "Seven individuals have been diagnosed with the SARS virus in connection with the Huanan Seafood Market and are being quarantined at our hospital."
> 12 月 28-29 日,新华医院又收治了三位来自华南海鲜市场的病人,他们拥有相似的病毒性肺炎症状。
December 28-29, Xinhua Hospital accepts three more patients from the Huanan Seafood Market with similar unexplained pneumonia-like infections.
> 12 月 29 日下午 1 点,新华医院副院
长夏文广召集十名专家讨论这七名病例,专家一致认为情况不寻常,夏文广直接向省市两级卫健委疾控处报告。
December 29th at 1:00pm the vice president of Xinhua Hospital Xia Wenguang and 10 other experts conduct a meeting discussing the strange incidents of pneumonia. They agree that the situation is unusual and report the situation directly to the disease control office of the provincial and municipal health committees.
> 12 月 30 日,三级疾控中心形成《关于医院报告华南海鲜市场多例肺炎病例情况的调查处置报告》
December 30th, the third level centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) wrote the investigation and disposal report titled "On hospital reports of multiple cases of pneumonia in South China seafood market."
> 同日,武汉市卫健委发布内部通知,提及武汉多家医疗机构确实陆续出现
多例不明原因肺炎病例,并与武汉华南海鲜批发市场有关联,要求各医疗机构上报近一周 接诊过的具有类似特点的不明原因肺炎病人。
December 30th, Wuhan Municipal Health and Health Commission issued an internal notice confirming that multiple medical institutions had been reporting multiple instances of unexplained pneumonia, and that the cases appeared to be related to the Huanan Seafood Market. The Commission further asked all medical institutions to report on all similar cases of unexplained pneumonia taken in in the last week.
> 病人同样姓陈,是一名福建泉州籍的 41 岁海鲜市场个体经营者,12 月 20 日受凉后出现高烧 40°C、全身酸疼发力、咳嗽脓痰、胸闷气短等症状,12 月 26 日在武汉市中心医院后湖院区以“发热查因、肺部感染”住院.
December 26th, another patient (also "Mr. Chen", an operator at the Huanan Seafood Market) presents to the hospital with symptoms such as high fever of 40 ° C, general pain, cough, purulent sputum, chest distress and shortness of breath.
> 12 月 30 日医院对其进行支气管镜取样
December 30th, the hospital took a sample for testing.
> 12 月 30 日下午,样本由武汉市疾控中心一位主任医师取走。1 月 2 日,武汉市疾控 中心另一位研究人员将样本用干冰、铁盒和泡沫箱重重包裹,和其他动物标本一起,经铁路快运送往上海。1 月 3 日,上海公共卫生临床中心张永振教授团队收到样本。
December 30th, the sample was taken by a chief physician at the Wuhan CDC. On January 2nd, the samples were packaged with dry ice and sent to Shanghai. On January 3, Professor Zhang Yongzhen's team from Shanghai public health clinical center received samples.
> 1 月 5 日凌晨,张永振研究团队从样本中检测出一种新型 SARS 样冠状病毒,并通过高通量测序获得了该病毒的全基因组序列;根据测序数据绘制的进化树,也证实武汉新型冠状病毒是历史上从未有过的。
January 5th, Novel coronavirus was detected in the sample by the Zhang Yongzhen research team in the early morning of January 5th. The genome sequence of the virus was obtained through use of high-throughput sequencing. The evolutionary tree drawn from the sequencing data also showed that the new type of coronavirus in Wuhan a type never seen before.
> 1 月 6 日,中国疾控中心内部启动二级应急响应。
January 6th, the Chinese CDC launched a second-degree emergency response.
> 还有数家基因测序公司从武汉医院获得了不明肺炎病例样本。这其中包括 2019 年 12 月 26 日从武汉协和医院收到一份基因测序委托的行业“龙头老大”华大基因。
December 26th, another gene sequencing company (by many considered the leading entrusted gene sequencing company) Huada Gene Company also received a sample.
> 12 月 29 日,华大基因对该病例样本完成的基因测序结果显示,病毒与SARS基因序列相似性高达80%,但不是 SARS,而是一种之前未有的冠状病毒。
December 29th, analysis from Huada Gene Co. shows that the virus has a similarity of up to 80% related to SARS, but that it wasn't SARS, and is instead a new novel coronavirus.
> 12 月 30 日,华大基因将测序结果口头通报给武汉协和医院,称病原体是一种新的冠 状病毒,与 SARS 相似,建议医院向武汉市卫健委报告。
On December 30, Huada Gene Co. orally reported the sequencing results to Wuhan Union Medical College Hospital, calling the pathogen a new coronavirus, similar to SARS. Huada also suggested that the hospital report to Wuhan health and Health Committee.
> 12 月 31 日,他们将三例类 SARS 的冠状病毒混装,即将三个病毒
基因序列片段合在一起形成了一个混装的全基因序列。1 月 1 日,这份混装的新型冠状病毒基因序列提供给了中国疾控中心,三份检测报告也上报武汉市卫健委。
On December 31, Huada Gene Co. mixed three SARS like coronavirus gene sequence fragments together to form a mixed gene sequence approximating the gene sequence of the new virus. On January 1, the gene sequence of the new coronavirus was provided to China CDC, and three test reports were also submitted to Wuhan Municipal Health and Health Commission.
> 同日,华大基因 重新做了整个基因组,当天拿到了一个全基因组序列。1 月 3 日,华大基因对三个样本中的病毒都完成了全基因序列测序。不过,华大方面并没有对外公布这三个样本的新冠病毒基因组序列。
January 1st, Huada Gene Co. started redoing the entire virus genome, and a complete genome was obtained later that day. On January 3rd, all of the virus gene pairs were sequenced. However, Huada did not disclose this information.
> 1 月 1 日,他接到湖北省卫健委一位官员电话,
通知他武汉如有新冠肺炎的病例样本送检,不能再检;已有的病例样本必须销毁,不能对外透露样本信息,不能对外发布相关论文和相关数据,“如果你们在日后检测到了,一定要向我们报告”。
January 1st, a gene sequencing company received a phone call from an official from the Hubei Province Health Commission and is informed that novel coronavirus pneumonia cases in Wuhan were not inspected, and the existing samples must be destroyed.
> 12 月 30 日这天,金银潭医院院长张定宇带领大家
采集了该院最早收治的 7 名病人的支气管肺泡灌洗液,并送往中科院武汉病毒所进行检测。
On December 30, Zhang Dingyu, President of Jinyintan hospital, led an investigation group and collected samples from 7 patients who were first admitted to the hospital and sent to Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences for testing.
> 2020 年 1 月 2 日确定新冠病毒的全基因组序列,1 月 11 日上传至
GISAID 上。
The whole sequence of the virus's genome was obtained on January 2nd, and uploaded to GISAID on January 11th. **[note:in total, 2 weeks had passed since the first indication on December 27th]**
What I quoted is your government official site, besides, it's always easy to point fingers at others, do you seriously believe other governments can do better than China if a completely new, high contagious virus hit them and totally caught them off gurad?He shamelessly keeps repeating over and over a narrative about the US should be blamed/apologize for H1N1 even though Mexico was the source. He's hoping if he repeats it enough here it will "stick". That CDC page he (and I bet millions of other Chinese) quotes is unfortunately ambiguously worded in such a way that to an outsider without context it looks like the US is the source.
Here is the sentence he quotes:
"In the spring of 2009, a novel influenza A (H1N1) virus emerged. It was detected first in the United States and spread quickly across the United States and the world."
Here is what that CDC page sentence really means.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic#History
Initially called an "outbreak", widespread H1N1 infection was first recognized in the state of Veracruz, Mexico, with evidence that the virus had been present for months before it was officially called an "epidemic".[11] The Mexican government closed most of Mexico City's public and private facilities in an attempt to contain the spread of the virus; however, it continued to spread globally, and clinics in some areas were overwhelmed by infected people. The new virus was first isolated in late April by American and Canadian laboratories from samples taken from people with flu in Mexico,
He (and millions of rabid Chinese Nationalists) conveniently forgets Mexicans (not Americans) were shunned in China in 2009 as they didn't want the infection to spread. Meanwhile US visitors had no such restrictions. None at all...zero, zip, zilch.
But somehow 11 years later in 2020 the US was the main culprit!!! LOL!!!
Can you beat that for rewriting history?
What I quoted is your government official site
do you seriously believe other governments can do better than China if a completely new, high contagious virus hit them and totally caught them off gurad?
You government official know it better than you, they say it's from US, and H1N1 largely spreaed around the world from US, and US did very little trying to contain it, those are the facts.What purpose did it serve to quote this specific sentence on that CDC page if you knew FULL WELL that H1N1 originated in Mexico... other than to muddy the facts to intentionally mislead people here on PDF...
No, most Western Governments can't get away with putting metal bars blocking people from getting in and out of their homes (fire safety hazard), spraying 1000's of gallons of strong disinfectants on the streets (environmental concerns), nor can they haul people kicking and screaming off to some unknown quarantine camp (civil rights issue).
You got us beat on taking drastic measures. Nobody questions that.