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Forced conversions of Pontic Greeks,that's what I said.


Well,yours has already come out. And the whole world knows about it. That's why I "get on the defensive" when you try to come on top and try to present it as if you are the victims and always had been the victims.

Which world knows about it ?

All the sources says you massacred Turks and you have zero source that Turks massacred you.

Forced conversions of Pontic Greeks,that's what I said.

we didnt forced no one but they had plan to convert us, so it is deep issue as i said before. You know nothing about Turkey and it is long story. it is better to stop it. You are right i m right thats it.
 
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All the sources says you massacred Turks and you have zero source that Turks massacred you.

Sources. You want sources?


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The Turk wants to come on top "you have no sources hur dur".

we didnt forced no one but they had plan to convert us, so it is deep issue as i said before. You know nothing about Turkey and it is long story. it is better to stop it. You are right i m right thats it.
WHO HAD A PLAN TO CONVERT YOU? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you joking? When you present the Pontian Greeks with either extermination,expulsion or conversion to Islam,what do you expect? "We didn't forced no one". Oh yeah? They just converted to Islam one day,just like that?
 
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Sources. You want sources?


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The Turk wants to come on top "you have no sources hur dur".


WHO HAD A PLAN TO CONVERT YOU? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you joking? When you present the Pontian Greeks with either extermination,expulsion or conversion to Islam,what do you expect? "We didn't forced no one". Oh yeah? They just converted to Islam one day,just like that?

Allies of the First World War gived you miss informations to hostile us we never killed no one in our lands, if it is happen also we would be know, but we done population exchange between Greece and Turkey on 1923. if someone wanna go they went if they wanna stay they stay.

hah unutmadan, this is our some sources which massacred by greeks


WHO HAD A PLAN TO CONVERT YOU? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you joking? When you present the Pontian Greeks with either extermination,expulsion or conversion to Islam,what do you expect? "We didn't forced no one". Oh yeah? They just converted to Islam one day,just like that?

Yeap our alphabet changed, clothes changed, mosques closed, Islam banned, Turkish culture and history removed so on.

So it is mean so deep but if i say somethings truths it is still forbidden in my country according to some laws.

Thats why you know nothing about Turkey if you know please tell truths and inform to people :lol:
 
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to believe that the Greeks descend from heaven, must stop with this Greek mythology created by European historians, the Greeks no longer existed since the Romans, Romans beaten by the Turks, today the origin of a Greek is an Albanian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Moldovan, Macedonian, Turkish, Serbian.
ancient Greek has been extinct for thousands of years.
Yes, the Greeks massacre civilians, as can be seen with the poor migrants fleeing war in their countries. None of these migrants dream of living in Greece they all want to go to the real Europe, Western Europe.

 
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Allies of the First World War gived you miss informations to hostile us we never killed no one in our lands, if it is happen also we would be know, but we done population exchange between Greece and Turkey on 1923. if someone wanna go they went if they wanna stay they stay.
That's your excuse? If that's your excuse then we don't have anything to talk about. You're someone who refuses to acknowledge sources and events. What is there to talk about? All you've been doing since the first page was say "oh no,Greek don't have documentation,only Turks have,here have a list of books". What is there to talk about then? Forget it.

Yeap our alphabet changed, clothes changed, mosques closed, Islam banned, Turkish culture and history removed so on.

So it is mean so deep but if i say somethings truths it is still forbidden in my country according to some laws.
What does that have to do with what I said in the previous post? You're now saying that Turkish culture had progressed so fast into a completely un-islamic culture,that forced conversions did not happen? You're being ridiculous. And you know that.

to believe that the Greeks descend from heaven, must stop with this Greek mythology created by European historians, the Greeks no longer existed since the Romans, Romans beaten by the Turks, today the origin of a Greek is an Albanian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Moldovan, Macedonian, Turkish, Serbian.
You're historically ingnorant. Romans didn't wipe out the Greeks. Byzantium was the Eastern Roman Empire. The amalgamation of Roman and Hellenic culture with Eastern Orthodox Christianity as the main religion. The majority of the population were Greeks who called themselves Romans,seeing themselves as the legal inheritors of the Roman Empire. Progressively,towards the latter Byzantine and medieval period,while they continued to call themselves Romans officially,they also started calling themselves Hellenes more often.The word stopped being a term for adherents of the Dodekatheon and had an ethnic meaning again.

European sources of the medieval era refer to the Byzantines as "Greeks".

In the same way of your stupid allegation,one could say that today's Turks are Greeks,Armenians,Kurds,Arabs,Bulgarians,Persians and Georgians.

Yes, the Greeks massacre civilians, as can be seen with the poor migrants fleeing war in their countries. None of these migrants dream of living in Greece they all want to go to the real Europe, Western Europe.
Another idiotic fake news. Greeks do not kill "poor migrants",like your propaganda machine keeps talking about. On the contrary,you're the ones who prod them towards us,you tolerate and assist the human traffickers to send them towards the Greek coasts and we're the ones trying to save them. Turkey should be the last country to point the finger,when your government is weaponizing human suffering and using them as a means of pressure.

 
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That's your excuse? If that's your excuse then we don't have anything to talk about. You're someone who refuses to acknowledge sources and events. What is there to talk about? All you've been doing since the first page was say "oh no,Greek don't have documentation,only Turks have,here have a list of books". What is there to talk about then? Forget it.


What does that have to do with what I said in the previous post? You're now saying that Turkish culture had progressed so fast into a completely un-islamic culture,that forced conversions did not happen? You're being ridiculous. And you know that.


You're historically ingnorant. Romans didn't wipe out the Greeks. Byzantium was the Eastern Roman Empire. The amalgamation of Roman and Hellenic culture with Eastern Orthodox Christianity as the main religion. The majority of the population were Greeks who called themselves Romans,seeing themselves as the legal inheritors of the Roman Empire. Progressively,towards the latter Byzantine and medieval period,while they continued to call themselves Romans officially,they also started calling themselves Hellenes more often.The word stopped being a term for adherents of the Dodekatheon and had an ethnic meaning again.

European sources of the medieval era refer to the Byzantines as "Greeks".

In the same way of your stupid allegation,one could say that today's Turks are Greeks,Armenians,Kurds,Arabs,Bulgarians,Persians and Georgians.


Another idiotic fake news. Greeks do not kill "poor migrants",like your propaganda machine keeps talking about. On the contrary,you're the ones who prod them towards us,you tolerate and assist the human traffickers to send them towards the Greek coasts and we're the ones trying to save them. Turkey should be the last country to point the finger,when your government is weaponizing human suffering and using them as a means of pressure.


Why you allways refuse everything, there are many videos that greek cost guard tryed to sink imigrant boats also rob everything of imigrants send back with damaged naked body.

I think your government and its media channels trolling greek people all the time. You really hate too much about Turks, while we think greeks are our neighbour. You should love to people for sake of God. Human is human past is past and looking future.
 
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Allies of the First World War gived you miss informations to hostile us we never killed no one in our lands
Are you truly so naive? Or you just refuse to believe it? You're just told at school that Turks are the bravest nation and woohoo Turks are honorable and conquer hearts and minds,like your leader says?

Here,boy. This was my grandfather's village.

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My uncle's description of the events and dates,coming from my grandfather,agrees with the information here. I don't know if anyone else managed to survive,but my grandfather did.

There were so many survivors with similar stories. From Pontus,central Anatolia,the coastal regions,Smyrne,Constantinople.

Your stupid assumption of "WWI allies gave misinformation" is ridiculous. The war had already ended in 1918.

And the thing is that it's not just the Greeks accusing you of massacres and genocide. You've harmed a lot of other ethnicites.


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Don't come here talking to me about "honorable" and "noble" Turks. Enough is enough. You have to finally admit this.

@waz @LeGenD @Deino You guys have to lock this thread. It will only lead to flaming and fighting and in the end banning.
 
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I think your government and its media channels trolling greek people all the time. You really hate too much about Turks, while we think greeks are our neighbour. You should love to people for sake of God. Human is human past is past and looking future.
Oh my...your hypocrisy! YOUR HYPOCRISY! Unbelievable! Your government constantly talks about Greece and twists the truth and you say that we are obsessed with you and hate you? And you supposedly only think we are your neighbors? Is that why you're government is stuck all the time making fake news about "Greek Coast Guard sinking refugee boats" and constantly mentioning that we should demilitarize the islands,we should not look for oil,we should not drill in Cyprus,we should not upgrade our army or that we are supposedly provoking Turkey or that we have "maximalist foreign policy" and "dreams of expansionism"??

OH THE HYPOCRISY! Who? The AKP government and MHP accuses us of all that. When you're arming like crazy,you're making bases here and there,you got involved in Syria,Iraq,NKR and Libya and you've been provoking us like crazy,trying to push tens of thousands of immigrants at our borders in Evros and sending the rest on boats by sea.

And then you have Akar and Cavusoglu saying "Yunanistan should give up it's expansionist and provocative policies".
the Greeks were never warriors, they never had an empire, since the Romans enslaved them, more than 2000 years, we must stop inventing stories for us, this proves one thing that the Turks let the Greeks live on their territories, we can not say that afterwards the Greeks left the Muslims on their territories.
The big mistake of the Ottoman Empire was to leave the Greek Orthodox free after the defeat of the Romans.
Malaka,go read some history,start at least from the Classical period onwards and then when you're done,come back and apologize. Because right now you're either trolling or ridiculing yourself by showing us how ignorant you are.
 
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Since the arrival of the Romans, Greece and the Greeks are no more than a mixture of different populations.
Besides, Greece does not exist on any of the maps after J.C
Roman empire :
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Roman who is behind the construction of Hagia Sophia, neither Greek nor Russian but Roman.

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Now these Greeks claim Hagia Sophia when they have not built anything, moreover they no longer existed at that time, since the Romans ruled the whole region.
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Hagia Sophia was taken over by the Turks from the Romans, Greeks or others have no rights to a work they did not build.
 
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Since the arrival of the Romans, Greece and the Greeks are no more than a mixture of different populations.
Besides, Greece does not exist on any of the maps after J.C
Roman empire :
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Constantine I
Roman who is behind the construction of Hagia Sophia, neither Greek nor Russian but Roman.

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Now these Greeks claim Hagia Sophia when they have not built anything, moreover they no longer existed at that time, since the Romans ruled the whole region.
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Hagia Sophia was taken over by the Turks from the Romans, Greeks or others have no rights to a work they did not build.
Truly you're ignorant of Byzantine history...either that or you're trolling or you really are in denial. I'm not going to continue to play your trolling game. It's beyond ridiculous.
 
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Truly you're ignorant of Byzantine history...either that or you're trolling or you really are in denial. I'm not going to continue to play your trolling game. It's beyond ridiculous.


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"Byzantinae" has since spread through western European scholars and gradually replaced the name Roman as used in the Eastern Roman Empire by the term Byzantine, to denote medieval Greek-speaking literature from the Eastern Roman Empire. This replacement reflects the feud between east and west over the title of Emperor of the Romans,

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Definition Byzantine: this term is a modern invention. The Byzantines called themselves either ‘Romans’ or ‘Greeks’. Invented by the classical scholar.

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you repeat what you learned in school in the books of Western European historians but basically you don't know your past.
It's amazing not to know your past at that time.

Come back when you have arguments, for now you make me open files that are not to your advantage. Even you believe in the existence of the Byzantine Empire in the 14th century.
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Definition Byzantine: this term is a modern invention. The Byzantines called themselves either ‘Romans’ or ‘Greeks’. Invented by the classical scholar.

Thank you for making my point. The Byzantines,the Eastern Roman Empire's citizens in their majority were Greeks.

And if that's not enough for you:



"The Byzantine Greeks were the Greek-speaking Eastern Romans of Orthodox Christianity throughout Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages.[1] They were the main inhabitants of the lands of the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire), of Constantinople and Asia Minor (modern Turkey), the Greek islands, Cyprus, and portions of the southern Balkans, and formed large minorities, or pluralities, in the coastal urban centres of the Levant and northern Egypt. Throughout their history, the Byzantine Greeks self-identified as Romans (Greek: Ῥωμαῖοι, romanized: Rhōmaîoi), but are referred to as "Byzantine Greeks" in modern historiography. Latin speakers identified them simply as Greeks or with the term Romei."

You basically posted to show me that I'm right. Thank you.
 
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Thank you for making my point. The Byzantines,the Eastern Roman Empire's citizens in their majority were Greeks.

And if that's not enough for you:



"The Byzantine Greeks were the Greek-speaking Eastern Romans of Orthodox Christianity throughout Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages.[1] They were the main inhabitants of the lands of the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire), of Constantinople and Asia Minor (modern Turkey), the Greek islands, Cyprus, and portions of the southern Balkans, and formed large minorities, or pluralities, in the coastal urban centres of the Levant and northern Egypt. Throughout their history, the Byzantine Greeks self-identified as Romans (Greek: Ῥωμαῖοι, romanized: Rhōmaîoi), but are referred to as "Byzantine Greeks" in modern historiography. Latin speakers identified them simply as Greeks or with the term Romei."

You basically posted to show me that I'm right. Thank you.


They were the main inhabitants of the lands of the Byzantine Empire, hahaha :big_boss:


just this part shows that historians lie, but what if there were only Greeks from where bulgarians, Romanians, Moldovans, Serbs, Hungarians etc. appear? they fall from the sky?.
The Byzantine Empire is only a political invention of the Europeans, and the Greeks no longer exist, today's Greece is only a mixture of Slavs, Turks, and other peoples.
the Byzantine Empire a beautiful modern invention, tomorrow we will call the Americans by a term Maya or Inca.

the Romans were not Greek, let alone Cesar and they were much stronger and more numerous
 
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They were the main inhabitants of the lands of the Byzantine Empire, hahaha :big_boss:


just this part shows that historians lie, but what if there were only Greeks from where bulgarians, Romanians, Moldovans, Serbs, Hungarians etc. appear? they fall from the sky?.
The Byzantine Empire is only a political invention of the Europeans, and the Greeks no longer exist, today's Greece is only a mixture of Slavs, Turks, and other peoples.
the Byzantine Empire a beautiful modern invention, tomorrow we will call the Americans by a term Maya or Inca.

the Romans were not Greek, let alone Cesar and they were much stronger and more numerous
Malaka stop smoking weed. The term Byzantine Empire refers to the Eastern Roman Empire. It doesn't change anything.

It's like saying Ottoman Turks or simply Turks when referring to 19th century Turkey for example.

We're not talking about the Romans of ancient Rome. We're talking about the Romans of what is now called the Eastern Roman Empire,the part that had a majority ethnic greek population. How difficult is it for you to understand it? Nobody claims ancient Rome.

In your previous post,you provided a source that says term Byzantine was a modern invention. Yes,we all know that. And then it says "They called themselves Roman or Greek".

@Apollon @IblinI @aryobarzan @Vergennes take a look at this guy.
 
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Malaka stop smoking weed. The term Byzantine Empire refers to the Eastern Roman Empire. It doesn't change anything.

It's like saying Ottoman Turks or simply Turks when referring to 19th century Turkey for example.

We're not talking about the Romans of ancient Rome. We're talking about the Romans of what is now called the Eastern Roman Empire,the part that had a majority ethnic greek population. How difficult is it for you to understand it? Nobody claims ancient Rome.

In your previous post,you provided a source that says term Byzantine was a modern invention. Yes,we all know that. And then it says "They called themselves Roman or Greek".

@Apollon @IblinI @aryobarzan @Vergennes take a look at this guy.

Why even bother discussing history with a guy called Risotto?

Laugh smile and thats it.
They were the main inhabitants of the lands of the Byzantine Empire, hahaha :big_boss:


just this part shows that historians lie, but what if there were only Greeks from where bulgarians, Romanians, Moldovans, Serbs, Hungarians etc. appear? they fall from the sky?.
The Byzantine Empire is only a political invention of the Europeans, and the Greeks no longer exist, today's Greece is only a mixture of Slavs, Turks, and other peoples.
the Byzantine Empire a beautiful modern invention, tomorrow we will call the Americans by a term Maya or Inca.

the Romans were not Greek, let alone Cesar and they were much stronger and more numerous

Wrong, today greeks are genetical identical to old greeks even back to minoan times





No mix like in turkey, its that simple.

We are pure, you are...well you know it yourself, whatever you are.

We have the genetical prove. You have nothing.

On a side note, rome was based on greek colonies on the italian peninsular.
 
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