109th anniversary of the Republic of China. October. 10

[beijingwalker]

Ode For Republic Of China

The grasslands of Qinghai cannot be seen at a glance.

In the Himalayas, the peaks and peaks are connected to the horizon.

Ancient saints and sages, built a home here,

overlooked the wind howling and rain beating for five thousand years,

Chorus:
Republic of China, Republic of China,
Withstands tests,
As long as the waters of the Yellow and Yangtze Rivers are constant,
Republic of China, Republic of China,
Everlasting, forever.



“The grasslands of Qinghai cannot be seen at a glance"

"In the Himalayas, the peaks and peaks are connected to the horizon."

"As long as the waters of the Yellow and Yangtze Rivers are constant, "

 

[tower9]

I wish the ROC still ruled all of China.

 

[S10]

I wish the ROC still ruled all of China.

Hell no, KMT is famously incompetent. If they can't even handle DPP on Taiwan, they don't deserve the run shit.

 

[leviathan]

I wish the ROC still ruled all of China.

I wish the Native still ruled all of America.

 

[tower9]

I wish the Native still ruled all of America.

Me too

 

[cgy]

I wish the Native still ruled all of America.

Don't forget Australia, Canada and New Zealand. If the Aborigines were there, the world would be much more peaceful today.

I wish the ROC still ruled all of China.

I don't want to be ruled by a century old rotten party and comprador group.
我可不希望被一个百年烂党和买办集团统治。

 

[beijingwalker]

I wish the ROC still ruled all of China.

If wishes were horses

 

[KurtisBrian]

Don't worry. God knows all even if we do not. In his own time and way God will bring justice and punish those traitors.

 

[Chhatrapati]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1314838544993546240

 

[mike2000 is back]

Hell no, KMT is famously incompetent. If they can't even handle DPP on Taiwan, they don't deserve the run shit.

You comparing apple and oranges. For one, KMT ruled China at the most instable/troublesome period of China's history from Sun Yat sen to Chiang. One thing is for sure, they both loved China and wanted a strong unified China. However, it wasn't easy to come by giving that troublesome period and the various warlords/foreign power preying on The Chinese(Soviet Russia in the north, Imperial Japan from the East , Great Britain/France, U.S from the South etc etc). So NO MATTER THE PARTY WHO RULED THAT PERIOD, it wouldn't have been easy for any of them to really build up the country and industrialised the country the way they wanted giving the state of the region/country back then and a world war that was being fought at the same time with a far more formidable enemy, while fighting rebels/warlords/militias at home. Do you think if it was the CCP it would have faired better AT THE PERIOD OF TIME? You have to know that its only when a country is united that they can even stand a chance to stand up and fight properly. The KMT couldn't since China was not really united back then. If the KMT had ruled a united stable China then i would have understood if you judged their track record. However they had so many things to contend with. The nationalists did try to modernise the Chinese Army for example prior to WWII, but Japan invasion and the fight against Communist rebels/warlords back then hampered all that eventually.
Moreover, KMT not being able to handle DPP is wrong. The KMT was drove from Chinese mainland by the communists, and when they settled in Taiwan they were still a one party state and ruthless to the inhabitants as well. However, with the passage of time, they realised that they couldn't keep up with this dictatorship, and they were ruling a far smaller country and so they didn't have any leverage whatsoever over any country/power. So they were more prone to pressure coming not only from fear of invasion by the communists in the mainland but even more so from the US(their only real support against an invasion). So their situation was totally different.
Imagine the CCP lost the war and fled to Taiwan, while the KMT adopted a more expansionist policy(they were quite nationalistic and they wanted to take back all the territories the GOD father of communism Soviet Russia illegally seized from China those past decades, i.e( Mongolia, part of outer Manchuria, part of central Asian states etc ). So in this situation Russia would have obviously viewed them as a threat and given their full support to the CCP to weaken them and create more troubles(like they did earlier in the 20s-40s). Do you think the CCP wouldn't have taken all the help they could from their only big supporter against an invasion by the KMT(and so would have obviously make concessions to the Soviets)? So i don't see why you judge the KMT differently. different situation demands different actions.
Governing/ruling a big country is different from ruling a small one.

 

[Place Of Space]

You comparing apple and oranges. For one, KMT ruled China at the most instable/troublesome period of China's history from Sun Yat sen to Chiang. One thing is for sure, they both loved China and wanted a strong unified China. However, it wasn't easy to come by giving that troublesome period and the various warlords/foreign power preying on The Chinese(Soviet Russia in the north, Imperial Japan from the East , Great Britain/France, U.S from the South etc etc). So NO MATTER THE PARTY WHO RULED THAT PERIOD, it wouldn't have been easy for any of them to really build up the country and industrialised the country the way they wanted giving the state of the region/country back then and a world war that was being fought at the same time with a far more formidable enemy, while fighting rebels/warlords/militias at home. Do you think if it was the CCP it would have faired better AT THE PERIOD OF TIME? You have to know that its only when a country is united that they can even stand a chance to stand up and fight properly. The KMT couldn't since China was not really united back then. If the KMT had ruled a united stable China then i would have understood if you judged their track record. However they had so many things to contend with. The nationalists did try to modernise the Chinese Army for example prior to WWII, but Japan invasion and the fight against Communist rebels/warlords back then hampered all that eventually.
Moreover, KMT not being able to handle DPP is wrong. The KMT was drove from Chinese mainland by the communists, and when they settled in Taiwan they were still a one party state and ruthless to the inhabitants as well. However, with the passage of time, they realised that they couldn't keep up with this dictatorship, and they were ruling a far smaller country and so they didn't have any leverage whatsoever over any country/power. So they were more prone to pressure coming not only from fear of invasion by the communists in the mainland but even more so from the US(their only real support against an invasion). So their situation was totally different.
Imagine the CCP lost the war and fled to Taiwan, while the KMT adopted a more expansionist policy(they were quite nationalistic and they wanted to take back all the territories the GOD father of communism Soviet Russia illegally seized from China those past decades, i.e( Mongolia, part of outer Manchuria, part of central Asian states etc ). So in this situation Russia would have obviously viewed them as a threat and given their full support to the CCP to weaken them and create more troubles(like they did earlier in the 20s-40s). Do you think the CCP wouldn't have taken all the help they could from their only big supporter against an invasion by the KMT(and so would have obviously make concessions to the Soviets)? So i don't see why you judge the KMT differently. different situation demands different actions.
Governing/ruling a big country is different from ruling a small one.

You don't know things, which I am going to correct you.
1. KMT lost the civil war because KMT lost most people's support.
2. Before 2000 (it's a probable time, there no exact time axis ), KMT dictatorship didn't face invasion.

 

[S10]

You comparing apple and oranges. For one, KMT ruled China at the most instable/troublesome period of China's history from Sun Yat sen to Chiang. One thing is for sure, they both loved China and wanted a strong unified China. However, it wasn't easy to come by giving that troublesome period and the various warlords/foreign power preying on The Chinese(Soviet Russia in the north, Imperial Japan from the East , Great Britain/France, U.S from the South etc etc). So NO MATTER THE PARTY WHO RULED THAT PERIOD, it wouldn't have been easy for any of them to really build up the country and industrialised the country the way they wanted giving the state of the region/country back then and a world war that was being fought at the same time with a far more formidable enemy, while fighting rebels/warlords/militias at home. Do you think if it was the CCP it would have faired better AT THE PERIOD OF TIME? You have to know that its only when a country is united that they can even stand a chance to stand up and fight properly. The KMT couldn't since China was not really united back then. If the KMT had ruled a united stable China then i would have understood if you judged their track record. However they had so many things to contend with. The nationalists did try to modernise the Chinese Army for example prior to WWII, but Japan invasion and the fight against Communist rebels/warlords back then hampered all that eventually.
Moreover, KMT not being able to handle DPP is wrong. The KMT was drove from Chinese mainland by the communists, and when they settled in Taiwan they were still a one party state and ruthless to the inhabitants as well. However, with the passage of time, they realised that they couldn't keep up with this dictatorship, and they were ruling a far smaller country and so they didn't have any leverage whatsoever over any country/power. So they were more prone to pressure coming not only from fear of invasion by the communists in the mainland but even more so from the US(their only real support against an invasion). So their situation was totally different.
Imagine the CCP lost the war and fled to Taiwan, while the KMT adopted a more expansionist policy(they were quite nationalistic and they wanted to take back all the territories the GOD father of communism Soviet Russia illegally seized from China those past decades, i.e( Mongolia, part of outer Manchuria, part of central Asian states etc ). So in this situation Russia would have obviously viewed them as a threat and given their full support to the CCP to weaken them and create more troubles(like they did earlier in the 20s-40s). Do you think the CCP wouldn't have taken all the help they could from their only big supporter against an invasion by the KMT(and so would have obviously make concessions to the Soviets)? So i don't see why you judge the KMT differently. different situation demands different actions.
Governing/ruling a big country is different from ruling a small one.

Coulda, shoulda, woulda but they didn't. They had their chance and failed miserably.

• They failed to bring warlords under control and unite the country.
• They failed to maintain control of Outer Mongolia, Tibet and Xinjiang.
• They failed to properly industrialize China even during the "Golden Decade".
• They failed to fight the Japanese effectively, still losing territory a month before Japan surrendered.
• They failed to defeat CCP when they had more men and resources in 1946.
• They failed to hold on to power against DPP on a tiny island.
• They failed to defend interests of the Chinese nation, instead they join the Americunt and Jap containment efforts against China.

It's a party of pure failure, with its fans being delusional idiots. KMT supporters can only fantasize about what some alternative history could have been and how unfair history was to them. CCP, despite all of its f*ck-ups, actually made shit happen.

1. Largest industrial power on earth
2. Regained control of Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia
3. Fought Americans to a standstill in North Korea within 3 years of gaining power

If you bothered to read my old posts, I shit on CCP all the time for past corruption and incompetence. And yet they're still a much better organized and competent organization than KMT can ever hope be. From the looks of it, DPP will choke KMT to death in a few years. Hopefully by then you will wake up from the KMT delusion.

Losers whine about how hard they tried and how bad they had it. That's what KMT fans do with their excuse making. Winners take the trophies and f*ck the prom queen, because results are what matters in the end. It's extra funny when you mention Sun Yatsen because CCP is making his dreams happen, while KMT is complaining about how mean DPP is on a rock.