10 terrorists entering India: The real story behind the alert from Pakistan

[Abingdonboy]

New Delhi, Mar 9: A few days back there was an alert from Pakistan stating that ten terrorists had entered India. The security mechanism went into a tizzy with vigil being upped in Gujarat, Delhi among other places.

The question is where are these terrorists? It has been almost five days since the alert and none of them have been found leave alone being tracked at least. Real story behind the alert from Pak The question is did ten terrorists really come into India? If they have then where are there and why is the police of so many states unable to find them. Why is there not even a single bleep on the radar of the Intelligence Bureau. Even the Intelligence United States of America says that there is nothing as of now to suggest that ten terrorists have entered. Things brings us to the question- why did Pakistan issue the alert? Why did Pakistan issue this alert? A highly placed source in Delhi tells OneIndia that there are two reasons behind this alert being issued by Pakistan.

Post the Pathankot attack India felt extremely let down especially since it came a few days after Prime Minister Narendra Modi took the bold decision to visit Pakistan. Pakistan was under a lot of pressure not only from India, but from the United States of America. America instructed Pakistan to act on terror and also ensure that there is no break down of talks with India. The visit by Modi was seen as a welcome move by the rest of the world as it is important that India and Pakistan continue to make attempts at talking peace. Although Pakistan has claimed that it has registered cases against some persons involved in the Pathankot attack, it is a well know fact that they will not go all out. Some of the seminaries of the Jaish-e-Mohammad continue to operate and there is no concrete action against its chief Maulana Masood Azhar who continues to remain in "protective custody." In the back drop of all this such an alert being issued which itself is a rare occurrence appears as a good will gesture by Pakistan. It also shows that Pakistan is attempting to build bridges with India and this alert was meant to wipe out a trust deficit. Whether the alert is correct or not is one part of the issue, but the larger meaning was to earn India's trust. While this is one part of the story, officials with the Intelligence Bureau say that they also need to scrutinise this move carefully.

Issuing one such alert and sharing it with India does not mean that the trust deficit is wiped out completely. Pakistan cannot assure that none of the non state actors will tow the line. This second point is important since such an alert also could well be a way of Pakistan trying to wash its hands off in case there is indeed an attack in India. If such an attack were to take place, then Pakistan can always say, " see we told you."
http://www.oneindia.com/india/10-te...-story-behind-the-alert-pakistan-2035590.html
10 terrorists entering India: The real story behind the alert from Pakistan - Oneindia
One week on and no trace of 10 terrorists despite a massive nationwide manhunt being launched.

The point that the IB did not have prior intel until the Pak NSA announced this is rather telling, the IB is always on a hair trigger when it comes to issuing alerts and has a very decent network to pre-warn of such incidents. Furthermore, that the US didn't provide any inputs in this regard further counts against the Pakistani "warning"- unless the Pak NSA has information only he can have because he has an inside connection with these groups.

The part about plausible deniability makes sense up to a point but only if an attack takes place or the terrorists are caught, the fact that there seems to be no evidence they even existed means this explanation falls rather short of being convincing.

Perhaps it was a test to see India's security apparatus? NSG teams were despatched and perhaps certain elements in Pakistan were interested to measure such response times so as to feed it into their plans? In that case the Pak NSA may have been unaware he was assisting in such preperations.

It's all very very sketchy.

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[axisofevil]

My only advice when working with Pakistan never ever let your guard down. Never fully trust them. You will be let down big time.

 

[Abingdonboy]

My only advice when working with Pakistan never ever let your guard down. Never fully trust them. You will be let down big time.

No doubt, the people who actualy run Pakistan are FAR smarter and more strategically inclined than the majority of those who are in senior postions in India. Most of the time the leadership in India is oblivious to the fact they are being played.

 

[Kompromat]

This is precisely why even a shred of security cooperation with India is an absolutely stupid idea. In the end they are going to leave you with piss on your face with their imaginary Bollywood plots being pushed as factual analysis.

 

[Abingdonboy]

This is precisely why even a shred of security cooperation with India is an absolutely stupid idea. In they end they are going to leave you with piss on your face with their imaginary Bollywood plots being pushed as factual analysis.

Wow, so you're turning around seemingly fictional inputs by PAKISTAN'S NSA to India (that were confirmed by your side) around as a Bollywood plot now? Don't forget which side started this whole drama.

It's a stupid idea when there is no validity to the information you are providing.

 

[Armstrong]

Damned if you do....damned if you don't !

 

[Abingdonboy]

Damn if you do....damn if you don't !

Not quite....what exactly did Pakistan "do"? Shared what now seems to have been complete fiction with the Indian side.

This isn't exactly behaviour that India should be grateful for, is it?

 

[Armstrong]

Not quite....what exactly did Pakistan "do"? Shared what now seems to have been complete fiction with the Indian side.

This isn't exactly behaviour that India should be grateful for, is it?

Thats exactly why I said what I said....

 

[IndoCarib]

Testing the security apparatus is a plausible explanation. If that is the case IB needs to do it often. No more Pathankots.

 

[volatile]

Yea your forces are so effective that it was a waste ,this was a serios effort to let you know some thing bad might happened but it was a drama as per your analysis ,this is cooperation from our end but Alas it is always negativity from your side .I propose stop AFG funding sit down with each other resolve all core issues and move along for the betterment of people .And please for the love of God dont start Uttut Ang Rut ,We all know what it is

 

[axisofevil]

No doubt, the people who actualy run Pakistan are FAR smarter and more strategically inclined than the majority of those who are in senior postions in India. Most of the time the leadership in India is oblivious to the fact they are being played.

Exactly, their track record is proof enough. And the point you mentioned about those running Pakistan are more strategically inclined is spot on. India needs to make sure it appoints a group or a position/positions that specifically is free of political influence and interference and has the ear of all politicians/ PM when it needs to part relevant information in the defense, security related sphere. In reality anything dealing with India should have such their input noted.


I wonder if a chief of staff would help or is that a separate issue all together?

 

[That Guy]

Not quite....what exactly did Pakistan "do"? Shared what now seems to have been complete fiction with the Indian side.

This isn't exactly behaviour that India should be grateful for, is it?

You can call it fiction all you want, but if an attack does occur, let it be known that Pakistan was the one that tried to prevent it.

Catching terrorists isn't a 9-5 job, you don't go to work, catch a terrorists in a day, and then go home. These things take time, it can take weeks, even months to do so.

No doubt that as soon as this information became public, the group may have gone into hiding, which would be the logical thing to do.

As it is, this article isn't nothing more than a piece of sensationalism, to rile up the public.

My only advice when working with Pakistan never ever let your guard down. Never fully trust them. You will be let down big time.

Your advice is as worthless as you not wanting to trust Pakistan.

Pakistan did something it didn't have to, it's up to India to believe this or not. If an attack occurs, it's no longer a Pakistani concern.

 

[Abingdonboy]

You can call it fiction all you want, but if an attack does occur, let it be known that Pakistan was the one that tried to prevent it.

Right- plausible deniability.

But the question that arises from this explanation is, how did the Pak NSA know about such an infiltration when the Indian and American intel agencies had no such input?

Catching terrorists isn't a 9-5 job, you don't go to work, catch a terrorists in a day, and then go home. These things take time, it can take weeks, even months to do so.

It's true but the fact that there has not been a single bit of evidence uncovered that they ever entered India (no sightings, no kidnappings, no suspicious tracks along the border etc) is what is most telling. There doesn't seem to be a trial to follow, all there is is the word of the Pak NSA.

If an attack occurs, it's no longer a Pakistani concern.

What a foolish hope. Just providing the vaugest of intel does not rid Pakistan of all culpability- they will still have been Pakistani terrorists that infiltrated from Pakistan. That will provoke the typical awkward questions for Pakistan- who trained them? How were they radicalised? How did they exist in training and planning inside Pakistan with no security agency intervening? How did they leave Pakistani soil unchallenged? etc etc

 

[ranjeet]

Who sent them? If India can't find the terrorists I am sure Pakistan can take action against the "Non State Actors" for sending terrorists across an International border from their territory.

 

[Abingdonboy]

India needs to make sure it appoints a group or a position/positions that specifically is free of political influence and interference and has the ear of all politicians/ PM when it needs to part relevant information in the defense, security related sphere. In reality anything dealing with India should have such their input noted.

That's the job of the intel agencies and the NSA is it not?

Who sent them?

Well isn't that the question that all Pakistanis are trying to dodge? For them it is a case of "we gave you this ambiguous input, take it and be grateful, ask no more questions"