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India does not possess the political leadership with the moral fibre or the necessary willpower among its key battling constituents to create a national reconciliation, argues Sanjay Jha.

The clamour to share the news of victory spoils of a six-decade long religious dispute by irrationally exuberant lawyers typified the chaotic, raging passions behind the centuries-old subject.

Since the historical narration of events in chronological order since the days of Emperor Babar has already been thoroughly documented in several media essays, it is pertinent to immediately come to the critical question following the controversial Allahabad high court verdict of September 30, 2010: Does India truly believe that it can move on and ahead?

My personal views:

1. Three out of 10 Muslims in India live below the poverty line, and one-third earn below Rs 550 a month, thus we miss the woods for the trees if we are naive enough to delude ourselves that the India of 2010 is really very different from that of 1992.

Poverty has perpetuated itself, income disparities rule.

Ironically enough, on Thursday there were several news-scrolls talking about Mukesh Ambani's latest top billionaire ranking.

A booming Sensex and GDP growth of 9 per cent is meaningless in the absence of fair distribution; it does not detract from the germane, irrefutable fact, has the economic lot of the Muslims truly changed even as India accelerates heavily on the foot-pedal of world commerce?

And remember, religion becomes a comforting cocoon of the vulnerable and dispossessed.

2. Was not the act of December 1949, when through blatant mischief (courtesy a bureaucrat), a Ram Lalla statue was suddenly placed inside the Babri mosque (claiming the miraculous appearance of the Hindu legendary god-king), the triggering point of the whole Babri Masjid-Ram Janambhoomi problem in post-Independent India?

How can the Indian courts quietly condone that flagrant violation of mutual respect for each other's religious abode?

Are not all political parties guilty of willful negligence?

Why did the Allahabad high court ignore such damning transgressions?

3. Once again, in February 1986, there was a verdict given by the local district judge allowing worship to happen in the Babri Masjid(otherwise locked for several decades) which was in synchronicity with the fast-changing political dynamics of the country.

Thus, have we not made Muslims a sacrificial pawn on our political chessboard?

4. The Shilanyas performed in 1989, even if on an undisputed location, was a tacit endorsement of Hindu territorial claims, and ended up encouraging belligerent nationalism over the Ram Janambhoomi issue.

Did not all mainstream parties play the communal card all along?

Can we really blame the Muslim community for believing that they are truly part of India's 'Minority Report'?

5. We are all aware of the fact that it was the Congress party's knee-jerk over-reaction to the Shah Bano verdict that encouraged the BJP to rouse sentiments on the Ram Janambhoomi issue.

The whole rath yatra, the subsequent communal riots and the senseless bloodshed that followed was a political strategy that exploited religious vulnerabilities.

Thus, does the high court judgment end up unwittingly perhaps playing into a political minefield by legitimising the communal designs of our devious national leaders? Is that fair?

If god forbid, there is an eventual backlash, should we be surprised?

6. The fully orchestrated destruction of the Babri Masjid in December 1992 via a militant mob led by the senior patriarchs of the Sangh Parivar was universally condemned.

But tell me, where does tolerant Hinduism unequivocally or nebulously state that we Hindus should practise our religious chores after destroying a sacred place of worship of another religion?

Does not that stand against the very principles of a religion that has several gods, besides Lord Ram?

Is not Thursday's 'triumph' specious?

7. The quiet burial given to the much-delayed Liberhan Commission's findings is symptomatic of how India's political parties have played havoc with minority sentiments in India.

Can you genuinely blame the Muslims for being so callously short-changed? That the political masterminds of the Babri rubble-plot are now making grandiose plans of a Ram temple must be surely disquieting.

8. Please do not take the immediate peaceful aftermath of the Ayodhya verdict to mean 'all is well', that will be profusely myopic.

What such judgments (I refer to the emphatic conclusions on some matters highly subjective and faith-related such as Lord Rama's [ Images ] birthplace) can do is to gradually convert the large mass of borderline Muslim youth into instant hardliners.

The damage inflicted is usually imperceptible and, worse, incalculable.

We might end up paying a huge price in the long run.

9. For any minority community, the ultimate last resort of fair justice is the land's judicial system.

It is still early days to utter such spontaneous blandishments as 'judicial statesmanship'.

Is the split one-third verdict finally just a mathematical formula for an amicable solution?

Is it any surprise that both the Sunni Waqf Board and the Nirmohi Akhara are all pleading to the Supreme Court, each believing that they have been unduly done in, even if the Hindus seem to have stolen the initial advantage?

Expect hardening of positions, and a more acrimonious exchange.

10. There are a lot of seasoned analysts, social commentators and other intellectuals who seem to believe that with the Supreme Court likely to take years to resolve the complex intractable imbroglio, the Ayodhya issue will die a natural death or at least lose its popular mass-base.

I think it is a rather superficial presumption for three reasons: First, as we all discovered on September 30, the nation came to a virtual standstill on the subject even 18 years after its disturbing planned demolition.

Expect the same or higher intensity of followers as a whole new generation has now been re-educated on that history lesson in a frenzied world of several media platforms, besides television.

Second, the Supreme Court may not take that long to come to a final decision. In fact, it might take as early as a mere two years.

Third, economic emancipation, social amelioration and material success are not directly related to religious tolerance.

Terry Jones, the US pastor, is not the only religious fanatic in the United States, which corners 27 per cent of the world's economic output.

Bottomline: India does not possess the political leadership with the apposite moral fibre or the necessary willpower among its key battling constituents to create a national reconciliation.

Frankly, all that talk is total humbug, wishful thinking and vastly impractical (I would love to be surprised though).

The judicial process, irrespective of its risky assessments on matters as sensitive as religious faith, is therefore by pure fait accompli, our only logical recourse.

The Supreme Court it is then!
 
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What is the fuss ?

Whatever decision the High Court would have given , the other party would have gone to the higher court. This is a part of the legal process.

Why 10 reasons there can be 100 reasons why nations do not move on.The main reason why issues like these do not fade away is that people do not want it to fade away and are used for political issues by parties for the next elections.

Its very easy to pontificate from a distance. The fact on the ground is that an average Indian does not really bother for such issues any more.
 
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now more people talking about ayodhya outside then in india...

india is moving on....

thread intended to troll and spread hate..
 
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Muslims betrayed: Shahi Imam



Rejecting the Allahabad High Court verdict on the Ayodhya title suits, the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid on Friday said the community had been “betrayed” again, even as he appealed for peace.

Criticising the Congress, Syed Ahmed Bukhari said: “Now dialogue has become one of the refrains, but we have seen the attitude of Congress regime over the years. First, it was installation of idols in 1949, then it was shilanyas, followed by the opening of locks and then presiding the martyrdom of Babri Mosque. Now we have been betrayed again.”

Bukhari was addressing Muslims after Friday prayers.

He expressed doubts over the “consolation” route of appeal before the Supreme Court. “...my impression is that the Supreme Court will also pronounce similar judgment. Supreme Court is most likely to endorse this verdict.”

Bukhari said Muslims wanted justice but got settlement. “Muslims want justice. At least this is what we had hoped from the court. But it (the Court) pronounced a settlement. We are not ready to accept it. This is not a verdict of secular state.”

The Imam had some hard words for the judiciary, saying “it was a title suit and not a partition suit. “The court has pronounced partitioning of the title. Muslims did not wait for 60 years for this. They were expecting justice. Having lost faith in different regimes, 60 years down the line we can not even trust the courts,” Bukhari said.

“When the court did not find evidence of demolition of temple to build the mosque, how could it find evidence of ruins of the temple at that place? Then the courts invoked the principle of faith of one community. What about over 350 years of faith of Muslims at that site?” he said.


The Imam said the court did not accept the “reality of existence of a mosque for over 450 years but it accepted the existence of idols that came only in 1949”.


“If we do not get our rights, we will never be able to walk in this country with our heads held high. Forget about moving 50 years ahead, we will be set back by another 200 years,” Bukhari said.


He suggested that Muslims should meet in Delhi’s Ramlila grounds to formulate a strategy to deal with the situation arising out of the verdict.


Muslims betrayed: Shahi Imam
 
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Hmm.. someone is really researching to cause flame.

An article of 02 Oct is being C&P 27 Oct.
 
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The author of the opening article.

Sanjay Jha is an author, consultant, and co-runs a political blog, HamaraCongress.com.

No wonder !!!!!
 
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Morality and Indian politics and management are a miracle to happen together. Corruption is rife in typical Indian social mentality expressed by anyone occupying a seat of power be it government, business or private enterprise. Unless India cannot change its mindset of corruption rampant in its people, the road ahead will be very difficult.
 
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Morality and Indian politics and management are a miracle to happen together. Corruption is rife in typical Indian social mentality expressed by anyone occupying a seat of power be it government, business or private enterprise. Unless India cannot change its mindset of corruption rampant in its people, the road ahead will be very difficult.

Yup.. exactly.. we have just read the article on corruption yesterday.. Thanks for the inputs though.
 
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intrestingly a thread reffering to an article on sri sri ravi shanker opening an ashram on art of living at chin's capital city has been deleted on the same forum ...on other hand these type of troll and hate threads are encuraged..

no wonder what you like is what you get...
 
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Morality and Indian politics and management are a miracle to happen together. Corruption is rife in typical Indian social mentality expressed by anyone occupying a seat of power be it government, business or private enterprise. Unless India cannot change its mindset of corruption rampant in its people, the road ahead will be very difficult.

Yup.. exactly.. we have just read the article on corruption yesterday.. Thanks for the inputs though.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...global-corruption-index-ti-2.html#post1228622

And Indian rank is 78..Go figure.
 
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My personal views:

1. Three out of 10 Muslims in India live below the poverty line, and one-third earn below Rs 550 a month, thus we miss the woods for the trees if we are naive enough to delude ourselves that the India of 2010 is really very different from that of 1992.

Poverty has perpetuated itself, income disparities rule.

Ironically enough, on Thursday there were several news-scrolls talking about Mukesh Ambani's latest top billionaire ranking.

A booming Sensex and GDP growth of 9 per cent is meaningless in the absence of fair distribution; it does not detract from the germane, irrefutable fact, has the economic lot of the Muslims truly changed even as India accelerates heavily on the foot-pedal of world commerce?

And remember, religion becomes a comforting cocoon of the vulnerable and dispossessed.

Poverty is a big problem for India and India is fighting it. but things are not going to change overnight. poverty doesnt know religions everyone is equally affected by it. we dont need pakistani muslims worrying about Indian muslims. rather pakistani muslims should worry about pakistani muslims who are under poverty line and try to make their lives better.

While you were ranting about Mukesh Ambani, you forgot about Azim Premji. Double standards?:rolleyes:
 
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Morality and Indian politics and management are a miracle to happen together. Corruption is rife in typical Indian social mentality expressed by anyone occupying a seat of power be it government, business or private enterprise. Unless India cannot change its mindset of corruption rampant in its people, the road ahead will be very difficult.

talking about curruption you should see this thread dude

http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...an-ranks-34th-global-corruption-index-ti.html
 
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