10 captives, Over 20 soldiers, including Commanding Officer killed at Galwan border clash with China

[Zapper]

But the grave problem for India is that the Chinese now hold about 60 sq km of land where they didn't invade earlier--land which threatens Indian supplies like Pakistan threatened the supplies during the Kargil War in 1999.

First up, the Galwan valley has always been contested by both sides with frequent patrolling and cross-infiltration in the past. After the recent military level talks, both sides decided to move back which they did but IA noticed a PLA post in the disputed region which when confronted resulted in the aftermath with casualties on both sides

For instance, this news was up until an hour ago regarding the Pangong lake which is one among the two being contested, the other being Galwan

https://epistlenews.co.uk/featured/...n-controlled-by-china-since-1962-sources.html

Several chinese sources and media outlets did admit casualties but didn't wanna reveal their numbers so that we don't get into a d**k measuring contest like that on LoC

China has not released details of the deaths and injuries on its side, in an attempt to avoid any notion of winners or losers and prevent any escalation of tensions, but with casualties on both sides and tensions having been simmering for a while before boiling over, the incident cannot but raise worries that the situation risks running out of control - CHINA DAILY

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202006/17/WS5eea05bca310834817253bc7.html

Why did the Indian planners not think that their overt attempts to grab the Pakistani held Kashmir, showing displeasure with CPEC, and being part of the Quadrilateral group (with Australia, USA, and Japan) to counter China was not going to have consequences?!!! If the Indian calculations are based off American support then that may or may not happen--as it is, the Americans are basically dumping India in Afghanistan

While Amit Shah did mention in the Parliament that we'd take back AJK & GB, that's for a later note and there's no immediate plan afaik. Ladakh standoff arised since chinese were concerned of IA beefing up our infrastructure which would enable us to gain a stronghold in future disputes. The bridge at Galwan valley was something they were hell bent on obstructing

Secondly, we never banked on the US. We've seen how US ditched some of it's closest partners & allies, how pak was refused of additional F-16s or AH-1Z's and how Turkey was kicked outta F-35 program for selecting S-400

The Force Magazine You Tuber Pravin S. keeps telling Indian planners that, while China is not open to making concessions for peace, Pakistan is and India should talk with Pakistan. Poor guy is at pains to repeat these in several of his videos--and so would be the Indian leadership under Congress; remember that there was almost some agreement between Musharraf and Manmohan Singh for peace in mid 2000s

If we take the words of Pravin S. or Ajai Shukla who's tweets most pdf pakistanis quote since it suits their narrative, we would've sold out Kashmir to pak, Ladakh & NE to china already

 

[Aaloo Tikki]

i just realized what pakistan has been through in all these decades, their enemies are incredibly hostile and real life trolls. incredible how you guys managed to survive their amount of real life trolling -they are even beating a tv with sticks rofl

What a shi.thole

This is their way to express anger, what's wrong in that?

 

[Dalit]

Why is everyone being so impatient? The surgical strike didn't happen the very next day of URI attacks. Similarly, Balakot thrashing happened after 12 days of the Pulwama episode. The thing with Modi is that he wants to rule India till he's alive. And for ensuring that, he can go to any extent. He'll be politically finished if India doesn't give back to China in the same coin. Winning the next elections is his greatest drive in life. So, just wait!

We are waiting newbie amateur.

 

[Passionaire]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273282883042476034

 

[Dalit]

i just realized what pakistan has been through in all these decades, their enemies are incredibly hostile and real life trolls. incredible how you guys managed to survive their amount of real life trolling -they are even beating a tv with sticks rofl

What a shi.thole

They beg on our forum on a daily basis. We know the Indian DNA inside out.

 

[Aaloo Tikki]

Im sure you are. calm, collected, sad and crying.

Yes at least not abusing anyone.

 

[Aaloo Tikki]

Breaking news
Chinese casualties 30 iron rods severely damaged , 13 barbed wire cover stones missing in action

I thought biggest casulaty was 43 Kg of missing Chowmein.

 

[rambro]

I thought biggest casulaty was 43 Kg of missing Chowmein.

i hear it was a battalion of cow dung biscuit

 

[Microsoft]

Okay so I went through some of the pages in this thread. And here are my observations:

1. It's scientifically proved on PDF that Chinese soldiers are immortal, they can never die. Especially during a border stand off with India.

2. All Indian media is truthful on odd days. On even days, they are non reliable.

3. Only CCP can tell the truth in today's world. CCP controlled state media can only utter gospels. Other sources (especially US media quoting US intelligence) are non reliable (they will become reliable as soon as they talk about Indian causalities though).

4. It is unanimously agreed that this skirmish between India and China is clearly a Pakistan's victory hands down.

There you go.

Waiting on India's response is all. New supa powa 2020 India will make China pay right?

 

[Areesh]

Why is everyone being so impatient? The surgical strike didn't happen the very next day of URI attacks. Similarly, Balakot thrashing happened after 12 days of the Pulwama episode. The thing with Modi is that he wants to rule India till he's alive. And for ensuring that, he can go to any extent. He'll be politically finished if India doesn't give back to China in the same coin. Winning the next elections is his greatest drive in life. So, just wait!

What thrashing?

 

[Aaloo Tikki]

i hear it was a battalion of cow dung biscuit

Ohh poor Chinese. Never thought they love Cow dung biscuit so much.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Balakot thrashing

You mean this Thrashing ?

 

[Liquidmetal]

Its 100% a face saving. Remember the F16. This pretty much proves that Indian deterrence has failed. They have failed to keep China at bay, lost 60km of their territory to China and have also failed to deter Pakistan.

Please people Ladakh, J&K is not Indian territory, so please stop saying their (Indian) territory, it is important to get the facts right.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Why is everyone being so impatient? The surgical strike didn't happen the very next day of URI attacks. Similarly, Balakot thrashing happened after 12 days of the Pulwama episode. The thing with Modi is that he wants to rule India till he's alive. And for ensuring that, he can go to any extent. He'll be politically finished if India doesn't give back to China in the same coin. Winning the next elections is his greatest drive in life. So, just wait!

I too want modi to rule india till he dies.

 

[rambro]

Waiting on India's response is all. New supa powa 2020 India will make China pay right?

They are waiting for rafael and tejas in numbers and for them to be combat ready.
You will be dismayed to know that will take forever.