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10 captives, Over 20 soldiers, including Commanding Officer killed at Galwan border clash with China

The strategic implication would be the beating which macho image of India has taken. The image was painstakingly created in the previous two decades and resulted in India becoming a part of the quad group against China. If India can't defend its territory, what would be its use in South China Sea and IOR against China.
 
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India says officer, two soldiers killed in 'violent faceoff' on border with China

Reuters | AFPUpdated June 16, 2020
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In this November 2019 file photo, a man walks inside a conference room used for meetings between military commanders of China and India, at the Indian side of the Indo-China border at Bumla, in the northeastern Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh. — Reuters
The Indian army said on Tuesday that one of its officers and two soldiers were killed in a “violent faceoff” on the contested border with China, the first such incident in decades between the nuclear-armed neighbours.

India and China have been locked in a standoff in the western Himalayas for weeks, though there had been no casualties on either side.





The latest incident took place in the Galwan Valley in the mountainous region of Ladakh, the Indian army said in a statement. It said there were "casualties on both sides" in the incident which took place on Monday, although Beijing made no mention of any — while laying the blame squarely on Delhi.

Senior military officials from both sides were meeting to defuse the situation, it said.

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An Indian army officer in the region told AFP that there had been no shooting in the incident. "It was violent hand-to-hand scuffles," the officer said on condition of anonymity.

'Attacking Chinese personel'
Beijing on Tuesday confirmed a clash took place, but made no mention of casualties. It accused Indian soldiers of crossing into Chinese territory and "attacking Chinese personnel".

Foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said Indian troops "crossed the border line twice ... provoking and attacking Chinese personnel, resulting in serious physical confrontation between border forces on the two sides".

"We again solemnly request that India follows the relevant attitude and restrains its frontline troops," he said.

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The Asian giants have rival claims to vast swathes of territory along their 3,500 kilometers Himalayan border, but the disputes have remained largely peaceful since a border war in 1962.

India’s main stock indexes, gave up earlier gains after the news, and were last up about 0.4 per cent each at 07:40 GMT, while the rupee weakened to 76.04 to the dollar.

Tensions along the China-India border high in the Himalayas have flared again in recent weeks, leading defence experts in New Delhi to fear that the jostling could turn into an unintended full-blown military action.

Indian officials say the latest row began in early May, when Chinese soldiers entered the disputed territory of Ladakh at three different points, erecting tents and guard posts. They said the Chinese soldiers ignored repeated verbal warnings to depart, triggering shouting matches, stone-throwing and fistfights. China has sought to downplay the confrontation while providing little information.

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Observers, however, say that the face-off was triggered by India’s construction of roads and air strips in the region.
 
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, fierce physcial clashes between both side?

so no shot fired , ...............................resulting in casualties
 
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In 1984, it is a hill top where you get first, its not like you won it in a fight.

Don't know that where is fighting between India and china then.... I guess hills only..

1971 was won by Bangali people, Bangladesh is a separate country its not part of India.
We never wanted to add Bangadesh with India... we just helped successfully by Military...

In 1999, we got to the hill first and you had to run to US to beg us to get back, but still we have some hills which were on your area.

Thanks for knowing me that Nawaaz Sharif was indian PM...who flew to US for beg.....
Again pls don't go to off topic... Thank you

It was you who brought old wars of India-Pak now shying away after seeing mirror.

Don't know that where is fighting between India and china then.... I guess hills only..

YOu are comparing ground with a galacier. Siachien is a glacier where you cant live even for few hours without suits. India got the suits first and reached the glacier. No bravado.

Whereas Ladakh is open land no comparision between siachin and laddakh.



Regarding Bangladesh, it doesnt matter what you want, its the internal rebellion of people of Bangladesh. So stabbing in the back that you could do. We had similar opportunity in 1962 but Ayub didnt do that infact Pakistan offerred India to help defend against China.

In 1999, it was you who first ran to US not Pakistan. Instead of fighting militarily you start crying in front of uncle SAM. By the way we still have peaks that were on your side of LOC before Kargil, so no matter what, we won.
 
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Only a fool would pay any attention to joe and other poster Nil something.

They are master of deflection and playing down the intensity. Their superior english skills separate them from ordinary indian trolls.

I have never put much stock into his analysis but it is really remarkable how certain PDF members look upto him.

What he doesnt realize is good English is useless when it comes to discussing matters of Peace & Conflict or the use of force.

Chinese, for exampe, are world class and light-years ahead of India irrespective of their English skills.
 
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lol Kashmirwalla.com :omghaha:

WTH is going on? Whatever the case something big did go down today
Unsure about the exact details but there was a major scuffle between Indian & PLA troops in the Galwan valley involving 200-300 men with both sides suffering 3-5 casualties and several injured

has china admitted to any losses on their side

Global Times editor in chief did confirm PLA suffered casualties but didn't specify a number

 
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