10 captives, Over 20 soldiers, including Commanding Officer killed at Galwan border clash with China

[PakSword]

Indian source says 20 Indian dead... every one believes it.
Indian source say 43 Chinese dead too... no one believes it.

Summary of the thread...

At least 20. Exact number hasn't been revealed yet. And yes, we need to wait for the other party to disclose its numbers.

Sorry i would trust PM any day over an anonymous source.

And what about the number "43"?

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

1. We consider Ladakh an integral part of the disputed territory of Jammu & Kashmir.

2. Anything that happens in Ladakh (part of Jammu & Kashmir) is Pakistan's direct business.

3. Galwan Valley and eastern Ladakh area holds special significance to Pakistan because it is the gateway to Siachen and Gilgit Baltistan.

4. Jammu & Kashmir (including Ladakh) is Pakistan's backyard.

5. Ladakh shares a border with Pakistan.

So, in summation, whatever happens in Ladakh is Pakistan's business.

Sorry but I was talking about China and India current situation.... we can talk about India-pak on separate thread..

 

[serenity]

I think Chinese action basically push this funny little modi on the edge of a cliff

His tough nationalist image will get destroyed right now if he is back down, and will get destroyed into pieces if he isn't, but that's a later matter.

The Chinese official statement to this encounter leave him no room, in order to keep his tough guy imagine, he has to man up and get fucked by China in a shooting war, he could not just escape the war like in 2017.

Just in 2017 I told you guys Xi Jinping is a real tough guy according to his classmate, so I think this whole standoff is a setup for Modi, he has to fight and lose badly as expected, against China, China leave no room for him to back down, he is at cliff now already.

But this time he is next to cliff and army who will rip him into atoms so he is not jumping off or engaging. Instead he is doing cowards way, begging to give Trump fellatio. But Trump has told him **** off you want me to fight China for what?? ahahahahaha idiots fooling themselves of their own lies and believing. I think Modi will soon demand the heads of his generals for his miscalculation. This evil scum has been responsible for the hurt of thousands already and doesn't have the balls to shoot himself like Hitler did.

 

[Psychic]

Pakistanis since yesterday on this thread

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Indians right now:

Pakistanis and Chinese right now:

 

[serenity]

[QUOTE =“ serenity，post：12443848，member：2062”]是的，这实际上是真正的危险。没有45公斤的强奸犯威胁大讨论。[/ QUOTE]
But this time the number of new equipment in the Tibet Military Region surprised me I always thought that ZBD04A could not be deployed on the plateau

Lots of videos shot by drivers around that area of PLA trucks in hundreds delivering 155mm and hundreds of armor vehicles already. To give Modi's slaves and nazi rapists new holes.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

new hindi video

Mubarik ho ... App ko bhi samjh agaya ho ga ab ke hindi main bhi video agaye hai.

 

[In arduis fidelis]

Anyways latest sateliite pics taken today show No Chinese buildup on Indian side of LAC in Galwan:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273177271218720768

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273177273810780160

Sad news for @Musings @Signalian @Areesh @Beast @52051 @rott

Thanks for this conclusive proof that it was all IA's fault as the Chinese statement had stated.
Chinese were well within their side when IA tried to pull a fast one on them but instead got their a** handed to them.
Maybe thats why no support for Indian version from any quarter cuz they know its their own doing.
Reap as u sow

 

[ARMalik]

Is this recent?

Yes but the Chinese friends are deliberately not saying anything more, and the indians absolutely do not want to have any further casualties reported. Death of 20 soldiers is acceptable to the indians.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Wednesday, Jun 17th 2020 12PM 21°C 3PM 20°C 5-Day Forecast

Medieval fight to the death at the top of the world: Soldiers were impaled with iron rods, thrown off cliffs and left to freeze to death in border brawl between nuclear-armed India and China that killed up to 70 troops

Indians are demanding revenge on China after soldiers of the nuclear-armed nations brawled with nail-studded clubs leaving up to 70 dead at the disputed Himalayan border.

India's government was silent today on the fallout from clashes with China's People's Liberation Army that the Indian army said claimed 20 soldiers' lives on Monday night.

Despite India initially reporting just three deaths, its army yesterday revealed the horrific scale of the violence which left 20 Indians dead, including a colonel.

It had been Colonel B. Santosh Babu, Commanding Officer of the 16 Bihar regiment, who had made the first approach to the Chinese, hoping for discussion.

But the Indian delegation was attacked, India Today reported, with the Chinese hurling rocks wrapped in barbed wire and whacking their counterparts with nail-studded wooden logs.

Indian Colonel Santosh Babu killed in the fighting.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...soldiers-fought-death-nail-studded-clubs.html

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273107148180946944

 

[Signalian]

I don't know who is lying:

People’s Liberation Army assault teams armed with iron rods as well as batons wrapped in barbed wire hunted down and slaughtered troops of the 16 Bihar Regiment, a senior government official familiar with the debriefing of survivors at hospitals in Leh has told News18.

“Even unarmed men who fled into the hillsides were hunted down and killed,” one officer said. “The dead include men who jumped into the Galwan river in a desperate effort to escape.”

In Krav maga, there is a class just dedicated towards improvising objects around you and using them as a weapon. Use of objects inside a room and use of objects out in the open.

To describe this to a lay man who is also a couch potato, there was an English serial of 1980's, The A Team, and a movie was made on it too. The 4 ex-military renegades were always devising weapons and obstructions from stuff available to them. That's what Military teaches.

There are many many real life examples out there, even non military ones.
Do you know the kabbadi match of sub continent? its team work, if the player from opposite team comes and grabs one of your team mate, you all join hands and grab him and dont let him escape.

IA was not prepared for such a clash and neither anticipated such a response from PLA troops. Soldiers make-do, they grab anything as a weapon and use it against the enemy. Instead of fleeing into hillsides, IA should have regrouped and fought back. I was of the view that IA training standards were almost same as PA's, but i stand wrong. The psychology of IA troops changes when they are confronting PA troops, knowing that IA troops will always have more numbers to back them up. PA troops know they will always be out numbered so they are trained to take on heavier formations of enemy. IA met PLA a year or so back and had almost same clash without using fists or kicks, so they should have studied PLA troops psychology and how PLA will react in defending what they own as theirs. All the Sun Tzu principles are failing inside Indian camp. Its the job of a soldier to hunt down and kill the enemy soldier, why else would a soldier be sent to the border. Some statements from indian reports are classic examples of childish excuses like "dog ate my homework".

The way reports are mentioning that IA troops jumped into river reminds me how muslim virgins and muslim wives jumped into wells to save themselves from hindus and sikhs in 1947 during partition. Those were women, they had no chance against men but here trained troops are jumping into river and fleeing into hillsides. Its a pathetic show and poor performance of training methodology.

 

[serenity]

I hope it is true that Xi wants Modi dead and hope Xi truly is this dark guy who will not forget or forgive. I hope it is truly trap done to modi either he kills himself, his people kill him, or he fights and then he kills himself or his people kill him. So Modi is testing Indian propaganda but luckily many sane and intelligent Indians not believing Modi's propaganda. They know Xi has locked Modi up in this dilemma and will demand his life for it.

You see Xi is planner and man of action not talk like the Donald pussy grabber who some Indians worship.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

List of dead Indian soldiers. RIP. Om Shanti.

It appears that the Chinese did NOT use Kung Fu but just brutal force with clubs studded with nails. A very primitive but clearly effective weapon going back to stone age.

Looks like Albert Einstein was wrong...

Albert Einstein said, "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." This shows that he believed the weapons used in World War III would be so devastating that civilization as we know it would be gone.

 

[Imran Khan]

 

[rott]

Yes but the Chinese friends are deliberately not saying anything more, and the indians absolutely do not want to have any further casualties reported. Death of 20 soldiers is acceptable to the indians.

Nothing substantial has come out from the Chinese.