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$1-bn IAF deal for Swiss basic trainers grounded | idrw.org

The $1 billion deal to purchase new basic trainers for the Indian Air Force (IAF) has been put on hold after serious allegations have surfaced about discrepancies in the procurement process. The defence ministry is taking a re-look at the selection process following a request from South Korea to investigate concerns about the validity of commercial documents submitted by a Swiss firm that was declared as the lowest bidder.

The procurement process has now been slowed down as the ministry as well as the IAF is scrutinising the selection process. As reported by The Indian Express, Swiss firm Pilatus had emerged as the cheapest when commercial bids were opened in May this year, making it the automatic winner of the competition to provide 75 basic trainers to the IAF.

However, sources said that serious allegations have now cropped up that have necessitated a re-look, including a charge that incomplete commercial bids were submitted by the Swiss firm and certain charges like transfer of technology costs were not factored in. “We are looking into the matter and if there are any discrepancies, action will be taken as per the Defence Procurement Procedure,” an official said.

It is learnt that an official request for a look into certain charges regarding the selection was received by the defence ministry from South Korea. As reported, Korean Aerospace Industries (KAI) came out second in the pricing bid while US firm Hawker-Beechcraft was the most expensive. This is also the first major Indian military aviation deal that Korea is taking part in.

While a thorough scrutiny is being conducted, there is a sense of urgency to purchase the new basic trainers given that the current fleet of HPT 32 basic trainers has been grounded since 2009 due to safety reasons.

Cadets are currently being trained on the ‘harsher’ Kiran aircraft, that are more famous for their aerobatics as part of the Surya Kiran team. The grounding of the HPT 32’s meant cadets were directly being trained on Kiran — actually meant for second level training — instead of being gently initiated into flying on slower and safer propeller driven aircraft.

However, there is some reason to cheer as the grounded HPT 32 fleet may come back to service in the next few months, thanks to a new safety feature.

The fleet is likely to get reactivated with a new Ballistic Recovery System (BRS). With this system, which was been approved by HAL and is set to be retrofitted to the entire grounded fleet, the entire HPT 32 aircraft will descend with the help of a large parachute in case of engine failure.
 
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i mean 75 fighters for 1 billion..isnt that very expensive..we got 50 jf-17 for 1 billion???

i guess you have to pay heavy for foreign aircrafts..we have produce mushak at very cheap price and have got several export orders..it has digital pit and is very good trainer..
 
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i mean 75 fighters for 1 billion..isnt that very expensive..we got 50 jf-17 for 1 billion???

What a joke.....:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I cant believe it though it may be true.

Even for 10.4 billion you can get 520 MRCA(Its JF-17).whole new fighters promising technology. Good going man...:tup:
 
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Our procurement processes are becoming a joke now a days. I am happy that this didn't happen with the MMRCA if so we would have been really screwed.
 
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Now they need ToT for basic trainer also ???? Seriously after building a few trainers and fighter jet like LCA, i thought they could at-least build a trainer....
 
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i mean 75 fighters for 1 billion..isnt that very expensive..we got 50 jf-17 for 1 billion???

i guess you have to pay heavy for foreign aircrafts..we have produce mushak at very cheap price and have got several export orders..it has digital pit and is very good trainer..

No dear the total deal is around 75+106 plane 75 come direct from vendor and 106 built by HAL it also include ToT, training and other ......
 
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i think Korean concern is right
Kai ka-1 is better than pc-21
here is Kai ka-1
KAI_KA-1_at_Osan_air_base_2010.jpg
 
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I reckon this is a minor hiccup and this will soon be sorted out as IAF are desperate for these and the recent defence procurements have been rather efficient and transparent. S.KOREAN firm are just "trying their luck" as they were eliminated.


i mean 75 fighters for 1 billion..isnt that very expensive..we got 50 jf-17 for 1 billion???

i guess you have to pay heavy for foreign aircrafts..we have produce mushak at very cheap price and have got several export orders..it has digital pit and is very good trainer..

And the reason it isn't expensive is because these are TRAINERS NOT FIGHTERS! and propellor driven at that. So there is less computers, no radars and sensors. For eg the SU-30MKI is $72-100 MILLION each.
 
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WHY COULDN'T WE CONSIDER NAL HANSA?

hansa_static.jpg


Crew: two, pilot and instructor
Length: 7.66 m (25 ft 1½ in)
Wingspan: 10.47 m (34 ft 4¼ in)
Height: 2.61 m (8 ft 7 in)
Wing area: 12.47 m² (134.2 ft²)
Aspect ratio: 8.8:1
Empty weight: 545[5] kg (1,202 lb)
Gross weight: 750 kg (1,653 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Rotax 914 F3, 85 kW (113 hp) each
Performance
Cruising speed: 213 km/h (132 mph)
Range: 842 km (523 miles)
Endurance: 44 hours
Rate of climb: 3.3 m/s (650 ft/min)
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i mean 75 fighters for 1 billion..isnt that very expensive..we got 50 jf-17 for 1 billion???

i guess you have to pay heavy for foreign aircrafts..we have produce mushak at very cheap price and have got several export orders..it has digital pit and is very good trainer..
I didnt say any thing . No offense .
 
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India urgently need trainers and thats a truth show a middle finger to korea who earns lots of billions from India Hyundai, LG, Samsung etc. etc. but runs a coffee club to oppose India for UNSC or NSG.
 
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WHY COULDN'T WE CONSIDER NAL HANSA?

hansa_static.jpg


Crew: two, pilot and instructor
Length: 7.66 m (25 ft 1½ in)
Wingspan: 10.47 m (34 ft 4¼ in)
Height: 2.61 m (8 ft 7 in)
Wing area: 12.47 m² (134.2 ft²)
Aspect ratio: 8.8:1
Empty weight: 545[5] kg (1,202 lb)
Gross weight: 750 kg (1,653 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Rotax 914 F3, 85 kW (113 hp) each
Performance
Cruising speed: 213 km/h (132 mph)
Range: 842 km (523 miles)
Endurance: 44 hours
Rate of climb: 3.3 m/s (650 ft/min)
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Because MOD won't get its fat commission from local sellers. Isn't it obvious?
 
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WOW the IAF desperately needs basic trainers the Deepak has been grounded and not in use since 2009 in air to air combat the quality of pilot training is a major factor and can help in the meantime IAF should seriously consider leasing or buying NAL Hansa aircraft the last thing we need is another "flying coffin" stage in the IAF again
 
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