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Mig-29 is more expensive to maintain than Su-27/30, F-16, Gripen etc. It is also more fuel hungry, with less combat range, payload and hardpoints. IT is a tactical fighter. Besides, the production for the older variant (Mig-29A/S/SE/SD) has been seized with Myanmar being the last customer. Also, Mig-29 did not evolve much like Su-27 and has a potential for extinction. You might not get enough after sales support as well. It did not also mature into another aircraft (not counting Mig-35 as id did not find a production customer). The Mikoyan is also struggling to survive and is shown in their desperate sales moves.

Wrong. The MiG-29 is cheaper to maintain than the Su-30. Otherwise, come up with some proof.

Back in the old days, MiG-29 was positioned to operate within the Soviet airspace. The Su-27 on the other hand was designed to penetrate deep into enemy airspace.

And yes, MiG-29 still has potential. The Russian Navy are opting for MiG-29K's which would likely have AESA radars.

These indications are enough and are suggesting you to change to platforms like Sukhoi/Boeing/Lockheed Martin/SAAB etc..

Boeing? Lockheed? SAAB? How can you be certain that they'll even offer Bangladesh those? Who is going to pay for them? Who is going to pay for all the infrastructure and training? How is Bangladesh going to acquire the AMRAAM and security protocols that'd surround such a procurement?

The USA is sensitive about technology being transferred to regional rivals or competitors. That is why they are not easily offering Malaysia the AMRAAM on their Hornets.

By the way, are you that Major Shaheb/MiG-35 by any chance?
 
Wrong. The MiG-29 is cheaper to maintain than the Su-30. Otherwise, come up with some proof.

Back in the old days, MiG-29 was positioned to operate within the Soviet airspace. The Su-27 on the other hand was designed to penetrate deep into enemy airspace.

And yes, MiG-29 still has potential. The Russian Navy are opting for MiG-29K's which would likely have AESA radars.



Boeing? Lockheed? SAAB? How can you be certain that they'll even offer Bangladesh those? Who is going to pay for them? Who is going to pay for all the infrastructure and training? How is Bangladesh going to acquire the AMRAAM and security protocols that'd surround such a procurement?

The USA is sensitive about technology being transferred to regional rivals or competitors. That is why they are not easily offering Malaysia the AMRAAM on their Hornets.

By the way, are you that Major Shaheb/MiG-35 by any chance?

First of all, Mig-29K is a very different variant just like Su-33.

Secondly, One of the Prime targets of US now is to get in dominating power in the Indian Ocean. India now having a Aircraft Carrier full of Migs and the second under construction is a big threat to US in Indian Ocean. They need to closely observe India and China. Thats why they needed a base in Chittagong. If BD GOVT. can take advantage of this situation then the US would likely to sell those F-16/FA-18 to BD.

Besides, India is now the worlds biggest weapons purchaser and they did already rejected A-10, F-16 and FA-18. US does not want to loose any more deals. They failed in fair play, they might try for pressure play as well.

Gripen is already under evaluation along with Mig-29, F-16 and Su-30 for procurement as expressed by Air Chief in Defence IQ.

And no, I am not Major Sahab/Mig-35...:disagree:
 
Secondly, One of the Prime targets of US now is to get in dominating power in the Indian Ocean. India now having a Aircraft Carrier full of Migs and the second under construction is a big threat to US in Indian Ocean. They need to closely observe India and China. Thats why they needed a base in Chittagong. If BD GOVT. can take advantage of this situation then the US would likely to sell those F-16/FA-18 to BD.

sounds like prostitution :lol:
 
First of all, Mig-29K is a very different variant just like Su-33.

Indeed it is.

In fact, Russia stopped producing the classic MiG-29 variants a long time ago. So now we have MiG-29M1/M2/K and perhaps someday the MiG-35.
Russia Discontinues Classical MiG-29 Production

Myanmar was the last country to order the classic variant.

It still doesn't answer the question as to how the MiG-29 has no potential. And you still haven't answered as to how the MiG-29 is more expensive to maintain than the Su-30 :rolleyes:

Secondly, One of the Prime targets of US now is to get in dominating power in the Indian Ocean. India now having a Aircraft Carrier full of Migs and the second under construction is a big threat to US in Indian Ocean. They need to closely observe India and China. Thats why they needed a base in Chittagong. If BD GOVT. can take advantage of this situation then the US would likely to sell those F-16/FA-18 to BD.

Never going to happen. They might plan for some SIGNET operations in the guise of commercial activities such as oil exploration. But certainly no naval base. The Americans aren't that stupid to attract that much attention.

India's aircraft carriers are no threat to the USN.

And if you are assuming that Bangladesh at present can come to the same level as Japan and South Korea, then you are mistaken.

Besides, India is now the worlds biggest weapons purchaser and they did already rejected A-10, F-16 and FA-18. US does not want to loose any more deals. They failed in fair play, they might try for pressure play as well.

The USA never offered the A-10 to anybody.

Only the F-16 E/F and F-18 SH were offered during India's MMRCA tender.

Gripen is already under evaluation along with Mig-29, F-16 and Su-30 for procurement as expressed by Air Chief in Defence IQ.

Okay, any updates on those?

Realistically speaking, Bangladesh can opt for the MiG-29 under the current circumstances. That is, unless the politics changes.

And no, I am not Major Sahab/Mig-35...:disagree:

Hmm....:rolleyes:
 
I am sure if BD will ask for License Production of F-22s in BD than US will say YES.

This way BD can also Export, Made in BD F-22s to some countries.

How about we ask you for license production of HAL Baal Tejas in BD. Now since you pathetic lot loiter here in this section all day long and I take this as a symbol of love for us I guess you guys would gladly share the technology of your HAL Baal jet with us. Oops sorry just remembered its not totally your technology, you guys have long been sucking american and israeli feet for engines and radars. And about F-22's I say once we have deadly Baal tejas they wont be needed.
 
Yak-130 Jet Trainers For Bangladesh

The Bangladesh Air Force is set to get 24 Russian-built Yakovlev Yak-130 Mitten military jet trainers, it's been announced.
Reporting the potential Yak-130 export sale, news agency RIA Novosti said it followed the aircraft's participation in the recent Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace (LIMA) event, held last month in Malaysia.
Earlier this year, Russia gave Bangladesh the funds to obtain $1bn worth of new arms. Now, discussions between the two countries are said to be well advanced and a Yak-130 deal could be signed as soon as next month.
"The purchase of Yak-130 warplanes is a very significant subject of negotiations between Russia and Bangladesh", explained Viktor Komardin from the Russian arms export group Rosoboronexport.
Bangladeshi Yak-130s
Also set to be acquired with the funds left over from the Bangladeshi Yak-130 purchase are Mil Mi-17 utility helicopters, air defence systems, armoured vehicles and other weapons, officials have intimated.
First established in 1971, the Bangladesh Air Force operates several nations' hardware. Russian MiG-29s serve in the air superiority role, while Chinese F-7s and A-5s are tasked with multirole combat and close air support, respectively.
Bangladesh Air Force jet training is currently supplied by the elderly Cessna T-37, while initial pilot training flights involve the Nanchang CJ-6, also an aging design. The arrival of the Yak-130 will therefore thoroughly update Bangladesh's pilot training programmes.
Yak-130 Jet Trainer
The Yak-130 jet trainer first flew in 1996, finally entering Russian Air Force service 13 years later. A highly-advanced training platform and light attack aircraft, the Yak-130 reproduces the flying qualities of much larger combat aircraft and boasts a digital Fly-By-Wire System, a glass cockpit and various other technologies. A total of nine weapons stations can be loaded with a variety of ordnance up to 3,000 kilograms in weight and these are located on the aircraft's fuselage, wings and wingtips.
The Yak-130 has a maximum speed of 644 miles per hour, a range of 1,582 miles and a maximum operational ceiling of 42,600 feet. The aircraft current equips both the Russian and Algerian air forces, while Vietnam, Syria and Libya all have it on order.

Yak-130 Jet Trainers For Bangladesh: Armed Forces International News
 
Dhaka and Moscow yesterday signed a $1 billion deal under which Bangladesh would procure military equipment and arms from Russia.

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina and Russian President Vladimir Putin witnessed the signing ceremony held at the Kremlin in Moscow.

This is the second trip by a Bangladesh prime minister to the Russian Federation. In March 1972, Hasina's father Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman visited the country, then Soviet Union, at the invitation of Brezhnev.

"Our countries intend to expand military and technological cooperation," news agencies quoted Putin as telling Sheikh Hasina during the Kremlin ceremony.

"Russia will extend Bangladesh a credit of $1 billion, which will be spent on the purchase on Russian weapons and military technology," said the leader of the world's second-largest weapons exporter.

The arms purchase agreement includes orders for armoured vehicles and infantry weapons, air defence systems and Mi-17 transport helicopters, a source close to Russia's state arms export agency told the Vedomosti business daily.

The source said the purchase did not include any tank orders because Bangladesh had earlier obtained those from China.

Bangladesh has recently been expanding its defence capabilities, building a new air base close to neighbouring Myanmar and adding frigates to its navy, AFP reports.

The two countries also signed two other agreements and six memoranda of understanding (MoU) on cooperation in different fields like agriculture, public health, medical science, education, counterterrorism, culture, law, justice and parliamentary affairs.

A part of the agreements saw Russia assign $500 million to finance the construction of Bangladesh's first nuclear power plant to be built at Rooppur.

"The 2,000-MW nuclear power plant in Bangladesh, with Russian technical and financial support, is a shinning example of our deeper engagement," Hasina said at a joint press briefing.

Referring to the agreements and MoU, she said, "I believe, they would place our relationship on a firm footing and help in taking practical initiatives in the future."

The preparatory work on the nuclear power plant would now allow us to make arrangements for the establishments of the plant, Hasina said.

The friendship between Bangladesh and Russia would reach to a new height, the PM said, adding, "A new door of prospect has opened by this visit."

Sheikh Hasina, who left for Russia on Monday, said she talked to President Putin in an atmosphere of great warmth.

“Our discussion was between two friends. I assured him of Bangladesh's friendship and cooperation in mutually beneficial areas. We realise that the result-oriented economic cooperation should be on the basis of our engagement with Russia in the WTO.

“We requested for duty-free quota-free access for Bangladeshi exports to the Russian Federation and in the Customs Union. It would open up doors for our private sector to explore new potentials for collaboration,” she added.

Hasina recalled the help and assistance provided by the then Soviet Union during and after the Liberation War.

In recognition, last year Dhaka bestowed Bangladesh Liberation War honour and Friends of Liberation War honour to many of those who were involved, she noted.

The PM, who is on a three-day trip, said she invited the Russian president to visit Bangladesh and he accepted it.

Addressing the press, Russian President Putin said they had constructive talks and hoped that the bilateral relations of the two countries would reach a new height.

The economic relations between the two countries, he said, had grown 23 percent and now it stood at more than $700 million. "We are placing emphasis to reach one billion dollars."

The Russian president mentioned his country is interested to increase cooperation in other energy sectors. In this connection, he mentioned of gas sector, reports BSS.

During a previous meeting in November 2010 in St Petersburg, Hasina and Putin agreed to take additional steps to bring the bilateral relations to a new level, according to a statement posted on the official website of Kremlin.

“Our countries are implementing various major joint projects, including in the energy sector,” Putin said, adding that Russian state nuclear corporation was getting ready to build the Rooppur nuclear power station, the first NPP in Bangladesh.

“In fact, Russia will not only supply the latest technology, which is natural, just as we do in our own country and in other countries, but we will also provide financial support at the initial stage of construction.

“It will be a loan for $500 million, and you have just witnessed the signing of the relevant agreement,” added the president.

Talking on cooperation in other energy sectors, he noted, 20 percent of all electricity generation capacity in Bangladesh was built with the assistance of Russian experts.

Putin said his country is expanding ties in the oil and gas sector.

Russian energy giant Gazprom has signed a contract with the Petrobangla for drilling ten gas wells, he mentioned. “This project will increase gas production in Bangladesh to 56 million cubic metres of gas per day.”

Space is another promising area of cooperation, he told journalists, adding that during the talks they discussed the possibility of providing assistance to Bangladesh in launching telecommunications satellites.

The two countries are united in their efforts on tiger conservation, he said. “Let me remind you that Madam Prime Minister took an active part in the preparation and holding of the St Petersburg International Forum on Tiger Conservation in 2010.”

The two leaders have agreed to hold the Days of Culture of Russia and Bangladesh in 2014-2015.

$1b defence deal sealed
 
The $1Bl deal does not include any fighter aircraft. However, it has been confirmed that Bangladesh is interested in Mig-29M which was opted out of this $1Bl deal on purpose. The 40 upgraded Mig-29M with heavy customization and configuration as requested by Bangladesh are going to be priced $1.8 to $2 Bl by Russia. The aircraft is believed to have an AESA radar, extended range, black smoke free engine, 9 hardpoints with 6000kg of load and fly-by-wire. Bangladesh Govt. to sign the contract on 2015 and expect delivery from 2019.
 
All that for just $1 billion ??

Are they second-hand?
 
The $1Bl deal does not include any fighter aircraft. However, it has been confirmed that Bangladesh is interested in Mig-29M which was opted out of this $1Bl deal on purpose. The 40 upgraded Mig-29M with heavy customization and configuration as requested by Bangladesh are going to be priced $1.8 to $2 Bl by Russia. The aircraft is believed to have an AESA radar, extended range, black smoke free engine, 9 hardpoints with 6000kg of load and fly-by-wire. Bangladesh Govt. to sign the contract on 2015 and expect delivery from 2019.

You are right about us not getting any figther jets using the $1 billion loan since most of it will be used for the yak 130s.

Have we already get to receive Mig-29Ms??2 billion does not sound realistic for 40 Mig 29Ms especially if the have AESA radars.
What about the Upgrades for our current Migs into SMT?
 

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