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$1 billion USD Thailand Navy to buy 3x S26T AIP subs from China, deal close to done

Lol, our sub maybe 30year old, but our next sub that being build in korea are not, btw our old sub has been revit and upgrade in south korea to meet standard and modern warfare, That alone are far better than any chinese made sub.
S.Korea's German type209 copy ... do u know it ? 1,200-ton not a AIP sub. S.Korea's German type214 copy, it's a 1.800-ton AIP sub, but still small.

S.Korea type214 copy 1,800ton vs China type039 AIP 2,300ton ... hehe

And i read, Germany offer type214 sub bid for this Thailand sub purchase...:coffee:, as Thailand officially told to news media China AIP sub can stay in 21days under water more than others AIP subs.
 
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And how reliable chinese sub are?? Noisy and not eficient, sure it can dive longer.... But with chinese sub it may dive forever into the abys lol.....
Hehe ... u just only know what West news told , when did u hear China subs captured by U.S or Japan ships, or sink like India ?

Well ... here in the region Vietnam has 4x Kilo, Thailand to have 3x S26T, Indonesia to have several S.Korea type209 copy ... u will find the truth.

China Navy just right now has 12x kilo, 13x type039, 12x type039B (type041), several type039C, 1x type032(VLS missile test), 40+ type035, 10+ nuclear subs. I think China subs all r fine .
 
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It seem the thai never learn from their past mistake, poor thai navy....

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Hehe ... u just only know what West news told , when did u hear China subs captured by U.S or Japan ships, or sink like India ?

Well ... here in the region Vietnam has 4x Kilo, Thailand to have 3x S26T, Indonesia to have several S.Korea type209 copy ... u will find the truth.

China Navy just right now has 12x kilo, 13x type039, 12x type039B (type041), several type039C, 1x type032(VLS missile test), 40+ type035, 10+ nuclear subs. I think China subs all r fine .

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And how reliable chinese sub are?? Noisy and not eficient, sure it can dive longer.... But with chinese sub it may dive forever into the abys lol.....
good enough to pop up in middle of u.s. navy exercise to wave their flag. lol. and that was with older generation sub :D


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China sub stalked U.S. fleet - Washington Times

By - The Washington Times - Monday, November 13, 2006

A Chinese submarine stalked a U.S. aircraft carrier battle group in the Pacific last month and surfaced within firing range of its torpedoes and missiles before being detected, The Washington Times has learned.



The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced
By MATTHEW HICKLEY

Published: 10 November 2007

When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.

At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.

That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.

American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.

The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.

One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.

The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.

The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines.

And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it.

According to the Nato source, the encounter has forced a serious re-think of American and Nato naval strategy as commanders reconsider the level of threat from potentially hostile Chinese submarines.

It also led to tense diplomatic exchanges, with shaken American diplomats demanding to know why the submarine was "shadowing" the U.S. fleet while Beijing pleaded ignorance and dismissed the affair as coincidence.

Analysts believe Beijing was sending a message to America and the West demonstrating its rapidly-growing military capability to threaten foreign powers which try to interfere in its "backyard".

The People's Liberation Army Navy's submarine fleet includes at least two nuclear-missile launching vessels.

Its 13 Song Class submarines are extremely quiet and difficult to detect when running on electric motors.

Commodore Stephen Saunders, editor of Jane's Fighting Ships, and a former Royal Navy anti-submarine specialist, said the U.S. had paid relatively little attention to this form of warfare since the end of the Cold War.

He said: "It was certainly a wake-up call for the Americans.

"It would tie in with what we see the Chinese trying to do, which appears to be to deter the Americans from interfering or operating in their backyard, particularly in relation to Taiwan."

In January China carried a successful missile test, shooting down a satellite in orbit for the first time.

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced | Daily Mail Online
 
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And how reliable chinese sub are?? Noisy and not eficient, sure it can dive longer.... But with chinese sub it may dive forever into the abys lol.....
China has built its first nuclear sub with the pressure hull of over 12-meter diameter 44 years ago. Korea was even not able to build a sub with the pressure hull of less than 7-meter diameter without the help of Germany, in addition because of the quality problem the 214 type subs Korea built have been exposed for their serious noise problems.
 
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Bwahahahahah......... dude, what i meant by poor is, i pity the thai navy personel that have to serve in those chinese sub someday lol, not saying their social status, and by the way i am not those kind of people that worship iphone, i do use samsung and sony handset, not because i can't afford an iphone, but because i like those gadget alot rather than silly fashionable iphone.......


Uhhh.....if the chinese sub are really good, why are the PLAN still purchase russian sub lol big time
.....oh by the way, don't forget about malaysian and singaporean, we may lack in quantity, but with sure win with quality :)

you make no sense. you talk about quality, but you want to buy submarines from korea that have little experience in sub building and technology. lol. stop pretending like you give a shit. we know your kind :lol:

Ohh......guys, indeed the PLAN has manage to stalk american fleet, and yes the PLAN are using the ol good russian Kilo class sub, not chinese sub :p

it was 039 song class. did you even read? what's your next excuse?lol


this warship below is a good example of why you shouldn't buy from company with little or no experience. its looks nice and shiny cutting edge.. :D
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China has built its first nuclear sub with the pressure hull of over 12-meter diameter 44 years ago. Korea only was able to build a sub with the pressure hull of less than 7-meter diameter under the help of Germany, and because of the quality problem the 214 type subs Korea built have been exposed for their serious noise problems.

The German conventional sub is perhaps slightly better than China's, but South Korea has no business to compete with China.

China's sub technology is at least 30-40 years ahead of South Korea.


China's sub figure is outdated in the chart, since we got more than 70 subs for now.
 
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you make no sense. you talk about quality, but you want to buy submarines from korea that have little experience in sub building and technology. lol. stop pretending like you give a shit. we know your kind :lol:



it was 039 song class. did you even read? what's your next excuse?lol


this warship below is a good example of why you shouldn't buy from company with little or no experience. its looks nice and shiny cutting edge.. :D
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I doubt it a song class, those ship are look the same as kilo....it just a lips service by the PLA so the song will look good. Comparing korean sub and chinese sub are like comparing samsung galaxy 6 vs xiaomi phone haha
With the klewang class, accident do happen, the same with submarine accident that happen to chinese submarine force several time :)
 
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Having the capacity of building your own subs will make more sense than simply purchasing a few more.
It will allow you to build unlimited number of weapons with lower future cost.
In real wars purchasing weapons from others will not work, either blocked or too late to arrive.

Pakistani version is different
Pakistani boats will be modified according to needs of PN like SLCM Nuclear strike capability .. moreover PAkistan will make them at karachi shipyard under TOT
that's why Thailand is paying 300 M USD for each sub while Pakistan will pay about 500 M USD each submarine
 
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I doubt it a song class, those ship are look the same as kilo....it just a lips service by the PLA so the song will look good. Comparing korean sub and chinese sub are like comparing samsung galaxy 6 vs xiaomi phone haha
With the klewang class, accident do happen, the same with submarine accident that happen to chinese submarine force several time :)

less Chinese sub accidents happened than American. what now lol?
 
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AIP can make the sub much quiet and less likely detected.
Not sure if Korea sub has AIP or not.
Also most south east Asia country does not have respectful anti-sub capacity..

I doubt it a song class, those ship are look the same as kilo....it just a lips service by the PLA so the song will look good. Comparing korean sub and chinese sub are like comparing samsung galaxy 6 vs xiaomi phone haha
With the klewang class, accident do happen, the same with submarine accident that happen to chinese submarine force several time :)
 
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I doubt it a song class, those ship are look the same as kilo....it just a lips service by the PLA so the song will look good. Comparing korean sub and chinese sub are like comparing samsung galaxy 6 vs xiaomi phone haha
With the klewang class, accident do happen, the same with submarine accident that happen to chinese submarine force several time :)

South Korea got more popular smartphone doesn't mean they got a more advanced military industrial complex than China.

Just look at their space program, they can't even launch a 100kg payload rocket alone.

In comparison, China had already accomplished this in almost half century ago.
 
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