$1.41 billion credit under Indian LoC 3, for building & expanding 400 kv transmission grid

[UKBengali]

Why this condition is critical for India where as BD can have good relation with China although China is the strongest backer of Mynmar regime since long time. Are you going to tone down your relation with China beause they support Mynmar at the expense of BD?

Good relationship requires understanding each others constraint..rather than creating constraint for others...India has no control over Myanmar. So why should India try to make a policy for Myanmar which is another neighouring country like BD when we are not directly impacted due to this problem...And again, did BD switch off teh relationship with Myanmar because of Rohingya issue?

1. China is not trying to expel it's Muslims by labelling them as BD'shis.

2. India has offered 8.5 billion US dollars which will take nearly 2 decades to utilise. This is hardly a gamechanger for BD. India has not much else it can offer BD.
China has offered 10s of billions of US dollars in low interest loans, biggest source of arms imports and an export market that has grown 30% a year to reach 1 billion US dollars for BD now.

If India wants good relations for the long term, it needs to start treating BD with more respect. Hasina is 71 years old now.

 

[gslv mk3]

Simply put - Indian suppliers cannot compete with Chinese in India itself.

If you forgot to update yourself, BHEL regained profitability last year.

More than 60% of that sector's demands are fulfilled by indigenous production, and BHEL have been including 1.32 GW TPP in Tamil Nadu & 2.4 GW TPP in Jharkhand.

Also...

https://energy.economictimes.indiat...-worth-rs-20400-crore-from-telangana/61181791

BHEL will also benefit from investments in nuclear sector such as 14 new PHWRs in pipeline +AHWR/FBR projects.

It is also diversifying into fields such as defence & metro rail (JV with Kawasaki)

In India itself, heavy electrical supply companies like BHEL are going begging to private utility companies to sell 3000-5000 MW level power-plants and electrical transmission equipment (substations, transformers etc.) because they simply cannot compete

I have never heard about them begging, it might as well be a figment of your imagination (like billions of dollars worth in Walton export).

BHEL (and other Indian firms) have been bagging contracts in international biddings.

 

[Bilal9]

Hasina is 71 years old now.

Exactly - and won't live forever. But Indian politicians will change their tune - not to worry. Given the chameleons and turncoats that they are....fact.

 

[Kaniska]

1. China is not trying to expel it's Muslims by labelling them as BD'shis.

2. India has offered 8.5 billion US dollars which will take nearly 2 decades to utilise. This is hardly a gamechanger for BD. India has not much else it can offer BD.
China has offered 10s of billions of US dollars in low interest loans, biggest source of arms imports and an export market that has grown 30% a year to reach 1 billion US dollars for BD now.

If India wants good relations for the long term, it needs to start treating BD with more respect. Hasina is 71 years old now.

I will put the question otherway around...Hasina is your problem..Not India's issue. If BD does not recognize India's sentiment then it is not our problem. How we treat our citizen is none of BD issue. In the same way, how BD treat Hindus of BD is not India's problem...Now, it is upto BD is they like the way, India operates or they have the option to cancel the loan.

 

[gslv mk3]

Indian contract which stipulates that we have to use expensive

For the first time, I'm seeing a Bangladeshi complain about 'expensive' projects. @SOUTHie

Anyway, on topic- transmission lines

India Commissions World's Highest (1200 kV UHV AC) Power Transmission Voltage NTS

There are several Indian suppliers for this...transformers & switchgears and all...

CG develops indigenous 1,200 kV Transformer

http://wap.business-standard.com/ar...voltage-power-transformer-116100700423_1.html

India’s PowerGrid and a clutch of 35 domestic electrical equipment manufacturers have jointly developed a system for transmitting bulk power with a force of 1,200 kV (kilo volts)

But Indian politicians will change their tune - not to worry. Given the chameleons and turncoats that they are....fact.

Keep complaining, that's all you can do...

 

[Chhatrapati]

For the first time, I'm seeing a Bangladeshi complain about 'expensive' projects. @SOUTHie

Classic Billu bro, has no issue Chinese or Japanese looting em. When we take our profit out of it, he goes berserk.

 

[bluesky]

BD can market its product and influence with the trade and economics of NE region to sell its own goods...So both nation has to understand each others potential and try to tap it rather than engaged in useless fanciful ideas that Hindus are lower in category than Muslims or vice versa...

Point is BD will be unable to sell any of its products in large quantities to Indian NE. The sly India wants to use BD land and water to transport its goods there from the central part of India. By the way, which Indian company will be getting of contract for building the pylons? It will certainly not be a non-Indian company.

Even if the credit materializes, it will be to benefit Indian companies, who will bring in the steel angles/pipes and others from India and erect them in BD. This is the reason I do not usually think BD is developing. If a development project does not give jobs to the BD steel and cement companies or a local construction company, I do not think that development project benefits BD. Non-involvement of local companies makes BD to go one step ahead, but three steps back. All the money goes back to the lender nation.

 

[Kaniska]

Point is BD will be unable to sell any of its products in large quantities to Indian NE. The sly India wants to use BD land and water to transport its goods there from the central part of India. By the way, which Indian company will be getting of contract for building the pylons? It will certainly not be a non-Indian company.

Even if the credit materializes, it will be to benefit Indian companies, who will bring in the steel angles/pipes and others from India and erect them in BD. This is the reason I do not usually think BD is developing. If a development project does not give jobs to the BD steel and cement companies or a local construction company, I do not think that development project benefits BD. Non-involvement of local companies makes BD to go one step ahead, but three steps back. All the money goes back to the lender nation.

As i mentioned to one of your fellow countryman, you are free to make your own choice to cancel the loan...

 

[bluesky]

Classic Billu bro, has no issue Chinese or Japanese looting em. When we take our profit out of it, he goes berserk.

China and Japan do not loot us. it is India, the poor man of Asia, that loots us. Building of a few transmission pylons and pulling a few cables are not high technology. India is using its relationship with Russia to give us credit that will be taken away by the Indian by selling their shoddy products.

 

[gslv mk3]

Building of a few transmission pylons and pulling a few cables are not high technology

Sure...



India Commissions World's Highest (1200 kV UHV AC) Power Transmission Voltage NTS

 

[Bilal9]

Sure...



India Commissions World's Highest (1200 kV UHV AC) Power Transmission Voltage NTS

Stop posting links that load malware and viruses.

Indian trolls here are trying new tricks.

To what new lows will you guys stoop to?

 

[gslv mk3]

China is not trying to expel it's Muslims by labelling them as BD'shis.

And India is ? The fact that a large population of illegal Bangladeshis live in India is an established fact, vetted by several neutral agencies including the WB. Learn to accept the reality...

Stop posting links that load malware and viruses.

Ah, billu crying conspiracy... This time it is Indians posting links with malware...

That's defence.pk forum link, stupid.

 

[Chhatrapati]

China and Japan do not loot us. it is India, the poor man of Asia, that loots us. Building of a few transmission pylons and pulling a few cables are not high technology. India is using its relationship with Russia to give us credit that will be taken away by the Indian by selling their shoddy products.

Tell that to your millions of dollars per mile metro. And justify it by saying, "we are building ultra high tech metro, that's why it's expensive."

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

Stop posting links that load malware and viruses.

Indian trolls here are trying new tricks.

To what new lows will you guys stoop to?

You mean PDF is malware????

PDF is definitely Virus Infested, When a poster like you posts crap.

 

[my2cents]

I don't believe dhokabaj benya will release that amount anytime soon. If my understanding about benya character hold any truth, then expect bharati style foot dragging and variety of excuse for not giving the money as soon as BD undertake the project.Bangladesh have to keep the nuclear power plant idle for many years if it put trust on Indian credit financed transmission line construction.That 5 billion dollar credit was a total farce.It was a total hogwash to show Bangladesh that they can compete(!) with china.But the reality is, India do not have 5 billion dollar to begin with.Do you think India is a type of country which can flaunt 5 billion dollar at it's whim? No, if that was the case then it could have at least build some toilet for the 60 percent of it's people who shit on the street.

I don't think we ever offered one country that much of line of credit. 5 billion is a lot of money and people like you give us enough reasons to not trust you with it. I am not sure whatever happened with $2 billion LOC that was offered last year. Is it an extension of that credit??

If India wants good relations with BD for long term it needs to stop doing dumb things like publicly going to Myanmar and supporting savages when they are engaged in ethnic cleansing, and labelling it's Muslims as BD'shis. Hasina is not going to be around for more than the term after the next election.

Why are you bringing it up now after the fact?? That was a planned trip as a part of itinerary for our PM to get to know the governments in our neighbourhood. Are you ascribing guilt by association??