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The ancient Chinese had a habit of recycling exonyms. The Vietnamese share the character Yue(越) with Nanyue(南越) therefore the two are somehow related. It makes as much sense as insinuating modern day Memphis,Tennessee is the same as the Memphis,Egypt.

So whenever a Vietnamese entity provokes the wrath of Chinese dynasties and suffer as a result the blame is shifted towards the Chinese. The irony being that some "Chinese invasions" are the result of a fallen dynasty seeking Chinese aid to restore them. Vietnamese are so proud of evicting...

There was no Vietnam prior to local elites adopting a Sinitic concept,neither was there a Chinese nation state if you look at Sinicization there is a great deal of local elites adopting Chinese culture while modern day Vietnam was actually settled earlier than other parts of southern China and...

And Japanese wonder why Chinese,Koreans etc are still upset over WW2,atrocities are glossed over as modernization while two faced apologies are the norm.

I'm not putting the blame on anyone,it doesn't matter what ethnicity or nationality produces the counterfeit product. Just like the rest of the world there are corrupt/greedy/unscrupulous businessmen in China. I can't speak for the other members but from what I sense is that some doubt the...

Do you honestly think that counterfeit goods are only produced in China? Nobody in this thread called Vietnamese monkeys or insulted their skin tone. Inferiority complex manifests itself in interesting ways.

I wonder how many times this nonsense will be debunked and repeated ad nauseam. Information on the Qin/Han terracotta figures,Han Chinese genetics,historical censuses and Yuan legal code are all widely available on the internet,a pity that these would be taken in consideration.

Since when are Malays part of the 56 minorities? Neither the Miao,Han or any modern day ethnic identity existed in ancient history,what is clear is that Chi You was worshiped by Zhou,Qin and Han entities which are the precursors to a "Han" identity. Nobody denies that the historical "Han"...

You're right whether or not someone is Han has no relevance to one's personal achievements. What I do have an issue with is your constant attempts to claim that you are more Chinese than mainlanders while making slanderous claims that Fujianese Han are Sinicized Malay or that Northern Han are...

Why do foreigners always try to pretend to be more Chinese than the real Chinese? This is my maternal grandfather who's ancestors came from Quanzhou to Taiwan 11 or 12 generations ago,tell me is this "Malay"? While you want to harp your Malay,Arabian or Persian ancestry I have no problem...

You want me to believe that the Xiongnu,Hunnic,Hephthalite,Gok Turuk,,Avar,Khazar,Uighur,Karakhanid,Ghaznavid,Khwarazmian,Kipchak,Timurid and Mughal empires were located in Anatolia? Does it hurt your Pan-Turkist agenda that the first example of script depicting Turkic languages was found in...

Do Anatolian Turks have no shame? Other than the Seljuk and Ottoman empires what do Anatolian Turks have to do with the rest of the so called empires? Xiongnu spoke Yenesian,Huns an unknown language and Hephthalites Iranian as well as Batu speaking a Mongolic language yet Turkish nationalists...

It should be no surprise some members on PDF suffer from cognitive dissonance,the Gok Turuks(ie the Tujue) look nothing like modern day Anatolian Turks and originated in the Eurasian Steppes. Even if we assume modern day Uighurs are direct descedants of the Uighur Qaghanate,there are plenty of...

You have no relationship with the ancient Minoans,Greeks or Romans. Same reason why I'm not from Han China,or modern day Pakistanis are the heir of the IVC. From the history of your posts,it seems you take pride in the achievements of extinct civilizations,while trying to belittle other...

While your claim is rooted in myth,the Zuozhuan as well as the Guo yu attest to the existence of a Liu state. Ji Jizi( descended from the Liu cadet branch of Ji),was enfeoffed with his own land around modern day Henan. My mother's surname is also 劉,is she Vietnamese:woot:

劉,has its origin in China,nothing you say will change that Vietnamese surnames are derived off Chinese ones.

What's funny is that Cantonese MDNA doesn't even cluster with Tai Kadai,Hmong Mien,Austro Asiatic or Austronesian(except for Zhanjiang Han) speakers.(So much for Nanyue natives being "Vietnamese") While unsurprisingly Kinh MDNA also varies by region. Number denotes the amount of samples...

In ancient China there was no concept of DNA,therefore using genetic evidence to prove or disprove ethnic identity is an exercise in futility. We have a jealous Vietnamese member who resorts to the same debunked lies in order to prove that Chinese are secretly Baiyue therefore southern Chinese...

You really do love repeating the same debunked crap. Vietnamese are so Sinicized they have to fabricate history that is intrinsically based in China,using Chinese concepts and Chinese deities if this doesn't raise a red flag about the veracity of the myths then I don't know what will. The...

Yet there's a disproportionate amount of Vietnamese active here that ascribe to historical fabrications. The narrative in Vietnam still exists that Vietnam always existed and that Chinese are invaders,therefore Vietnamese members are upset that their culture is a carbon copy of Chinese culture...