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  1. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I had an argument with two boomers about this... They kept saying SCYTALYS is somehow going to magically datalink the F-16 and Su-27/30/35 together even though they can't answer my question of whether or not Russia and America will give you the source code for the radar data. Again, boomers...
  2. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    No, if we get the F-35, it will be the A variant.
  3. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Ditto
  4. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I love how the F-16 is conveniently not on that list even though it's the likeliest one to be bought.
  5. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    He knows that. The statement that came out is a political one and isn't something that people in the know should be concerned about. For the most part if they go ahead with the Osprey, you can guarantee that PTDI would become a major player in Bell's global supply chain. Not specifically the...
  6. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    The most pressing thing currently is to maximize the Corvette and Frigate fleets with ASW, ASuW, and AAW weapons along with hulls. Introducing Destroyers and LPH's should not be a priority since we have trouble maintaining fleet readiness as is.
  7. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    The main difference between the AW and the Opsrey is the FMS/FMF system. In the sense this is a government to government deal without a broker being involved. For the most part as this is Bell, even if they DO need a broker then PTDI is likely the one who is conducting all the work here in...
  8. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Honestly we should take this as a lesson in transparency. The US being transparent with the DSCA means they can abet blame as they had laid everything out in the open. MinDef not making it publicly known for over 2 years that they were talking to Bell as a counter to the Chinook deal ended up...
  9. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Not saying that there were no bribes involved as that's just business as usual here. What really irks off corruptors when it comes to US deals is that it is harder to misappropriate, mark up, or redirect funds when everything is laid out in a public press release and an online copy of the...
  10. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    And I also said that unlike European, Russian, or South Korean deals; American ones are notoriously hard to corrupt. Don't mince my words please. Which happened on our end where the General misappropriated money on his own. I doubt Boeing or the US government had anything to do with it.
  11. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Building on to what @Gen3115 said, fielding F-35B's would also only work if we also have a ship that is fast enough to launch them as well. Most people don't realize that you can't simply place an SVTOL aircraft onto a flat top and expect it to launch. You need to be of a certain speed to be...
  12. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Quite fitting this all came after 4th of July.
  13. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Calling it right now guys, either the additional Apache order would include more airframes than the speculated 8 (looking at 16) or they would include more weapon fit outs for the ones that are already in operation. And before someone tells me we can't afford it. Any additional Apache order...
  14. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Look in the brightside guys, having 8 MV-22's with all relevant support infrastructure built on the get go means that the MV-22 would likely become the standard heavy lift across the entire service. If the Air Force wants to get the Chinook they would have to pay for a contract within a similar...
  15. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    It would likely be lower than $1.68B for the original batch since we wouldn't need to pay for more infrastructure to be built. Similar to how the original Dutch deal for CH-47D's was a lot more than the current $308M deal for 12 CH-47F's. Oh it will, you guys also realize that operating the...
  16. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Personally, I'm glad Prabowo decided to negotiate Life Sustainment into the contract. This should be the standard from now on. You always see Slavaboos in other forums parroting off saying how operating Mi-26's is the more 'economical' option, but they'd quickly shut their mouths when you ask...
  17. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Yep, again it's that high because we went with the life sustainment package. Meaning Boeing would support the fleet throughout its entire length of service.
  18. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I doubt it, it was either this or the Chinook. It's higher because it includes the life sustainment costs (life maintenance, spare parts, etc.) similar to the Apache deal which was $1.68B. This was done because the old defense minister never wanted to negotiate life sustainment packages and...
  19. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Hell yeah, I called it! Classic American diplomacy at its finest. Literally any Indonesian Slavaboo that says that "aMeRiCA iS OuR eNeMY aND rUSsiA iS oUr FRiEnD!!1!!" can pound sand. Also, all the people who used to make fun of me saying I was bullshitting when it came to Bell talking to PTDI...
  20. Chestnut

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    What you need is to stop relying on government run companies and rely on private ones. A private company wouldn't get affected as much by a change in administration since they'd be relying on their own funds or on a stipulated contract with government.
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