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If he's OK with India not being accountable for its actions (against Pakistan), why isn't he OK with similar treatment of Pakistan? I don't get it. India is an angel and Pakistan is evil? Bullsh*t, its realpolitik and both sides practice it whether Mr Paritosh likes it or not. I disagree, its...

If Pakistanis can swallow the fact their country is being bullied in every way possible by a country far bigger and with far more resources, a country that wouldn't dare pick on somebody its own size, I don't see why you can't swallow Pakistan's desire to procure weapons by any means possible...

I never said Pakistan has all the infrastructure necessary to build a modern combat aircraft, I only proved your statement that "PAF has none of these" facilities to be wrong, according to Western sources. Many people poke fun at Pakistan being "incapable of any contribution to JF-17 except...

Pictures: F-22P - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 76 mm main gun (and probably depth charge launchers in front): FM-90 surface to air missile launcher: Anti-ship missile (cruise missile?) launchers: Torpedo launchers:

Report them, there's no point in writing quality replies to a bunch of insecure 15 year olds. Lots of posts need deleting here. The news report only proves how ridiculous the thinking of these trolls is, they are actually arguing that Pakistan is evil for defending itself! :lol: :lol: You...

All modern attack choppers are heavier than the original Cobra, even the new Cobra version (Super Cobra) has two engines instead of one in the original. The original Cobra is so light it can't carry the heavy weapons needed to destroy the most modern tanks. Armed with the HJ-10, the Chinese...

I think he's saying the PAF will receive some J-10 for training pilots and ground crews before arrival of FC-20 in 2014-2015. They are already doing a similar thing with Erieye and Il-78 tankers, arguably JF-17 also. Sweden delivered a Saab 2000 last year and the PAF are leasing 1 or 2 Il-78...

Really? Pakistan Special Weapons - A Chronology, www.fas.org :coffee:

MILGEM is a different class. F-22P is 25% larger than MILGEM, meaning it can stay on patrol longer, carry more jet fuel for the chopper, more ammunition, more UAVs, more room for upgrades, etc. MILGEM corvettes can't work as far out as 22P. 22P can be fitted with the "superior latest...

But F-22P is just a cheap anti-submarine platform, right Penguin? It would be used to deploy helicopters armed with dipping sonar and torpedoes for hunting submarines. They can keep Pakistan's sea lanes clear of enemy submarines, protecting the merchant shipping. It is a cheap helicopter/UAV...

What secrets do you think 251 hides?

F-20 Tigershark F-20 looks awesome, somebody needs to photoshop a dark grey/black JF-17 so we can compare. PAFAce, didn't it die because the USAF was pushing the F-16? They wanted to bring the F-16 unit cost down by exporting it in numbers. F-20 was better in close combat but F-16 was...

Another fighter similar to JF-17, from:www.canit.se Alternative Gripens Saab's 2102, one of the designs considered by Saab when they were designing the Gripen, "which was a F-16 look-alike but smaller and with side intakes":

Does the information say anything about the technical specification, is China allowing European radars to be fitted? What about the engine, is Taihang ready for export or will it be Al-31? According to a reliable Pakistani source, Pakistan started talks with China to buy J-10 in year 2000 but...

There's agents here using many different flags, one more won't make a difference. What was offensive in his post? All he said was that PAF should buy the jet that meets their needs.

Sorry AM, my bad. I didn't like hasnain's tone.

Please note that Niaz said "in an ideal world, with no financial constraints". Niaz and I agree with you that JF-17 is the only option which allows the PAF to maintain some numerical strength.

So we can say that the pitch axis-only FBW was to save time during the development/testing stages rather than to reduce cost? But the debate continues on how competent a fighter it actually is. The main argument by the detractors being that if it isn't as good as any of the Euro-canards, it...

Nice pics, thanks for posting them Bezerk. I'd really appreciate any info you have on AK getting a new auto-loader that can fire long-rod penetrator AP rounds, along with separate ammo storage and blow-out panels. Will we have to wait for AK-II, or will AK-I have these kinds of features (if so...

Makes sense, thanks for posting that info. By 6 flight control system computers, he is referring to 3 flight control computers (one for each axis), 2 computers for a pair of emergency power supplies and 1 air data computer for telling the flight control computers what the jet is doing. One...