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Absolutely wonderful! Thanks Aeronaut! I hope in the not so distant future we will see Mi-35's and later the T-129. Whether it's floods, earthquakes, utility needs, combat or troop transportation, I think PAA pilots and maintenance crews deserve a lot. Hats off to Alan Warnes also.

I love how scared you've become that your mighty defence partner is soon going to shove one up yours. It's okay man.... I would be too :yahoo:.

I'm sure time will tell. But unfortunately for Indians, it wont as bright as it was say, 5 years ago.

This is good for Pakistan. India has been shopping in the US market for quite a few things as of late. Politically, I'm sure the Russians will be butthurt and more willing to sell to Pakistan after deals like this are inked. Any fool is sadly mistaken if they believe that Putin would let these...

Hmm what do you know. So after going on and on about the unofficial RCS of the MKI, you admit that there is no source hence why the entire argument would be pointless. In this case, I still stand by my initial thought. Whale.

No offense... but are you illiterate or are you an idiot? You must be one or the other. For the 3rd time I'm asking that you present consistent official facts with regards to the RCS of the MKI. Just because the topic was discussed on PDF doesn't mean that the information was accurate. You...

According to this, which is a post on another military forum btw, the MKI RCS is 11.5. But where does it say that this is the full combat loadout RCS as you claim? This number is most probably the empty loadout RCS. In which case, the MKi is infact what I said it was earlier - a WHALE. Not to...

I understood your question the first time you asked it. Consequently, I'm asking that you find consistent official facts claiming the MKI's RCS.

Easy there tiger. Unless you can find multiple, consistent official facts which state that the RCS of the whale that you call an MKI is 4 without a weapons load and 11-12 with a load, I'm not going to argue with you.

I'm sorry to say, but for your last 4 posts all I've read is ferrari, mercedez, utilitiy and some other complete bogus statements my friend. This is a military forum where we discuss facts and arguments. Not a car enthusiast pub filled with analogies of nonsense.

Those figures are laughable. The SU-27 is 15 but the legendary MKI is at 4??? Oh please. "best available facts on the net" Don't make me laugh.

1. No organization? What are you? 5? 2. I suppose your Tejas is a 5th gen aircraft right? 3. Understandably. 4. I don't know what news you've been reading, but the bombs being dropped for the last 5-6 years on hideouts in KP and FATA don't fall from clouds buddy. 5. Oh and the Mig 29s were...

Don't mind if I do. Enjoy paying the 2.5? 3? billion bill! Don't forget the 10% tip (which, lets be honest, was probably pocketed by one person or another :) )

Overrated Modi's out to blow the taxpayers money :) That's all. Useless purchases.

F#^% that. The Russians can keep their shit and India can quit whining. Pakistan should have lobbied for attack helicopters from the US given that we're doing their dirty work and solving the puzzle they couldn't in Afghanistan. God dammit why waste our money when we don't have to. Get the...

I appreciate the clarification.

^ I'm not referring to the BrahMos. I'm referring to the missile TEST which I have clearly stated.

Let me guess. You're supposed to be his personal defence force? I merely speculated that the development of this missile test might be in response to the Babur test. What did I say that was unwarranted? If you had any sense in you, you'd agree that the last 3 words of his reply were what was...

If you're going to criticize/comment, keep it to the point. Reported for being a feckless child.

Good response to recent atrocities. I hope they keep this up, along with intel in the FATA regions so that the PAF knows when and where to strike.