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Eagle. Please stop this wishlisting and on top of that, insisting such that the US should pay for everything. With all due respect, thats all you ever do. If the TuAF had the clearence to take them down, they would be down already. So please refrain.

I stopped reading right there.

1. If a new airframe is better than a 30 year old airframe, then please enlighten me as to why countries all around the world continue to purchase the F-16 over the JF-17. 2. You are right... ON PAPER the F-16 ADF is inferior to the JF-17. But once again, you would be very naive to jump to...

With all due respect, you're comparing a platform that has seen service with more than 20 nations around the world, is 40 odd years in maturity and seen action with a handul of countries of which we are a part... to one that has only been in service for 4 years, has seen no major conflict apart...

Informant, Munir is telling you and everyone else exactly what the situation is: The ex-RJAF F-16's are a good addition, but it's far from a game changer. Let's all put aside this spare parts nonsense and agree that new F-16s will serve a great purpose in a force which is doing the best it can...

@DANGER-ZONE I'm not too sure why you say this Danger? :S

I believe that you, as well as a few others here, are candy-coating the fully capabilities and performance of these fighters. As Pakistanis, anything F-16 will make us happy but I believe we were better off without these planes as they will turn into nightmares in 5-6 years. Before you shoot me...

I wish this thread could be stickied so people on here would think twice about making wish-lists with 250+ F-22's, F-18's for the navy along with aircraft carriers.

Alright... Although I have my skepticism, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are not Nishan. But please explain to me how or why Pakistan would buy the used and abused Venezuelan F-16's OR why even they would be interested to sell? Do you understand that they are older than...

Nishan, I pray for the day you post something other than what pn/pa/paf "need" to do or buy... honestly.

Chinese subs, especially those without AIP, are just pieces of metal in water. Pakistan should be opting for 2-3 state-of-the-art German submarines instead.

I'm very skeptical of any "paffalcons" or "pafwallpapers" watermarked picture... almost always seemed photoshopped!!

Oh cmon. That's a very naive thing to say. Pardon me if I sound confrontational at all (I dont mean to), but India fumes even when frigates from the 80's are transferred to us with little cost (PNS Alamgir), let alone an air force platform. I'm sure if you do a quick google search you'll also...

I understand what you're saying now.. however, you have to take in to the account the economies of the countries you have stated as well. If I'm not mistaken, South Korea's economy is behind only China and Japan in Asia, they have the money to spend and the States will provide them with...

^ You clearly do not have an understanding of the relationship between the states and Israel. If you even think Pakistan can acheive that sort of air force, you are very mistaken. Israel has the firepower it has because of the strong manipulation, influence, power and control they have in the...

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+13 Jordanian. Pakistani media report that the government has inked a deal with Jordan for 12 used F-16As and 1 F-16B: “With this, the strength of PAF F-16s will reach 76…. The deal… has been authenticated by the manufacturing company and the US government has also given its nod for the...

I understand your frustration.. reviving a half-year old thread speaks on its own. But there are more important sectors in which our finances can be allocated at the moment. It will take time but we will get there eventually. We simply do not have the budget to run the types of programs you are...

^And I suppose you will bankroll the check from your own chequings account??