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It seems that with the stocky two wheeled front landing gear that the J 31 was meant for naval or carrier operations. A single piece canopy is not sufficient to withstand the larger impact forces of larger seabirds. This is the same reason the F 35 uses a two piece canopy. China already has one...

First of all use normal sized text. making your words larger do not make them any more true. maybe there is a scandal. This does not affect its performance so it is irrelevant to the discussion.

No. The barak 1 already has a very compact vls . There would be no reason to design a completely new VLS system that can quad pack barak 1 and do nothing else. Not only illogical but a complete waste of time. The SM 2ER is the missile current US ships use. What would you like to compare it with...

One thing I should mention. The 52C and 54A both use unique VLS cells capable of only using the HQ 9 or HQ 16 respectively. This provides and overlap of fleet defence in the long range 200 Km HQ 9 and medium range 50 Km HQ 16. The more recent type 52D uses a Universal VLS that solves the need...

None are in service. That is what i'm saying. While the 52C has been since 2003 I apologize for using launched. The day a ship is fully operational is when its commissioned, which none of the P 15A are. The first type 52C was commissioned in 2003. Also why does it take from 2006 to 2012 to...

You have no idea what you are talking about in relation to universal VLS units. If it cannot hold both types of missiles then it can not possibly be universal never mind having the ability to be quad packed. Thats the very concept of a universal vls that you are trying to prove is on the P 15A...

Yes and that one was based on conjecture that the Ukrainians denied in the article i posted. Type 346 257 km for a target that is a 4 times larger than a clean f 16 which is 1m1. This is the range stated by elbis to be the radar range of. I do not need to imagine what the P 15 range is. In...

Do you even understand what the whole point a modern fleet defense is for these days? Hmm could it be that it has to provide defense for the entire fleet that includes aircraft carriers. The barak 8 meant for the P 15A is the 70 km version. The HQ 9 is still a 200 km range missile. If you want...

Not all VLS units are the same. The ones that hold the barak 8 and barak 1 are specifically designed for that missile. That is why they have a fixed amount for that ship. You can not put a barak 8 missile in a barak 1 cell or the other way around are they are completely different sizes and were...

Read the title of this page. Yeah you guys are good at lying to yourself alright.

Indians have a laughable mindset that completely ignores actual facts and like to pull in things that are from the future to compare with others past. This kind of comparison is laughable at best and actually quite pathetic when you think about it. India has yet to actually launch a single P...

A missile that has been in service since 1997 with news channels showing it intercepting BM is not tested. My My what standards you have. As for limited capability it means it has terminal phase interception unlike the midcourse ones China is currently testing. The Nirbhay is stated to be...

1. Why exactly do you care about weight? I only put it their for a basic idea how large they are. We're talking about weapon systems here. As for the radar i would not recommend using a Wikipedia article with no citations. Type 346 There is specific belief that some of the technology...

Having far longer ranged sams is not a advantage? BMD capabilities are useless? Just because India lacks these things does not mean its useless. Both the US and Europeans View BMD and long range missiles as essential in a Fleet defense destroyer with their standard and aster missiles. BMD...

P 15B? WTF. The first P 15A has yet to be commissioned and hes talking about P15B? Is this guy real? And lol this guy thinks the radar for the type 730 CIWS is the APARs of the ship. Real professional right here. As for the HQ 9 I'll let the image speak for itself. The HQ 9 is a full...

So gessler on what basis is the 52C inferior to P15A? Anti air ? the 52C has missiles that outrange P15A's by 3 fold with BMD capabilities Antiship? the 52C has them from 400 to 2000 km range compared to the P15A's 300 km ones CIWS? the type 52C use autonomous type 730s compared to the...

Now on the original subject of comparing the type 052C to the P17. While i believe this comparison to be an bit odd seeing as one is a fleet defense destroyer and the other a frigate i will nevertheless go on and do it anyway Weight The type 52C is 7000 tons at full displacement and the P17...

I'm not an expert on Indian ships but i'll list the properties of the P 15A here in similar fashion to the type 52D. If i have made any mistakes please point then out but do it in a professional manner please. Weight The P15A's full displacement is 7000 tons Radar the P 15A's main array is...

Note that the 52D is still only an intermediary class of destroyers with less than 10 units to be built in the next few years with 3 being fitted out currently. A large batch construction for example is the 054 series with almost 20 units build so far The technologies like the Radar, and...