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Any nation that wants to show its products will only show the final or good tests. It is rocket science. You need to crash now and then. In some nations showing the tests means it is in serial production. And sometimes you do not even hear about serial production unless you spy (J10). But the...

It was rather quiet for some time. Good to see they altered the design (I think lower RCS but longer). Hope to see it added to the JF17 soon. It is a selling point

NG is serious a good plane if used in partnership with Erieye.

If TVC is considered as part of engine. It reduces.

I doubt block60 level for PAF. I do not think LCA (or its NG) will become candidates with planes like MRCA, Mig upgrade, MKI etc. But IAF surely will become very potent. But the real winner is PLAAF. Not sure what will be operational but the plans are impressing. PAF will move towards more smart...

The TVC is directly linked to the engine. Here you have a part that violently turns very hot gasses to change flight direction. Just imagine the impact of those forces on the engine. Just imagine the flow characteristics around and through the engine. And jut imagine the stresses caused by TVC...

4 hellfire, 2 GBU and a sensor pack. Impressive.

A gapfiller? I love the degrading title. As long as you can not produce something less then our gapfiller it is more then you can chew. As if F22 and JSF will enter this war scenario... Sorry China was not included. Now, indeed with FC20 and J20 and more it becomes a gapfiller.

Look, the western producers boycotted during the wars. Chine provided hand with old planes but they showed courage and results. Neither forces are bad. Probably very good if you take the circumstances they have to train or operate. I mean the Israeli superiority is based on having everything and...

Any fighter force that thinks it it gets a free lunch will have a cold shower.

name pakikutta and allowed to have so many posts. I am impressed.

3 posts... I think this is something we can lock.

If j10 is 10% better then jf17 for almost triple the costs then PAF is prossibly researching for a better option (longer range, more ordnance, good strike capability). J11 is a bigger and better platform then J10A.

They have single nose wheel so they are the older Su27's. Su30MKK has dual nosewheel and different ruddertips.

More important is that we have full RCS and IR data. So our JF17 will know everything to be good. And we will know how to fly it against the MKI.

On CMF Looks like this plane is in production. Canards included.

Since people have no idea how the F16 HMS looks like... Here.. It shows that the pictures posted are the normal helmets. Nothing more.

Superb! According to what I see I think it is the J11A or B. Ground attack as specialization hence the training with the Mirage pilots (ground attack) of Pakistan.

Su27? Su30MKK? J11?

It is pretty much the same shouting from the US lobby when it comes to F22 or JSF production. You will hear suddenly that Chinese become dominant through FC20 (which has just flown for the second time officially) or that Russia becomes dangerous again. The Indians have the same lobby and its...