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>>> J-10B was first time promoted to the Pakistan in 2006 during the visit of then President of Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf who was allowed to sit in the cockpit of J-10B. Huitong: This much improved variant (1031 prototype) made its maiden flight on December 23, 2008, powered by a Russian...

I agree that going for a total new plane is a risky option. The Fc20 is still a plane that never saw real combat and we have to wait and see what it will be. The F16 is somehow even in Pakistani psychology a known concept. PAF knows it like nothing else. They used it in real combat...

Naik is an idiot. Warmongering. You can read the arrogance between the lines. THere is zero chance that anything the Indians will do will end without mutual destruction. If he has such a big mouth why did the IAF did not do anything real after shouting about punitive actions? Why did they never...

I think they are busy with testing on J11. If it is evolved enough then.... When that will be? I expect 2014-2015 be real turning point. And 127 engines are for the J11 in service. I think those next engines are for FC20. But I do not think that with the cash the Chinese are investing right now...

Gripen or JF17... Well, I have seen the same discussion on Keymags... Let us make it more specific. Gipenc/d versus JF17 block1 The C/D were just upgraded (and not newly produced) Gripen A/B. There are not many left. And with Gripen NG on the corner, why should one invest still in the old...

I might be wrong but the dish version AWACS has three segments and does not look the same as what can be seen on the older PAF pic. The nose is different. The dish looks bigger. Maybe it is the version that PLAAF will get. Interesting pictures anyway.

Yes, the G3 is german. But the ground conditions are totally ignored in your post. If the western designs are optimized for short range and only wounding the opponent, does that impact what you see in Pakistani engagements? If the western military all are complaining that the smaller nato round...

So what will India achieve by doing anything? It will never win. If that is a superpower then anyone is a superpower. I rest my case and thanks for providing the data I wanted. ;)

Irrelevant and plain wrong. If you shoot a person in the head... Does it matter how tall he is? If you eliminate close to the border the cities like Dilli or Mumbai. If you are close to the silicon valley... What do you think you will do with clean Bihar? Spare me your big and great India logic...

Hasnain friend, 2 points that either are good or bad... 1. Back then it was a basic plane with hardly high tech parts. Maintaining block15 is not the same as block52. 2. Right now PAC is able to produce reasonable JF17 and even its components. It means a quantum leap so it would be easier to...

{Considering the short flight times between the MOB's and FOB's of India and Pakistan.. Long range missiles are operationally a problem for any pre-war scenario.. since you need to confirm hostile intent. A jet may come within ten miles of the no-man's land and then make a turn elsewhere... and...

I think that the reason we see less J10b is because the frame is tested only. They did a lot of flights in the beginning. All the needed to test is how it behaves with different inlet. So now it is probably readied for full production. We saw J10B with a different radar. That can only done after...

Add to that the ECM/ECCM/detecting active radars etc etc you know it is not just a simple game. Add to that AWACS or netcentric warfare and you have a even more complex outcome. Add to that nukes/CM/BM and you know it is not going to happen. So why is India going to raise conventional level...

You have something hostile. Why can't we communicate normal. And if you think I am active on pakdef to find you there? I like the place to get sometimes news. I am not interested in posters that are banned and keep returning back. I am not like you. But I do ask you to provide some insights. You...

Every plane is a beauty. On an air show you see that much you get spoiled in a few hours. You just run towards that you really want to see and forget 99% of the rest. Then you have to wait to get there again. Masta, I did not know you were that old...

Personally I think the delta is much more suited for weigh reduction (simple big wings and more power compared to weight). To make a light plane lighter is simply asking for almost impossible task. Asking to make an heavy plane lighter is a bit easier. There is so much to do.

two jet engines versus one piston... Just look at the weight difference!

Since the nose size seems to be different (we should Adnan whether it is same or not) we can say that the dish size is different so the range of the radar is different. Also the penalty of more or bigger sensors on J10B is less compared to the lighter JF17.

Mani my friend, we should not use Pshamim, Eaglehannan or Munir as source but Rookh aka Adnan2k as one reliable source... Just read that after being banned on Pakdef he was here screaming like a little child towards the mod of Pakdef and now he is screaming like a little girl on Munir and Pakdef...

You do know that having a powerful radar is same as shining with an huge flashlight in the dark? It means that the one that has the flashlight is seen by all opponents unless they shut their eyes... And an MKI is even with its radar off a big flashlight... If you were studying the past you will...