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    F-104 Alas the Badmash.

    I was not aware of that. I used to think the U-2 was designed specifically for high altitude reconnaissance entirely. Thanks for the info. Every day you learn something new at PDF.
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    Govt decides to expand Pak missile program

    Patriot, that is extremely offensive. There is no need to go down the gutter. Veer will be dealt with sooner or later, we do not require brainwashed junkies on this forum. You, on the other hand, have to stick around. So take it easy. Sources, sources, sources. These are some big claims, and...
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    NRO decision!

    The reason is because Gen. Musharraf did not accord any amnesty to the PML-N in the NRO. That is why we don't see their names being mentioned. The Supreme Court probably favors the PML-N right now, it was the PML-N's political weight that finally tipped the situation in their favor and forced...
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    Hakim Ullah Mesud to be made to Surrender !

    A Pashtun majority with respect to all others, I meant. 42% Pashtun, 27% Tajik; that is, there is a 15% difference between the first and the closest second. The 42% has little representation in the government, which, in any country, would be as ant-democratic as you can get. Now, I agree the...
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    NRO decision!

    Pakistanio! How can you be so uninterested in the NRO? Wake up! this is one of the best things to have happened to our political system in recent times. Let's see some intelligent debate! My question was answered by senior lawyer Abdul Hafeez Pirzada: SC can seek army’s help for...
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    Hakim Ullah Mesud to be made to Surrender !

    The Seven Conditions Agreed (courtesy fatman17): 1. Unconditional surrender of the wanted persons. 2. A total ban on the display of weapons, 3. A ban on setting up a parallel administrative and judicial system in the agency. 4. Shelter would be provided to only the local Mehsud tribesmen who...
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    IRAQ to buy 516 Fighter jets worth of billions from france and USA

    I don't know what the source of this information is, but it shouldn't come as a surprise. I mean the amount (516) sounds extraordinary, sure, but Iraq is now friendly to US interests, hence the US will have no issues with selling their equipment to the Iraqis. And why wouldn't they promote their...
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    The real Red Flag facts...USAF briefing about IAF participation

    Allowing the Air Force to engage on the other side of the border would have escalated the conflict into a full-fledged War, something neither country, recent nuclear powers, could afford. Also, the PAF was severely ill-prepared to take on the IAF Beyond Visual Range. Our aircraft would be...
  9. PAFAce

    NRO decision!

    This is interesting. It simply states "public office" and does not exclude Presidency. I wonder if this was done on purpose? I would love for clarification on this matter. What happens if the summon is turned down? For example, if Gen. Musharraf or Altaf Hussain refuse to come back to the...
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    India & Pakistan Ceasefire Violations

    I hope this isn't revenge killing. A few days back, an Indian BSF soldier needlessly lost his life in cross-border firing. Today, one of our jawans has been martyred. It's sad to see such wasteful loss of life. We must, both sides, exhibit patience; things can get ugly very quickly when soldiers...
  11. PAFAce

    I'm as mad as hell and I'm not gonna take this anymore

    I'm as mad as hell and I'm not gonna take this anymore About time every Pakistani did this.
  12. PAFAce

    Mod's

    That's just what we need. Blood-thirsty revenge-seekers in positions of power. Politics of hate is rearing its head on this forum. We don't want PDF to become like Pakistani politics now, do we? Also, the only person who makes or could make any money from this forum is WebMaster. The good...
  13. PAFAce

    IAF Sentry Shoots Colleague for failing to respond to the code word.

    There must be a criminal investigation into this incident. I think this poor guy lost his life for nothing. In peace-time, at least, it's generally not common practice to shoot the guy, especially if you see him every day. In Peshawar, soldiers/policemen have a shoot-order for anyone who breaks...
  14. PAFAce

    Operation Rah-e-Nijat (South Waziristan)

    Question 1: Answer: Not provided. Question 2: Answer: Just assumed from your claim that maybe you think that an Afghanistan focused TTP would be preferrable to you. By the way, doc, loved the rest of your post. Agree with it, all except the PsyOps part (what happened there?). Afghanistan...
  15. PAFAce

    A captaincy to forget

    After a long absence, I could manage the courage to come back to the "Cricket" section. I was so disheartened, disappointed, and downright pissed at our performace on the last day of the second test against Australia, I promised myself I will not watch the third Test. However, this topic is...
  16. PAFAce

    Attack Helicopter Match-Ups: India vs. Pakistan

    Are we talking about helicopter dogfights or are we talking about air support? In air support, it should be more-or-less even going by the stats (which is, according to zraver, a battleproven theory). If we're talking helicopter dogfights, then I guess we're mssing the point of these helicopters...
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    Operation Rah-e-Nijat (South Waziristan)

    You're absolutely right. They are vengeful bast*rds. The would love to pull off another GHQ, but if that fails, at the very least they would want to create another Peshawar market blast type tragedy. These are very difficult times to keep watch, we can't protect every single inch of Pakistani...
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    U.S. Killed Terrorist on Wanted List, Pakistani Officials Say

    If he was convicted and served time, why wasn't he off the "Most Wanted" list? Legally speaking, he should have been a free citizen. I'm afraid it looks like this man was killed despite having served his time. Also, one must ask the question, what happened to the 1,500 prisoners in Cyprus and...
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    India's Hatred against Pakistan!

    Poverty, illiteracy, hate, politics etc. have no nationality and no religion. Neither does power, money, greed, selfishness etc. However, as long as we have people who encourage war for the sake of war, like the men in the video or Zaid Hamid or the Taliban etc., we must ensure that...
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    The Next Tendulkar

    Wow. This kid has the technique I could only dream of. Footwork was on the mark, and he pretty much middled everything. But why the heck is the ball so big and bright green? I Can see why Super Falcon thought it was doctored. And yes, Dravid is by far the most eye-pleasing batsman India has...
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