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really go read some books and history written by your own generals on kargil than come back and talk kid :coffee: Belligerents India Pakistan Commanders and leaders Ved Prakash Malik Pervez Musharraf Strength 30,000 5,000 Casualties and losses Indian official figures 527 killed[2][3][4]...

Does that matter your politicians do that all the time they just need a topic to do it and about economy a country in the state of war for last 15 years yes we are doing quite good in that matter and we are getting better go cry a river over it hint CPEC:china::pakistan:

so does that mean you making AC's buying new jets is because of the shiver to the spine of IA IN :coffee:

really what an irony do you know what we've been doin in kashmir for last 67 year and in punjab people chanting khalistan zindabad recently :haha:

really you think we needed atami hathiyar in kargil when the casualties from your side was so high that there was an emergency on coffin makings in INDIA :woot:

cuz you didn't had the balls to make us do that in niether 2002 or 2008 :bunny:

and is there any news of JFT blck 3 getting EODAS system ???

LOL thats not my writing thats the artical from a reliable source go teach tham a leeson or 2 so they won't publish such things ever agian will ya OLD MAN :P

the word exercise i think you didn't get it did you let me give you a link than :) Top USAF general explains EXACTLY how to kill an F-22 by Stephen Trimble on 28 February, 2012 in Uncategorised Hopefully, you will never find yourself in air-to-air combat with a Lockheed Martin F-22...

in BVR combat sukhoi's won't have a chance to even look at those fighters and wouldn't even know what hit em let me give you an example F-15 (the most advanced block) vs SU 30 quite same many would say (although i believe F-15 is better) .. so americans in an exercise against f-22 used f-15 both...

and who was the enemy BTW :P and what about PAF ???

we asked you the same after mumbai attacks and you said we found hockey match stick from him which is a pakistani brand eeeehhhhhhhhhhh INDIAN logic :P

47 no air war my friend as you said...... 65 as you said :)........ 71 please check the amount of losses on both sides there were only 15 jets from pakistani side which participated from east PAK (bangladesh) in that war vs you 12 squadrons of diff types of jets still you lost around 19 of your...

Really I mean really ??? sure you not joking ??? 48 Hours ??? i mean Really ??? Go read kid 4 wars fought between us get me some reports of how many aircrafts destroyed on our side and how many on your ? And in which war you had the air dominance out of the 4 ??? 48 hours huff ......:coffee:

actually you guys took my questions the wrong way i asked whether it would have a diff airframe and better radar in blck 3 and use of composites and etc but than was thrown into this type of VS situation my simple concern is JFT 17 (light and small fighter single engine) cannot match the big bad...

so you mean we are going to put JFT against Mirage 2K Mig 29 jaguars mki's like this o_O only because we are happy with it :/ i mean no matter what you say we have to make it a fighter which can compete against the fighters of today and tommorow ...

hmmm let me guess "world and my analysis" i m not saying its not a good aircraft its good no doubt about it but its good in its own way you can't compare it with the 4.5 gen jets of todays world as i said it is reliable and cheap but not as Advanced and lethal as a 4.5 gen jet ....... e.g...

Does any one know that if there would be any change in the airframe of JFT blck 3 ?? and will it be made with the same motto cheap and reliable ? or PAF would go for advanced and lethal ??

yea and IRAN is making 5th gen jets (copies of f-5) 4th gen tanks (armata was an export version of your tanks) right ??? don't derail this thread into PAK vs IRAN plz ....

LOL wet dreams Bangladesh was a totally different story massive rebillion no land route and an enemy in between the 2 states there was no way the event which took place could be stopped with or without RAW it could have been an easy target for anyone:coffee: NOW THATS NOT THE CASE FOR...