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Yes. Army Air Defence has been considered a true fighting arm for nearly 2 decades.

If they are filled with Babar II/Harbah then then cost will reduce as that is domestically produced.

All of them, except Leghari.

No. That’s an Army practice, **not** the law. The constitution gives the President and the Federal Government absolute power to appoint whomsoever they want as Army Chief. http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/constitution/part12.ch2.html See Article 243 Judges have absolute security of office...

It isn’t

She met him. The military chiefs are protocol wise, at least, all a tier below cabinet level, except Chairman JCSC. Same as Sherman. Her meeting Bajwa is fine. And while we are at it, every foreign dignitary who comes to Pakistan needs the FO permission to meet any functionary.

Thats......whats happened.

Contradicting itself.

The level of discourse on Defence.pk these days makes me long for the high minded exchange of views on the PDF of old. She barked. So? We have heard all this before.

It wasn't just Air Force. The 1987 deployment and the 1990 Exercise Zarb-e-Momin had illustrated the gap in AD coverage for ground units. One of the reasons AD was split off from Artillery and AD COM stood up in early 1991. They also attempted to expand AD by buying iHAWK and Patriot missiles...

Very little has been publically declared about it. All that is includes i) it exists and ii) its a MALE. OSINT account on Twitter has occasionally shown it in operation.

We need our own MILSAT network and until we have our own boosters, yeah we will struggle.

None, none and I grew up with Pak Army Air Defence officers.. (PAA is Army Aviation which is a seperate Arm).

I really thought deeply, before I wrote this Reply. Since you sound like an obnoxious teenager who memorises stuff from Brochures and then uses those in arguments. But I can’t be too mad, I used to be one, going back to the PDF days 20 years ago. Makes me cringe as I enter middle age. Lets deal...

Different class. Which is why we have been using the IL-78 Tankers for the purpose.... wait. :hitwall: We absolutely need a squadron as part of our support of Allied militaries.

Better than the current, which is no platforms, except those on paper and those that do exist are falling apart.

BBC report. Shahpar II wasn't even publically announced until long after it was flying. Burraq was not after 3 years. Shahpar II has performance approaching (though not mathcing) that of a Reaper.

It is.

This Talib CDR has a severe cuckold fantasy.

Original Shahpar isn't. Shahpar II is.