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Attack submarines are indeed under construction in Khi. Since the original AIP is unlikely to be available, something has to be used. There is some rumours online that they are using a locally designed nuclear plant instead. As I said, rumours. We will find out when the vessel launches, most...

Missiles are becoming bigger. While the exact dimensions of the P282 aren't known (or that of SMASH) beyond s certain point you cannot really have those missiles on a smaller hull, which is why the newer Burkes and the Type 055 are cruiser sized these days. I suspect the Jinnah class will near...

That is possibly the silliest thing I have read. The pur[pose of a Navy isn't to guard the coast. It's to defend Sea Lines of Communication and deny them to the enemy. 97% of our trade is sea bourne. Important SLOCS to the Gulf, Far East, the Suez and the East Coast of Africa. All but the...

Add 5 years if the F22 and JSF program is any indication. But we seem to finally be returning to 60's and 70's. when sometime multiple generation aircraft were in production at the same time

The Russians are in completely different situation. There tactical airpower has been badly blunted due to massive support from the west. We aren't likely to ever be in the same predicament. \We will either fight COIN/IS duty like the last fifteen years or will be fighting a Nuclear armed near...

Far less effective though. And aircraft can be used again and again

We have a fucking airforce to carry out such strikes. Plus long range arty. Its impressive. Most impressive and resourceful. But not a technology we have need for, yet.

Maps are rather useful. https://geography.name/arabian-sea/

**Sighs**. Tell me, do you enjoy been a rude dick? Also you @dBSPL The problem with narrow shallow waters v deep ocean isn't that the submarine can dive to near the bottom they can't. But: Conversely operating in deep ocean waters has its own challenges which are different. A submarine...

Average depth Agenan Sea 200 meters. Average depth Arabian sea 3000m.

Its still open waters. Not narrow. like the stuff its designed for. Better to base it on an enlarged X Class. It still open ocean.

Zero chance. Designed for the narrow waters of the Black Sea and Mediterranean versus the open ocean we face.

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4 aircraft, which needed, **checks notes** 3 tankers and **checks notes again** 4 support aircraft. Congratulations. PAF will soon demonstrate its ability to attack Europe and North America. A whole squadron of Thunders supported by every tanker we have will take off to attack. I mean the...

First thing Sanaullah has said that isn't bat shit insane.

We make smartphones now. In the 2000's when home appliances started being locally manufactured, suddenly every idiot had a TV, a washing machine a fridge and a microwave. Nowadays, everyone has a smartphone and a fucking internet connection. Like the 2000's Aunties who were shocked that their...

**** the TTP. That said, why did they allow this to happen, Who screwed up. @PanzerKiel

Well done neutrals. Well done. Well done

70,000 is a BS number. Unless they are doing some creative accounting.

It has always been petty inter services rivalry. Plus a cultural thing. The PA is willing to accept lower quality stuff if it means they can have gaurenteed access to the system and it’s support. The PAF isn’t. Example the Shaheen missile system, its testing problems were legion, that tge PAF...