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    Turkish heavy class attack helicopter (10t) will be most capable one in Middle East and Europe

    Turkish Folks never cease to amaze me...first it was the TFX and now ATAK 2....so proud of you guys....Congratulations
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Thats the famous Centaurus
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    Uzma, we stand guilty of murder

    Professor being handcuffed even after his death and disgusting treatment metted out to the poor maids makes my belief even stronger that Pakistan was made only for the Rich and the Powerful....the Poor and middleclass dont have any right to live in it...they will be quashed like roaches and...
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    Nawaz Sharif Refuse PTI Offer/Deal to Go London for Treatment: Nabeel Gabol

    It is not about how much they are willing to pay....whatever amount is recovered from them, the establishment must make sure that these corrupt families do not get another chance to loot the treasury...they must be exiled from the country never to return
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    Hussain haqqani and indian coas bipin

    Qasoor humara hai....we should've taken care of him when he was in Pakistan during the memogate scandal....we let him free and here he is fraternizing with the enemy...
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    Duas required for my Nani (Grandmother)

    Allah Taala aapki nani ko sehat e kaamila Ataaaa farmaye.....Aameen
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    Musharaf is severely ill may die soon

    First off am 2 years older than you....secondly i just stated my opinion...i didnt want to get into a debate with anyone...if you think musharraf was good then fine...i dont have any problem with that but you cannot enforce your opinion on others...
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    Musharaf is severely ill may die soon

    Well for starters what about Ayub Khan....
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    Musharaf is severely ill may die soon

    It is because of the reasons that you quoted, people like me believe musharraf did more harm than good to this country
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    Should China Pakistan put forward JF-17 Block 3 in Finland fighter plane competition?

    Just a tiny little problem.....we dont have a working prototype to show them how good our product really is...
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    Pakistan-US joint air exercise - Falcon Talon III

    John McCain too visited Pakistan you know before he died....and did that make any diiference militarily...dont think so...
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    Govt abolishes subsidy on Hajj

    I dont think i am being completely understood here so let me try this one more time in a diiferent way.... As the case is with electricity and gas bills which are collected from the people on the basis of the units that they consume why doesnt the Govt divide the people going for Hajj on the...
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    Govt abolishes subsidy on Hajj

    of course it is between Man and God....i was merely pointing out that by providing subsidy the Govt was facilitating the Poor to complete their religious obligation which sadly isnt the case anymore....
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    Pakistan-US joint air exercise - Falcon Talon III

    I donno man...apart from the exercise i dont see any positive vibes on the diplomatic front...
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    Pakistan-US joint air exercise - Falcon Talon III

    That is what i am saying....relationship with the US is not exactly friendly right now but who knows things might change once we get a new president at the white house
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    Pakistan-US joint air exercise - Falcon Talon III

    Had it been that easy we would have completed our transaction on the second batch of used F16's from Jordan...
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    Govt abolishes subsidy on Hajj

    Think of it the other way....the subsidy made it a little easy for the poor to go for Hajj....It is getting real difficult to complete your religious obligations as time moves on...
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    Pakistan Banao certificates

    Aur kitna safed karenge Sir....Income tax amnesty ne sab choron ko dho k saaf kar diya hai...aur hum jaisay imaandar log achay bachon ki tarah har jaga tax bhartay reh gaye....
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    Pakistan Banao certificates

    Kya faida Sir....Ghar ka dollar Ghar main hi reh jayega....Handsome ko is Waqt Dollars bahar se chahiye jo hum nahi de saktay
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