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Obviously they have different jurisdictions. However, historically, so long as Jinnah was alive, he had almost complete authority. So it might very much be likely as some people say that Asad’s department was set up with his blessing. Certainly, the core ML leadership certainly ended the...

They were separate entities but Jinnah had purview to interfere in state matters and he did- like when he intervened in Punjab when he wanted to- like in the inheritance bill. I can go back and see if Ansari or someone else details in his account explicitly whether this was official state...

The story goes as I have said in other threads that Jinnah had set up Usmani to take input from ulema for the task. I suppose I might stop clinging to Pakistan possibly. Give up on it. Yup I believe so too. But wanted to document everything clearly as well.

I mean this is somewhat true.

Hamidullah’s biographers mention his participation in 1948 and also in the thesis document I provided, it says that he was offered to stay in the govt house but he declined because he wanted to serve Pakistan. If Hamidullah was indeed invited on a person invitation by Usmani, it is unthinkable...

100 years after Iqbal, I still read him and am mesmerized by his poetry. I also read of Jinnah’s speeches and his works and am stunned by his foresight. So on the one hand, what Jinnah and Iqbal wanted does matter to me. But on the other hand, in a country of whose future we are unsure...

Wait what do you mean by govt of Pakistan. Does West Punjab not fall under the govt of Pakistan? Do you think that Jinnah did not have almost complete authority to close down departments if he so wanted? Also, frankly, this doesn’t diminish my point about the absolutely poor state of the...

It depends on the type of ulema. But before we can even start going there, we actually need to ascertain and make up our minds of the historical facts surrounding whether they were called. Only after we prove that this happened, can we prove that, in fact, these ulema were actually fairly...

Hmm, curious I provided a translation of the radio interview in English and the original audio file too. Translation has a word in brackets you are building a faulty argument on if we you listen to the audio. I’m not sure what you mean by 1949. The narrative clearly places the work of this...

The constituent assembly has sub committees that relate to the constituent assembly itself. Not of all parliamentary party committees and sub-committees. Nope listen to the urdu, he doesn’t say anything of the sort. The word “formally” that you are clinging to is in brackets. All it means is...

The constituent assembly archives are not going to contain sub-committees of the ML. Primary sources do include first hand testimony. The primary sources indicate that the committee seems to have been formed with the blessing of Jinnah and involved inviting international scholars of repute to...

@El Sidd @SaadH @Jango @M. Sarmad @VCheng @Sayfullah @Dalit Brothers I’m still interviewing this week but would love critical feedback and would really love help in exploring other themes on the master thread of this...

Finally, on the question of Zafarullah’s role in the constitution process in 1948. I don’t find much direct primary source evidence to support his involvement- the closest I find is in Begum Shahnawaz’s pronouncement of his and Nishtars role in framing the objectives resolution. This is...

Third, we have the curious case of the department of Islamic reconstruction lead by Muhammad Asad. We don’t seem to have much in the way of government documents detailing why it was formed or it’s official work except for what seems to be three key pieces of documents. First we have the govt...

Secondly, in this backdrop of ulema meeting at Usmani’s residence, we have to ask the obvious, what was Jinnahs role in all of this? Why would the ulema be meeting (early to mid 1948) to make proposals to ensure an Islamic nature of the constitution without his input? Luckily, we don’t really...

Do you mind opening up a seperate thread to explore this theme and link it here. I.e. what Iqbal wanted Also we are going to discuss what Jinnah wanted as well in the other thread, but I felt it might make sense to break up what he wanted based on his actions in different periods of his life...

@M. Sarmad First, let’s talk about the committee headed by Usmani to advise on the constitution in 1948. This committee is not to be confused with the BPC committee that was formed after the objectives resolution passed in 1949. We are talking about a committee of scholars headed by Usmani that...

This thread will discuss the above. This is related to this thread here. https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/historical-evidences-for-the-arguments-as-to-what-sort-of-pakistan-the-founding-fathers-wanted.768690/ These are the rules for this thread:- 1) we want to quote only primary sources. If...

The first stream I wanted to open up was with regards to after the creation of Pakistan and their engagement in advising on the Islamic nature of the state...

Guys sorry for my absence here- I was going through interviews and actually even this week am going through team match interviews. I really did want to present the evidence for the arguments I have presented here but I think it might make most sense to move it to a seperate post - which I have...