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  1. toxic_pus

    The atrocities in the 1971 civil war

    Actually India kept a record of the refugees for an extended period of time. Although, I would admit that once the flow swelled into tens of thousands per day, keeping of record became impossible. Also, there were Red Cross teams as well as UN teams at these refugee camps. In May, the recorded...
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    The atrocities in the 1971 civil war

    That was not my argument. But genocide, all the same. It is irrelevant how the victims are identified - by their ethnicity or their religion. A group of innocent people (Hindus) were killed by another group (the State of Pakistan), systematically, because of being something that the State...
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    The atrocities in the 1971 civil war

    As I said, the numbers matter little to establish the fact of intent. That PA ran an extermination camp at Hariharpara is now a fact. There were others, but we will leave it at that. As with the numbers, well, it is hard to count the corpeses which have been disposed off by dumping into the...
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    The atrocities in the 1971 civil war

    Here is one example of PA run extermination camp at Hariharpara, near Dhaka. The report is by Lewis M. Simons for Washington Post and appeared on 10th Jan, 1972, shortly after the end of the war. (Click on the images to enlarge) PS: I didn't scan the images. I had downloaded a...
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    The atrocities in the 1971 civil war

    The 10,000,000 figure is an approximate cumulative figure for the refugees that poured into India right till the official war. And Indian 'intervention' refers to the actual war. Nobody, who has read up on the events of 1971, claim that India created Mukti Bahini after 10 million refugees had...
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    The atrocities in the 1971 civil war

    So? My response was very specific and was meant to point out the blatant lie that PA didn't commit genocide. They did, in every sense of the legal definition and worse. In fact, you have confirmed once again what Gregory H. Stanton had pointed out, 'DENIAL is the eighth stage that always...
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    The atrocities in the 1971 civil war

    And the point is what, exactly. You do realise, don't you, that Indian's involvement in 1971 is not exactly a secret. BTW, The Bangladesh Govt-in-exile was officially formed on 17th March, 1971 with MAG Osmani as commander of Mukti Bahini. That was when the Mukti Bahinis officially came into...
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    The atrocities in the 1971 civil war

    Thanks for clarifying the image. I am myself guilty of using it, what appears now, in a wrong manner. You are correct that technically, and only technically, the en mass slaughter of Bengalis don't fall under the specific definition of Genocide [Article II, Genocide Convention, 1948] and so...
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    India rejected separate Sikh Marriage Act which Pak enacted 4 yrs ago

    That he is by and large misinformed. There is nothing in the 'Hindu Marriage Act' that is prejudicial to the Sikhs or Buddhists or Jains. The only problem seems to be the name of the Act and surely it can be changed to something non-religious and wherever the word 'Hindu' has been used as a...
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    "They go by the name Talib, but we know they come from ISI"

    With suitable changes, this might as well be an Indian speaking about Pakistan. Now what is it that they say about things that go around? Oh yeah, they have a nasty way of coming around and sneaking up from behind.
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    How many sabres were captured?

    SIPRI says your data (taken from a Pakistani website) is wrong: Two batches of Mirage 5s were ordered between 1960 and 1980 (the period to which the data above relates). The first batch was delivered between 1971 and 1972 and 2nd batch between 1980 and 1983. No Mirage 5 was delivered...
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    How many sabres were captured?

    Here is an interesting data, from SIPRI. 24 Migare IIIIs were ordered in 1967 and all of these were received in 1968. 30 Mirage 5s were again ordered in 1970 and curiously, at least some of those were received in 1971. IIRC, France had imposed an embargo on Pakistan right before the war...
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    India has no desire to wage war

    No. Those are meant to combat a certain nation which has a habit of starting wars, willy-nilly. Those are incentives to that certain nation to be rational.
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    Anna Hazare wins, Parliament passes resolution on Lokpal Bill

    Eh. The letter talks of resolution all right, but resolutions end in voting. Govt. cleverly ensured that there was not voting but 'thumping of desk'. Technically it fell short of being a resolution. Parliamentary record will not show it as 'resolution'. But I can see how you chose to respond to...
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    Anna Hazare wins, Parliament passes resolution on Lokpal Bill

    Just a thought. The current fast started with three demands: 1. JLP must be passed by the Parliament, without any amendments. 2. The Bill must not be sent to the Parliamentary Committee 3. The Bill must be passed at the earliest but not after 30th August. After all the drama, what happened...
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    Anna Hazare wins, Parliament passes resolution on Lokpal Bill

    While it is true that Standing Committee's recommendations are not binding on the Parliament, there are ten thousand ways to delay the Standing Committee report from being tabled. Good for ya. :tup:
  17. toxic_pus

    Anna Hazare wins, Parliament passes resolution on Lokpal Bill

    Right genius. You read the pamphlet and I read the draft acts - section by section, clause by clause.
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    Anna Hazare wins, Parliament passes resolution on Lokpal Bill

    Right. Can you please give me a tour of rest of this fantastic world you live in. At one point in time I had to interact with the effing Income Tax dept. and later the effing Sales Tax dept. on daily effing basis. I know the effing ins, outs and everything in between, about how the effing...
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    Anna Hazare wins, Parliament passes resolution on Lokpal Bill

    Fixed the link. For people like you, there is a word in Oxford Dictionary. It is called 'naivete'. Look it up. Corruption is not a legal problem that it can be fixed by having more laws. It is a social problem. Some of the most 'honest' nations don't have nearly as many laws as we in India have.
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    Anna Hazare wins, Parliament passes resolution on Lokpal Bill

    As I said earlier, the fuel for Anna's movement is ignorance. The Standing Committee (on Personnel, Public Grievances and Law and Justice), to which the resolution has been forwarded and which is already considering the Lokpal Bill (not Janlokpal Bill) currently consists of 25 members with 13...
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