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    Myth shatterd "india won 65 war?"

    We people have nothing to do and you have the burden of whole Pakistan on your shoulders or so it seems. Btw you seem to like the arm pit music too much. Why dont you make some of your own and listen to it everytime you are browsing this forum. It will remind you of your wonderful...
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    Israel Could Find Itself Forced To Wipe Out Europe

    Thats like brainwash of the highest order... When did Hitler let any jews go... huh? And damn Jews wouldnt have to be cruel to their enemy had Hitler let them live in peace. I really find it disgusting to see people here are so much anti-jew that they will side with the worst killers of...
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    A soldier's emotional journey

    It happens only in INDIA :victory::smitten: Well what more can we say, the story says the rest. This is my India , India that we dream of , a society which is forgiving and benovelent . I hope for more soilders and citizens of the same ilk. May god bless India & the world
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Agreed. But we can run Monte Carlo simulations thousands of time. If an analyst cant do then a computer will :P. Just tell me all the variables involved. ( atleast for whom we can have a defined confidence interval ) Just joking bro, though a real level analysis is very much a possibility I...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Dude the thread is purely for analysis and nothing else. There aint a need for anyone to vent out their frustrations and emotions. Given a scenario how will the two sides respond. This is my simple question. I put forth my thesis and others are free to debate . But what I see is that people are...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    As I said why do you think Pakistan will go nuclear if we occupy a disputed land. And by occupying that land we will have a permanent solution to the terrorist problem. Again I want to stress I am not talking about any surgical strikes or blowing up infrastructure. If need be then India has to...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    No surgical strikes at all.. None needed... If need be we must occupy Pakistan occupied Kashmir and lay those terrorists to rest once and forever. As I said surgical strikes are a waste of time and money as terrorists will return back, this time making their camps in caves etc. The only...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Bhai ji It will definitely serve the purpose. Once we have the evidence that these terrorist camps are on Pakistan's sovereign territory and not some disputed one the whole world will stand with us and preassurise Pakistan to get rid of this kind of infrastructure. My thoughts about occupying...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Deployment of SAM batteries is all but a passive defensive manuever , SAM's can be easily circumvented if not defeated. Also I am not aware if Pakistan has so many SAM's that they can plug the entire region and have no gaps for adversary to seep through. I think that will be a highly improbable...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Thanks Jana. I had a hearty laugh esp at the lines: So there is no question of Indian striking any terror camp as there none. It would be a war against an independent country. I must say Good Show Good Show :rofl::rofl: And be sure this day dreaming of yours will result in so much pain for...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Bhai ji no offense meant but this is a very standard tactic to break the lock of a missile. There are many more subtle tactics and PAF and IAF pilots will be very well aware of them. But when a SU-30 will launch 2 or 3 missiles (ripple fire) then the probability of the kill goes up. Also there...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Emotional kyun ho rahe ho dost... Lets just try and analyze the situation from India's and Pakistan's POV. That is it. Who wants war but well we can analyze a hypothetical scenario nonetheless.
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Ahem ahem.. sir just one small mishtake in your understanding maybe.. I am using Cold Start only till the deployment level and not at the execution level. I am not saying that IA will be thrusting in Pakistan attacking their armor etc etc. Far from it, they will be deployed in a defensive...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Absolutely , no need to reply to me but I wonder why are you harping here when you could have sent Imran a PM. And yes I am a 9th /10th student and you are a new born baby. Such Great Logic LufftWAFFER :P:cheers:
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    I did read all those, just that I didnt get into the specific details of how far(in kms) is gilgit from srinagar and what all routes can the IA take etc etc. I am no defense person you see , I am hoping that some enlightened souls here will apprise me of the landscape and logistics situation (...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Sir ji training is one thing and flying one sortie after the another every second day of the month and every month of the year is different. Its good that PAF had its 200 pilots trained but how many hours would have they logged in total? Not a lot you see. There are no substitutes to hands on...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    I am all ears about your outlook on the map. Care to explain in detail? Cold start is the answer to rapid deployment.
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Sir just one question: Where was PA for the last 15 years ? Terrorists have existed in Pakistan held kashmir for over 15 years now and still your armed forces did nothing about them, instead your armed forces did a KARGIL on us. Today if your forces are fighting terrorists then its because...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Arey yaar WAR is not good and should never be fought but the sad reality is that in some cases it is unavoidable. Well lets just say that this thread is about just analyzing a war scenario rather than pelting stones at each other. Dont bring rhetoric into it and keep the discussion logical...
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    War Scenario : India attacks Terrorist Camps In Pak-Occ-Kashmir

    Arey bhai its not about underestimating anyone and certainly I dont underestimate anybody let alone an adversary. That is why time and again I am stressing on three crucial factors necessary which are surprise , speed and firepower. With most of PA deployed against the IA over the length of...
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