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The problem with pakistan its got too many racial groups in it. Two nation was not a good idea, it was a bad idea, as originally Afghanistan stretched up to river jehlum, and onward was what was called hindustan. So separation should have been any land north of river jehlum was to be handed to...

Well what does it all mean in simple english? Does it mean that there is going to be a delay to initial batch that is being started, the chinese engine is a few years away, so where does this leave paf?. Also if pakistan is going to manufacture 60/70 percent of the aircraft, does that...

Well thxs for your reply, but that still doesnt tell me what detection range for the klj-7 radar is, the first batch will be using this radar. We already have 8 jf17 and hope to have another 8 by the end of the year, so that takes us to 16 and from 2009 we will be rolling out 20/25 a year. So...

Does anyone have any reliable info on jf17's radar, like whats the detection range etc and is it klj-7 0r klj-10 radar?. Lots of comfusing articles on the net.

I believe so too, its a dream come true for pakistan. As the plane is more tested an engaged with other planes such as f16 etc. It will give paf a good understanding of the plane and also how they can make improvements for the future batches.

Not exactly, you see i agree with yiu on corruption, no jobs and stability, but the hope is there. We want a revolution that riddens pakistan of dictatorship, a moderate goverment in place that rescpects all ethnic groups and religions. Strong law and order and justice for all, islam is our...

That is wrongful thinking, We don't need to move towards russia and have a very close relationship with them, for that we have china, but we need to have a better relationship with iran and that will mostly solve the problems in Afghanistan. Iran has good influence in northern Afghanistan and...

I couldnt agree with you any more, right now paf should modernise its self but with pakistani budget, we are not a rich nation and jf17 is a decent palne that will give the local engineers, technicians vital experience in the technology used in jf17 and how it can be improved. Once experience...

Well thats a matter of opinion, but if that is the case then why separatist in balochistan and sarhad and sindh, and please please dont be blinded and blame external elements. I do understand and know that there are foreign elements involved but ultimately the decisons are made by local...

Well that referendum was held more them 60 years ago, since then alot has changed. People at the time thought they were joining a federation that would bring change to their lives, eliminate hunger and bring prosperity and rule of law. but in 60 years that has not happened obviously people...

By the way america controls the world, but there was a radio interview of israeli prime minister who said we control the finances and america knows we control it something along them lines not sure word for word.

Well jews are not the people run israel, ordinary jews want nothing but peace and stability in Israel with Palestinians. The state in a Zionist state which has a different ideology from the jewsih people. Israel feels threatened by its neighbors, and rightly so there have been many wars but...

wow sorry dude if i upset you, but i meant devolution as in how uk works but guess u just got it wrong or me said it wrong. Like i said no offence if i upset u, but you dont need to get vicious and nasty, inlife if we all agreed with each other life wouldnt be worth living.

Bang on on the buck, brother from another mother.

Well israel wants to portray this image of islamic extremism every where, they want to create this fear and paranoia so everyones attention will be diverted by their actions in palestine. They clearly are building new settlements and the controversial wall they are building to divide palestine...

You are absolutely right i dont speak for all pushtoons nor does she, but i am putting a case forward for a referendum a free and fair referendum where people of nwfp and balochistan can vote to say wethere they still wish to be part of pakistan or want their own independence. Thats for...

Comeon you are a reasonabale person, but atleast have the balls to speak the truth and what you feel. Are you telling me musharrif is not a fix, him from start to finish has all been setup. Him removing judges that were going to deliver a fair verdict that fell against musharrif. Would you...

Well i trust you are a pounjabis hay, he he he that kind of gave it away, well if only sindhis are on her side why was there protests in nwfp balochistan and punjab? Well am waiting for your clueless explanation.

As i said its good to mourn a traitor who was publics choice rather then to mourn a military dictator that we have.

Well if that is the case, it is good to mourn a democratic and people choice traitor, rather then a patriotic dictator that we have.