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Not to troll you. I am an Indian. I understand India much much better, and hence I believe Indian version. However, I do believe PAF came out very well on that morning. I.e. PAF was better than IAF on that morning. PS: IAF did not have to use an imaginary kill to "brag". We know that PAF was...

Per the then IAF chief, IAF has a confirmation of a fallen f-16. However, they are not sure if it is due to abhinandan or a SAM. Since, abhinandan is in that area, he is given the credit. You can search YouTube for that interview. Note that even abhinandan did not claim the kill himself. I...

You wrote that your brother confirmed to you that there is no F-16 kill. Can you also let us know if your brother confirmed that a su-30 fell on that day and both pilots lost their lives? PS: I am asking this question as I want to know if your brother said that about su-30?

@SQ8 - this message is being written with positive intent and not intention to troll. after our last "discussion" on the reasons for your banning a certain Indian pdfer, I thought I will never vist pdf again.....and did not visit pdf for sometime. But then, my thoughts needed some distraction...

Thank you for the response. Now, I know what you think of me (& most Indians). I know where I stand now. Among many Pakistanis, you are one of the two that I really respect (the other being @MastanKhan . Long back, @MastanKhan used to post beautiful messages. Not so much in the recent past)...

You deleted my post where I was asking why @Osiris is banned? You did not inform that my post is deleted? You read other posts (extremely anti-india) in this thread? Aren't they distasteful? @Osiris' was asking questions....yet, you banned him, while keeping all the people behind distasteful...

One sensible post. In addition to what you mentioned, aircraft sourced from USSR are always inferior to US weapons (with great exception of few like mig-21). Agree? PS: happy with your post, as you did repeat usual nonsense that goes along "why IAF pilots are worse that PAF pilots".

As Chinese you don't have to worry, China will take what it wants. India will not be able to match China.

Yes, he should not run away. Come what may, he must stay put. That is a life worth living. All afghan leaders must stay put. Even during desperate times of WWII, king of UK stay put.

You expect him to say that everything is lost?

Reminds me of the dialog that the character played by Mel Gibson uses to motivate troops to fight the English in movie "brave heart"....exact opposite to what these "soldiers" are doing....

If pak can achieve this then (a) pak leadership may be counted as one of the best that ever existed. On par with the greatest ever existed. (b) American leadership is the most stupid & dumb that has ever existed. No sense of shame / spine for American leadership. English language must invent new...