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Oh please! As if he cared about what the people said (or what I say for that matter!). He was all too happy arresting 4,500 people in his emergency, sacking 60 judges of the superior judiciary, getting himself re-elected for a fresh term from a senate whose tenure was a few weeks short of ending...

Completely misrepresented my argument. I said he let them back. The people voted them in. But this only became possible because Mush let them in. Wake up sleepy head, they would not have been voted in from the UK. Just rhetoric. Come up with FACTS. Ditto.

Zaid Hamid has NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER with Jinnah. Jinnah was a great man who believed in democratic norms, honesty, dignity and honour. And I agree, he was secular. His speeches are very much supportive of that fact. Zaid Hamid has too much hate to ever uphold such values.

And this is the speech that Yussuf Kazzab introduced 'Syed Zaid Zaman' as a sahabi (Nauzubillah). Also listen closely from 6:40 to 6:45, that is where Yussuf makes the ultimate blasphemous statement. Following this, is a man alleged to be Zaid Hamid, sounds the same, same style of speech, same...

If the government did not allow him, then it was probably illegal for him to present the resolution. Furthermore, there is a difference between him not appearing (which may be voluntarily done by him) and him being barred (officially by the government, in which case, it would be public...

Couldn't agree more. 60+ years of intense rivalry, war, bloodshed, depressed economic progress and so much more on both sides of the border. Is "sharmindagi" (or in other words ego) really worth it? It saddens me to think how much more we could have been. Who knows, we may have even become the...

Haha! Thanks for the heads up! Wait till they hear that I am a pure-bred Pakistani Muslim. :rofl:

Cheers for your kind remarks buddy! And I agree! There is a real need to educate people so that they 'think'. The lack of education in our part of the world means that there are a lot of highly impressionable minds who don't know any better. I was, at one point an admirer of Zaid Hamid (very...

IK had one seat. And I am against JI anyway, they are a bunch of illiterates who, as part of the MMA, made the NWFP a war zone with their sympathy for extremist elements. Firstly, a lame attempt to change the topic. The point was that Musharraf signed the NRO and HE was the one in power...

Najam Sethi is good.. he just won an award for independent journalism recently as well. His neutral stance on things makes him worth listening to. Sadly, there is too much emotion, drama and sensationalism on both sides of the border. We need more people who think like him to have peace between...

lol.. no vote bank but they still somehow matter? you are beyond redeemable my friend. 'The giver and taker of bribe will both go to hell.' In this case your mr. amazingly awesome godly man was the one who SIGNED the NRO. lol.. very amusing how you routinely look at only one side and paint the...

He did and it was absolutely wrong. But in this case, 'der ayay durust ayay' (better late than never). What was the justification of a 'sacked' general (yes he was sacked by his commander and chief - NS) taking over the entire government for some 8 odd years, and then issuing the said NRO...

As far as I can remember, when he came into power, he had to make his own 'King's Party' of the pml-q lot. So the argument that everyone supported him is not incorrect. Secondly, when you are against an army general, and as we have seen in the past, it is their way or the highway, which is the...

errrmmm.. what were you refuting then? And I wasn't suggesting any "ZH Type Conspiracy Theories", this is all apparently in YOUR Ram Pradhan Commission Report.

Kasab and his terrorist buddy. BUT. My friend, it is not just enough to look at things simplistically. You have to see the chain of causation. Had these terrorists been dealt with in the appropriate manner, Karkare, Kamte etc. would still be alive, not to mention scores of other victims of...

Sorry to disappoint but your branding me as a conspiracy theorist wont make me shut up and stop questioning. If I see holes, I will flag them. If India were running such a large operation from within Afghanistan, surely NATO & ISAF must know about it unless they are totally incompetent. Based...

Imran got this slightly wrong. First off, us i.e. the 'westernised elite' aka anyone going for secularism in the public domain, are assumed to be aethiests without proper knowledge of Islam. This is highly speculative and I do not think Imran is qualified enough to judge anyone's grasp on Islam...

One small question. Does legitimacy and legality not matter? Is democracy only good enough when it meets OUR goals? Musharraf came through acts that are defined as 'High Treason' in our constitution. And yes, I know I sound like an 'unrealistic intellectual idealist' or whatever. But, I believe...

Of course nobody is perfect. But there is GOOD and BAD. NRO, Steel Mill Corruption, Other Corrupt Privatisation, Misused Aid, Treason etc. = Bad. As for the media argument, it is quite weak. Next you are going to tell me Musharraf gave us internet. There is something called 'technological...